I've been an infrequent visitor to this board, mainly due to the fact that i visited brasil rather than the Spanish speaking countries of latin america. however i know see that several readers here have shown an interest in the country with regard to finding a prospective wife. i feel that I must warn you guys before you start spending time and money visiting the place for the aforementioned reason.

I've spent around 7-8 months in Brasil, mainlyin Rio but have travelled to many cities within the country. I  have both brasilian and expat friends there and I speak the language.

Basically Brasilian women won't make good wifes, infact in most circumstances they fit within a 'nightmare scenario'.

Why?

In reverse order...

They tend to travel very badly, only a small percentage of the population speak English. If the girl leaves her country to  a foreign land she will have no friends and nobody to talk with. There won't even be any TV for her to watch. They tend top get homesick very quickly, infact from what I've seen, most girls last 3 months with there new husbands before returning home to Brasil alone.

The age thing

The younger girls tend to be outright gold-diggers and will spend your money as fast as you allow them. I know of several guys living down there who are now completely and utterly broke as they fell for some young thing who just spent their money then left. The older women (30+) are more genuine, however this is because a single girl of 30 in Brasil is not going to get a Brasilian man, secondly their face will be really screwed up by then. No this is no joke or insult, they are image crazy and will sunbathe from their early teens onwards WITHOUT SUNBLOCK, this catches up with them in their 30's when their faces will have more wrinkles than your scrotum. If you look at a lot of older Brasilians, (50+), you will notice Rodent cell carcinomas on their faces due to this abuse of the sun.

A bed for three

You best get ready to share, you may not be the only one. It is likely she will also keep some young stud Brasilian guy in the background as well as yourself. She may also two-time you with another gringo, usually the girl will ask you to send money for this, or money for that. The later situation has previously arisen with myself.

IQ/common sense deficiency

These girls are always looking for something bigger or better and won't be satisfied with what you have to offer. The last girl I was with over there lived with her mother and young son. They lived in the Zona Norte of Rio, basically a poor area but not an outright favela. Here's me , single, no kids and a good career. Was she happy? No, she lied and lied and told be all sorts of stories. She gave me a fake cell phones number, made dates she never showed for etc etc. However, when we were together she would say how she loved me, how she would miss me etc etc. I still can't understand why they just can't be honest. These girls never know when they are well off.

Brasilian Nationalism/Racism

Brasilians think they are THE BEST at everything, bar none. However in general they are mediocre in most respects.(hey they can't even win at football). There is a degree of anti US sentiment, including flyposters with ' USA '  with a red cross through it. If you walk with a girl in Rio, occasional passers by will say abusive things to her...basically infering that she is a puta. For this reason, many girls won't be seen with a gringo. To protect their women from these foreign invaders the Brasilian man will tell their women that only 'prostitutes' go with gringos. This makes forming a relationship very difficult if your partner is being constantly abused.

Big Spenders

many of the girls you will meet there will try and relieve you of as much cash in a short a time time a possible. You go to  a bar, she will order a expensive energy drink and whisky. You offer to buy a present? she'll always find the most expensive thing in the shop. Take great care with your cash and credit cards.

Beware the 'eye candy'

Many men who go to Brasil are blinded by the 'eye candy', basically the long hair, tanned skin and skimpy revealing clothes. The girls are excellent dancers and really make an effort to look good in most cases. The tend to be very affectionate and good in bed. However for a long term relationship you have to be able to see through this, in summary be VERY careful when selcting your choice....you probably get your heart broken....

... in response to .(they they can't even win at football)...., posted by zobra on Apr 24, 2001

see esjay you pissed off zorba ! zorba is right. i have a couple of brazillian lady friends here . today i saw them and told them what you said ...they were shocked they said how can he say that about us it is totally untrue. one girl said boy he must have got burnt bad to be so negative about us. she did say that you said one thing that is partially true and that is that the brazillian women do like to party alot and it is hard to tie one down to marriage , but she said other than that everything else you said is totally wrong. yea and how about pele , esjay ?

... in response to Brasilian Women...an indepth review, posted by esjay on Apr 22, 2001

My husband who is American has lot of Brazilian friends here.When I came here I was jelaous of him having these friends and taking care of them as they were their family.

And they treated and treat him as one of them. They care about him and about every other American that I know is their friend. What's more, they are very jelaous of their American friends, so they were kind of jelaous at first when they met me because I am not Brazilian.

