My American Dating Journal

[Wayne1]

... in response to Re: Oscar, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

Oscar,

I never insulted you personally until now.  When I insult it is direct and not passive aggressive.  Like this...

You are a jerk with an anger management problem. You are nasty, mean and you hit below the belt.   You think you are an expert on RW but you don't know zhit  small, small man.  You don't know nothing till the girl gets off the plane you moron.  It is just a vacation until they actually get here.  Your 6 trips mean nothing.  So go ahead an be over confident, but please continue to post after the divorce when she finds out what a nasty little man you are.   It will be good reading I'm sure because she will chew you up and spit you out.  You are no match for one of these women.  And God help the poor child you are planning on bringing over.  What a great role model you are going to be.  

Hugs and kisses you azzwhole.

Wayne

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Re: Oscar, posted by Wayne1 on Aug 20, 2002

Well, I wondered when you would lose it you "mild mannered" little thang you! LOL! ;-)  My, you certainly can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you Wayne!  You say you "didn't insult me personally until now"  Yes you did Wayne, give it a rest, I don't react like this for no reason.  Again, you don't seem to recognize the tenor of what you write.. You tease, jab, belittle, condescend and then when someone doesn't BS around but hits you between the eyes with the truth, you collapse like a house of cards, just like most playground bullies..

Look loser (I will leave the obscenities to you, I don't need them to make my point), just because you had a horrible marriage with your RW doesn't mean they are ALL as bad as yours turned out to be.  Not all of the women there chew men up and spit them out (your words) like yours did you..  You say- "You are no match for one of these women."  Well, did I miss something here or weren't YOU the one who turned out to be "no match" for one of these women??  
You make me laugh..  I am supposed to take all this advice about RW from a guy who was "chewed up and spit out" as you say, who gave up and who is now married to a Latin woman??  Where do you get off?? (and no, I have no prejudices about Latin women or women from any other culture).

I am in no way "overconfident" about anything Wayne.  I feel great about my relationship and have no illusions about the challenges that lie ahead, as they do for any couple, but they won't be challenges that you are able to guide me on because you failed at them bud, so here's to you Wayne, the playground tease...
From your post-"I'll bet you were a really fun kid to tease when you were little. The kind that got so upset, you just couldn't resist teasing because it was so much fun to watch".

Not laughing now are you??  I asked you to let it go, but you had to keep taunting.. Kinda hurts when you end up facedown on that playground huh??  So now again, I will say to you, I think you should let it go Wayne... The Latin board is a great place for a man who is married (for how long this time?) to be...

Best of luck Wayne! ;-)

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Oscar, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

Oscar,
I think Wayne's comment was rather clever.  You are far too touchy about comments aimed at you and far too nasty with your comments directed toward others.  Your nasty attacks have been directed toward at least 3 or 4 different posters here.  Your M.O. has been the same: accuse the other poster of attacking you to justify your nastiness.
Dating and being married are worlds apart.  In my book, you are way off base in thinking that your "dates" equate to Wayne's marriage experience.  Wayne is right on with his observation of your possible future difficulties regarding your personality and a Russian woman.  You should listen to his advice.
KenC

[Oscar]

... in response to touchy, touchy , touchy, posted by KenC on Aug 20, 2002

Okay Ken, you have had your criticism, but why must you keep pushing it??  To think that because he is married automatically gives him the total advantage about every womans mind is silly..  He knows the mind of ONE LATIN, she's COLUMBIAN Ken, for crying out loud!  She is not representative of any women in the FSU!  That is like saying I have always lived in Oregon but you need to listen to me about Florida!  
And just being "married" on this board does not elevate one to "God" status Ken, you included.
I already told you that I appreciated your earlier comments but why do you insist now on beating it into the ground?  His initial comment to me WAS rude and uncalled for and if he were the type of man you seem to feel he is, he would admit that.
I will let your "nastiness" comments slide, because you got every bit as "nasty" as anyone here if you will recall Ken..

Try to let it go now..

