More on Mexicanas!

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Re: What about magazines?, posted by Cali vet on Feb 25, 2002

We are asking specifically about a regional magazine.

It helps to focus the attention from just those women who are in the general geographic area...

[Cali vet]

... in response to Yes but, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 25, 2002

Oh ok. Maybe they have regional magazines separate from newspapers in Mexico. In Colombia there's no such thing that I'm aware of.

[TexasRob]

... in response to Re: Randy, Randy, Randy..., posted by Tai on Feb 23, 2002

Randy, Keep posting.  I assure you 99.99 percent of the people reading this board are interested to hear what you have to say.  I am going back to Cali for 2 or 3 weeks in April, but I am interested to read what you say about Mexico.  I have spent a lot of time in Mexico and I am never ready to leave when it is time to come back home.

There are a few people like Tai on here who get pissed if you say anything that might burst their little bubble.  If they don't want to go to Mexico then let em skip these threads and go play in the street.

[Tai]

... in response to Keep posting Randy, posted by TexasRob on Feb 23, 2002

Seeing that you took the time to attack ME versus the content of any particular post....

I can only assume from the nature of it; "There are a few people like Tai", that you have some problem with me that I don't know about.

I don't respond to everyones posts, but If a particular flaw in someone's perspective strikes me, I challenge it.

If the perspective has merit it will stand up to the challenge, if not it will falter, fold, or in some cases change.

If you want to challenge my ideas/perspectives, go for it, I welcome it.

If you want to engage in personal attacks, though I would prefer not, we can do that too.

-Tai

[TexasRob]

... in response to Re: On another note, TexasRob, posted by Tai on Feb 23, 2002

I guess I just have a problem with candy azz cry babies.  Must be a problem I need to work on.  

I just don't like arrogant people like you, who get on here and tell someone to shutup when he is just posting his experience.  Mybe you should practice what you preach.

[Tai]

... in response to Re: Re: On another note, TexasRob, posted by TexasRob on Feb 23, 2002

I see....you realize that you can't step up to the plate intellectually, and have opted for sticking to the insults.

So be it...

You DO have a problem, and it clearly extends well into difficulty with reading and comprehension.

There is a difference between telling someone to shut up, and challenging them to offer the alternatives to what he/she says is "frustrating"...especially if he/she implies that he/she knows what the alternative is.

I'm sure I've lost you, so I'll give you a simple example that you can follow...

You and your buddies are trying to move your mobile home, using your '73 Ford pickup(with the gun rack in the back window). One of your friends, Jim Bob, says "Hey Tex, it really frustrates(bothers) me when you run a chain from your bumper to the mobile home like that."

Then, YOU say, "Well darn it Jim Bob, every time I move this trailer, you say that same thing. I been doin it like this for years. If you know a better way then let's hear it. Either put up, or..."

At that point one of two things would likely happen in an ideal situation: 1) Jim Bob introduces you to trailer hitch technology. OR 2) Jim Bob doesn't know a better way so he stops complaining about how you move your mobile home.

Entiendes, payaso?

"Candy azz cry babies"? -lol

Man, you are either a serious cheeseball...or you are watching WAY too many war flicks on the "boob tube".

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Keep posting Randy, posted by TexasRob on Feb 23, 2002


Actually, I appreciate both posters and hope neither one will quit posting.

Tai has some valid points. He expressed it differently than I did.

I think we're all interested in what Randy is saying.

We're just a little stuck on how we can take the information he is supplying, and applying it to our own lives.

Without a way of doing that... it becomes at worst gloating... and at best just plain frustrating...

But I appreciate that Randy is giving us all a different glimpse of Mexico and Mexicans...

[Tai]

... in response to Keep posting Randy, posted by TexasRob on Feb 23, 2002

TexasRob,

First of all how is he bursting MY bubble? I am not a cheeleader for Mexico OR Colombia. -Though my trips to Latin America have been to Colombia, I am not opposed to visiting other places. -Nor am I limited to just agencies, as my Spanish is good.

I AM interested in reading trip reports and experiences from other countries, Mexico included.

However, the "Alteno posts" focus on how this forum is really only about Colombia agencies, and that the guys here have no real idea about the "real" Mexico/Mexicanas.

Realistically, that same "conservative" and "traditional" nature of the Mexicanas/Mexico will present "issues" for many gringos(including you perhaps)...and Randy knows this.

Note:
Read Patrick's post on his experiences, and in the archives, Keith Smith and others have posted theirs. -You will find familiar/recurring themes.

My point was/is...if HE is "frustrated"(his words, not mine) from reading the "talk" regarding Colombia...then offer some practical advice or assistance to change it.

"There are a few people like Tai on here who get pissed if you say anything that might burst their little bubble"?

-I think you have me confused with someone else, my friend.

"If they don't want to go to Mexico then let em skip these threads and go play in the street."

...and It sounds like you're the one who's pissed.

