Love versus Sex

[kented]

I'm fluent in Spanish, visited Colombia twice, Costa Rica about ten times before livng there for seven months and been married to two Latinas.  It is still anazing how much of the Latin culture I am only begining to understand.  

In the USA prostitutes are criminals, often drug addicts who are desperate to take the legal risks with the wealth of other opportunities available to people willing to work here.  

In Costa Rica, in 1999 51% of the births were to unmarried parents and 31% didn't even name the father ( a fairly safe indication that the father was not going to contribute to the support of his child).  Jobs that pay well are scarce.  

I had the impression, which is purely anctedotal, that Latin hookers are a more normal crossection of the general female population than they are here.  A girl can work in a shop and earn $75 a week or she can work selling sex.  In the Tico brotherals she has sex ten times to earn that in a day.  In the tourist spots, she pretends to be your girlfrind, has sex one time and earns that in a day.  Some hookers have legitimate jobs and work several times a week.  Most are single mothers.

In Latin America many non professionals have several "boyfriend" who give them lots of gifts.  My ex wife once told me that not woman would have sex with a man unless there was something in it for her.  She was obviously cynical from her failed marriage but she isn't 100% wrong either.  

Truly the biggest drawback to hookers is that their clients are such scum that they couldn't possibly think good things about men.  The availability of prostitution and the acceptance of extramarital sex gives a different perspective to sex.  Many non professionals have sex to gain something and it makes it hard for us to understand what is happening.  I love Latinas and I met better people in the brotherals than I have in the US.  

No major conclusion, just random observations.

Kented

[Pete E]

... in response to Love versus Sex, posted by kented on Apr 14, 2004

OK,this thread reminded me of a joke.
A rich guy meets a beautifull girl at a party.He asks her,"would you have sex with me for $1,000,000 ?" She thinks about it for awhile,all she could do with the money and says "yes I would".
He says "now that we know what you are,lets get more serious about the price."

Pete

[Phoenix]

... in response to Love versus Sex, posted by kented on Apr 14, 2004

Kented stated:
"I love Latinas and I met better people in the brotherals than I have in the US."

Does anyone know of a man who went to Latin America and married a prostitute?  Was the marriage a success?

I was in Santo Domingo recently and went to a bar that looked like a legitimate place.  Turns out the women there were working girls.  Some of them were so genuinely nice that if they had been anything other than prostitutes, I could have married any one of several of them on the spot.  

Is it possible to turn a prostitute into a good wife?  I know it's not advisable, but is it possible?

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Love versus Sex, posted by Phoenix on Apr 15, 2004

There in the business to be nice, you really can't attach any significance beyond that.  I've met waitresses who can turn on the charm and almost make you think they have an interest in you but it's not real.  It's all about the tips.

If someone marries a hooker and it works out, great,  I'm happy for them.  But the life of a prostitute is a tough one and I think you'd be living with a damaged person. Some guys like damaged women, it's like the little bird who flies into your window, you want to mend the birdy back to health.  

Stick to healthy women and your life will be much simpler.

[doombug]

... in response to Re: Love versus Sex, posted by Phoenix on Apr 15, 2004

I'm about to do that very thing---get married to a woman that I met in a strip club.

db

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Love versus Sex, posted by doombug on Apr 16, 2004

Strip club and prostitute are 2 very different things although alot of strip club girls do both.Some may just go for big $ offers.Probably all of them get the offers.

Pete

[burbuja2]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Love versus Sex, posted by Pete E on Apr 16, 2004

Yeah, in the US they are very different things. In LA, they are not.

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to C'Mon Petey, I Mean Pete E, posted by burbuja2 on Apr 16, 2004

Burbuja

In Dallas, they're not as different as they used to be.  There's a lot of sex going on in strip clubs today.

Steve

[burbuja2]

... in response to Re: C'Mon Petey, I Mean Pete E, posted by DallasSteve2 on Apr 17, 2004

I'm shocked and appalled.