[KenC]

... in response to Re: touchy, touchy , touchy, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

Oscar,
I have tried to be as diplomatic as possible with you, yet you still get irritated because we disagree.  Hmmm.  Just for the record, Wayne was married to a Russian gal previous to his current marriage.  If you cannot distinguish the SIGNIFICANT difference between dating and being married, I wish you a lot of luck in your marriage, as you will surely need it.
KenC

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Re: touchy, touchy , touchy, posted by KenC on Aug 20, 2002

Ken, I think you seem to be "irritated" with the fact that I just don't agree with you.  I know he WAS married to a Russian girl, but as I said in another post, I would prefer to think of taking advice from a man who has had a successful marriage with a woman from the FSU, not one who divorced and is now married to a woman from a completely different culture, Colombian.  So in your words, yes, I see a SIGNIFICANT difference between knowledge gained dating and being engaged to a failed marriage.. I will again, take the former to the latter.

Ken, you happen to think that saying something as offensive as "I wish you a lot of luck in your marriage, as you will surely need it." and "Wayne is right on with his observation of your possible future difficulties regarding your personality and a Russian woman." is diplomatic somehow..  I'm sorry, but it is not diplomatic, it is a lousy thing to say.
I think you really should spend more time worrying about your own marriage with it's 25 year age gap Ken, than worrying about and bashing my situation, don't you?  I am trying of course to be diplomatic..  

I really don't want to escalate things Ken, we have been through it all before and I thought we both would be able to keep it that way but if you insist, I will accomodate..  My best suggestion? Let it go..

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: touchy, touchy , touchy, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

n/t

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: touchy, touchy , touchy, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

Just for the record...

As I stated, Wayne was married to a Russian Woman before his current Latin wife.

Being married doesn't raise anyone to God status... you are right. You have to fly a Lear Jet to get that, apparently...

But don't assume that Wayne married the first woman he met, either.

He probably dated many women from the FSU and SOB, also...

I do agree that it is impossible to predict that someone will have "difficulty" in their marriage or not. Marriage takes two people, I have learned.

But this is one pissing contest that I, happily, am staying out of :-)

[Oscar]

... in response to Well, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 20, 2002

I don't "like" pissing contests anymore than do you..  But again, when I am treated rudely I respond.  I am happy to let it go..  I had run-ins with Ken in the past (he seems to be wanting to rekindle?) but I can easily let things go.  But for Wayne to continue to say he is "so mild mannered" is really passive aggressive to me when he makes a rude comment like that to kick things off..

As far as Wayne having probably dated many FSU women before, that's great.  Not that it matters but I will pretty much guarantee I have dated more.  I don't say this to brag in any way, my only point in saying this is that I do not believe he as anything on me when it comes to knowing the minds of FSU women.. Do I know everything about them?  Certainly not.. I think that would take a lifetime, perhaps more.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Mark-, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

Sometimes...

The answer is not to "Let it go... if..."

Sometimes it is best to "Let it go..."  Period...

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Oscar, posted by Wayne1 on Aug 19, 2002

Wayne wrote: "Are you really a Psychologist? I've never seen one so aggressive..."

I think that sometimes people get carried away on the board.

I get the sense that in "real life" Oscar is much more mild-mannered.

But... as for a psychologist being aggressive...

Ever hear of Gestalt therapy???

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nico- My take on..., posted by Oscar on Aug 19, 2002

Oscar,
You REALLY need to work on accepting criticism.  Your attacking behavior is not cool.  You claimed that you did not say that Wayne had a phobia and then belittled him about misquoting you.  When he took the time to repost your "phobia" statement; then you go off on a rant.  I know this post will probably set you off on an attack of me, but take a deep breath, step back and reread this thread.  Everyone who disagrees with you is not necessarily "the enemy".  Chill.
KenC

[Oscar]

... in response to disagreement, posted by KenC on Aug 19, 2002

I do not need to attack you for what you have said, you know why?  Because you were stating your belief and you were not attacking me as a person.  You had an observation and you stated it without the need to be rude, and I do respect that..  

Perhaps Wayne and I just got off wrong.  I know I felt he was really badgering me.

[Jack]

... in response to disagreement, posted by KenC on Aug 19, 2002

Ken,

 I am writing a book, I will give Oscar a copy of it. It is called "How to attack and remain your Cool"

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: disagreement, posted by Jack on Aug 19, 2002

In all fairness Jack, I luv ya bud but you are one of the most volatile people I know! LOL!  Where do you think I learned it??  ;-)