-Tai

[Sparky]

... in response to More on Mexicanas!, posted by Alteno on Feb 22, 2002

And so many mexican men are living here in the U.S. that there is a lack of men for the women to marry. I am getting this from the Mexican men I work alongside on jobsites.

[mck]

... in response to Re: More on Mexicanas!, posted by Sparky on Feb 23, 2002

I have to disagree with all Mexican women being extremely conservative sexually and not kissing and stuff. Last year I went to Mexico city with my best friend I grew up with Eduardo who grew up in Mexico city. He is from a very wealthy mexican family. Granted in the neighborhood he grew up in the women are not into one night stands but we went to alot of the working class neighborhoods of Mexico city and had no problem with getting one night stands every night of the week and these were not hookers either. I have heard from other friends who have gone to Guadalajara also and have had no problem getting one night stands either, but again not in the wealthy neighborhoods. I went to Costa Rica last summer and met a girl from the University of Costa Rica and was from a wealthy family who put out the second night I met her. I think alot of it has to do with physical attraction. I don't think women in Mexico are not going to kiss you passionately on the second or third date if they are attracted to you. Maybe with the guys that say it takes two weeks before they made out with a Mexican girl, the woman was just waiting to the point where she thought you were physically attractive to her and sometimes this only happens by getting to know someone and having the combination of physical and personality traits that she admires truly appear to her and maybe the physical attraction was not there at first but then it was after 2 weeks. I think it all depends on the chemistry and it is not so much the cultural aspect of Mexican women. It is just like in the U.S., sometimes women will put out on the first date and sometimes it will take a month. It all depends on the chemistry. Mexican women are pretty conservative but that does not mean they are prudent when it comes to sex.

[colman]

... in response to not all mexican women are that conservat..., posted by mck on Feb 23, 2002

mck, hello, you hit the target. I agree 110%. I am a Colomibian-American and I can see how non-Latinos might perceive the notion of the way a lady dresses is supposively directed to one's chances of having sex with the lady. Colombianas in general love to dress sexy and personally I dont see a problem with this. Colombians tend to put an abnormal  amount of emphasis with their personal appearance and wardrobe.  I think its a grave mistake to think if a lady dresses provocatively, this would mean a green light for all men to assume she's loose. C'mon Altheno, I believe the Mexican women you mention from Guadalajuara that you describe as "very conservative" based on their lack of dressing sexy is misinterpreted. You see, my friend although in general most of Latin America tend to be a masculine, "macho" society, Mexico tends to take the gold. I truly believe many of these Mexican women just accept that tradition and machismo dictates its not right for a lady to "flunt" her body. In Colombia married couples seem not to mind to dress sexy at all, the thing both men and women truly have to worry about is each partners' jealous tendancies....--Colman

[mck]

... in response to Re: not all mexican women are that conse..., posted by colman on Feb 23, 2002

All these guys that go down to these different countries and the girl doesn't kiss on the first date because she has to fall in love with you and is very conservative, I believe is a bunch of garbage. The population is expanding in latin america rapidly and the women sexually are no different then American women. If they are attracted to you then they will show it. If they don't hold your hand or kiss you on the first date that means they are not instantly attracted to you. It is as simple as that, but that does not mean they cannot be attracted to you within time. Sometimes they can fall in love with the personality of the person over time and then fall in love with the person physically. I personally would not go on a second date with a girl who I would not get a kiss from the first night, but that rarely happens to me. I have lived in Spain, Costa Rica and have visited Mexico many times and have dated women in all three of these countries and also American women and it has been the same for me everywhere, but I am going to latin america not because I dislike American women but I just want to have a marriage that will last a lifetime and not roll the dice on a American woman and only have a 50% chance of the marriage lasting. I just look at statistics.

[TexasRob]

... in response to not all mexican women are that conservat..., posted by mck on Feb 23, 2002

That means nothing.  You were hunting sex and you found it.  That is true in any culture, country, or social class.

[Alteno]

... in response to Re: More on Mexicanas!, posted by Sparky on Feb 23, 2002

There are many places, take the state of Zacatecas for example, where I have heard the ratio of women to men in most of the towns is 7 to 1. That is because, like you astutely pointed out, most of the men have gone to the USA to work.

This is why the Mennonites have prospered in states like Zacatecas, because the land is not being worked, so it is very cheap, as there are not many men to work it. Mennonite girls in Mexico...but that is another story!

This is the type of discussion I had hoped to induce here. Nice work, Sparky...

[TexasRob]

... in response to More on Mexicanas!, posted by Alteno on Feb 22, 2002

Yep I have watched one leggy beauty after another strolling through the city of Mazatlan in Sinaloa.  In Guadalajara I saw many girls with the most amazing green eyes.  I have also been to Cali.  I walk around amazed at all the beauty both places, but I totally agree that in that region of Mexico the women are probably much more conservative.  I also disagree with the concept that they will not leave Mexico.  They sure as heck are not going to take off with the first guy that smiles at them, but once you have their heart I think they will go where you go.