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: C'Mon Petey, I Mean Pete E, posted by burbuja2 on Apr 17, 2004

I can't help it,I was thinking of the scene from Casablanca where the crooked French cop goes through the shocked and appaled statement just as they hand him his winnings.I couldn't help but vision a scene where the guy is putting it back in his pants and saying "I am shocked and appaled there is prostitution going on here."

Pete

[Locii]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Love versus Sex, posted by Pete E on Apr 16, 2004

I'm not sure a stripper and a prostitute are different things.  Depends on the club, so many any more or totally unhinged.

The real question a man needs to ask himself is....Are you interested/capable/prepared to spend your time with someone who has (or will continue) to rent their body out for viewing or whatever else for other men.  Generally I am not.  Most of the females I know of that ilk have generally made personality compromises long ago that make them incompatible with me.

The old adage... "you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl", is a pretty accurate assessment.

Ciao

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Love versus Sex, posted by Phoenix on Apr 15, 2004

Since Cali Vet is on vacation in the states and might not be following,I will tell the story of his friend that married a prostitute.
This guy,I think he was from Holland,fell for this prostitute in a small town an hour out of Cali.He married her.I'm not sure the timing of events but he decided to divorce her a couple years later.She charged him with child abuse,as in sex with children.I think CV thought him to be innocent and it a false charge,but the guy spent a year in jail over it.CV used to go visit him.He did get the divorce but still lives in the small town.
One of my roomates said girls working as hookers is like working at Burger King in the US its so common.
I think it would be a very bad bet.Maybe a girl that did it a few times out of desperation,but the ones doing it to live
alot better than if they had a job are demonstrating poor values I think.And they can get hardened by it.
Only other story I ever heard,a guy I worked with said his uncle married a prostitute.He said she wanted money or something special every time he wanted sex.
Similar to the other bads girls,they can have a story you could sympathise with but you better stear clear.

Pete

[WindyCity]

... in response to Marrying prostitutes, posted by Pete E on Apr 16, 2004

DallasSteve2 posted about how some of the girls at the agencies are "Pros", or "Semi-Pros". Well here's my personal experience on that very same topic.

My second time in Cali I stayed at a B&B/Agency called "Villa Princess" (Latin Internet.) A buddy and I went out one night to a "Casa" where I met this working girl who I had an awesome time with. Next morning, here I am at the Latin Internet office thumbing through their catalogs of girls when guess who's profile I saw...Yep, it was the same working girl from the night before posing as a sweet home girl from the country. I informed the agency about this and they told me they were going to kick her out of the agency.

That was about one year ago and everytime I log on to their web-site to check out any new girls, the girl in question is still on there. So, Steve is 100% correct. Some of these girls at the agencies are Pros, and if you can't call them out, you just may wind up marrying one!

Pete, I'll see you Saturday night! I'll chat with you guys from Cali!!

Luis

[WindyCity]

... in response to Marrying prostitutes, posted by Pete E on Apr 16, 2004

DallasSteve2 posted about how some of the girls at the agencies are "Pros", or "Semi-Pros". Well here's my personal experience on that very same topic.

My second time in Cali I stayed at a B&B/Agency called "Villa Princess" (Latin Internet.) A buddy and I went out one night to a "Casa" where I met this working girl who I had an awesome time with. Next morning, here I am at the Latin Internet office thumbing through their catalogs of girls when guess who's profile I saw...Yep, it was the same working girl from the night before posing as a sweet home girl from the country. I informed the agency about this and they told me they were going to kick her out of the agency.

That was about one year ago and everytime I log on to their web-site to check out any new girls, the girl in question is still on there. So, Steve is 100% correct. Some of these girls at the agencies are Pros, and if you can't call them out, you just may wind up marrying one!

Pete, I'll see you Saturday night! I'll chat with you guys from Cali!!

Luis

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Marrying prostitutes, posted by Pete E on Apr 16, 2004

[This message has been edited by DallasSteve2]

Pete

If a guy wants a pro, he should probably just pay by the hour and forget any long term commitments.  

Oops!  I accidentally erased my story.  

Discretion is the better part of valor.  Especially in a marriage.

Steve