They are the nicest and warmest people I have known here. The first time they met me they were like just looking at me from the other side of the room. Them we started talking (They understand Spanish pretty well) I felt like at home. Second time was just big huges and smiles and teaching me Samba and talking to me and welcoming me to their community. I loved it.

Many of the woman are married to American man and what I have seen is that they are very happy couples. Married not only for months but for years.

The last time, my husband told me that he has many friends but he has not felt so good as when he is with his Brazilian friends. They don't change, they are nice all the time. They really worry about him.

Many of her friends are Brazilian woman on her latest 30ths and they are beatiful and I have not seen even one with a problem on their faces as you said and they are not living here for more than 6 years. What's more there are very intelligent people and more than all they have a heart fill of love and frienship.

So, my conclusion is that if you had a bad experience with a Brazilian woman or with some Brazilian women it does not mean all are bad women. There are bad women every where, but that is not a reason to stereotype people. I do not know exactly where you met these women but maybe you should try to look in a different place in Rio or Brasil and you will change your mind about them. Good luck.

... in response to Re: Thanks...you just confirmed what I s..., posted by Esjay on Apr 23, 2001

One of the other younger women married a gringo when she was 25. Her husband is 40. They have been married for 3 years now and she is pregnant with their first baby. They make a wonderful couple.

Other married when she was 27. Her American husband divorced her because he wanted to re-married his previous Brazilian wife.

Her sister married when she was 24. Married to an American.

My husband is 40. So obviously most of his friends are near his age.

His friends are Cariocas and Paulistas and I have not seen any damage on their faces. They are beautiful even the ones who are almost 40. Logically, when you get 40 you dont look 20. Not Brazilians, not Americans, not Colombians or Russians or Peruvians look 20 or 25 when they are 35 or 40.

I have heard Bahia is a beatiful place. The woman are darker than the ones in Rio or San Paulo but beatiful too. I do not think they are agencies there and maybe they are not willing to leave their country as much as woman in other countries, but I am sure you can find many good women in Brasil as in any other country.

Also bear on mind that they as any others do not like when people do not show respect or interest for their culture or country. By the way, Portuguese is a beatiful language.

... in response to Re: where did all your....., posted by Esjay on Apr 23, 2001

They live and meet in the Seattle Area. No, the guys were not living in Brasil. They met here in the United States.

... in response to Re: I wouldn't consider them to be a goo..., posted by Esjay on Apr 24, 2001

First, I will learn the basics of the language. I know that there are guys that have gone to LA without speaking a word of the language and they have been lucky, but if I were a foreing man interested in marrying a Brazilian woman I would at least consider learning basic Portuguese.

Second, I do not think the location factor can influence too much. Based on experience, I know that if a LA woman (including Brazilians) really loves a man she would follow him until the end of the world.

Third, before going at least learn a little of the culture like for example that Brazilians speak Portuguese and not Spanish. It really pisses them off if you thank them with a "Gracias".

No, I was kidding. Seriously, learn about the culture,the cities, the people the music (It is not only Samba over there) and you will make a good impression. As I said before show interest for the culture, ask questions about it.

I think most men here can recognize bad women, so just go there with open eyes and don't fall for the first mini skirt that you see walking by (but I have to admit it must be difficult).

If you only go to discos to meet women, it is likely that you are only going to meet party women. Well, maybe these doesn't apply to them. They like partying. They like dancing very much.

My point is that you can not put all them in the same sack just because some of them were bad to you.

Good luck,

Georgina

... in response to Re: Various Questions Answered..., posted by Esjay on Apr 23, 2001

Did you get a chance to visit those Recife photos at http://br.photos.yahoo.com/vhamrecife.....before we leave this topic I would be interested in your comments on these ladies.  Any opinions, comments, impressions,.... whatever.  Taken in light of everything you've said...do these ladies appear to support what you have so well talked about?  I'm not being facetious.  I'm really curious.  Ray P. says it's a worthwhile venture while you have convinced us to the contrary.  Can you believe that Valeria is the mother of twins? Look at that stomach!   Wow!  Anyway ..if you'd care to divulge I'd appreciate it.  Thanks.

... in response to Re: These girls are average looking for ..., posted by Esjay on Apr 24, 2001

Ok I went to your web site.  It was interesting.  Thanks.  I think I failed to elicit from you what I really wanted to hear.  So instead I'll just say what's on my mind. When I looked at those ladies' photos from Racife, the site recorded in my previous post, I saw normal everyday loving type of women.  I didn't see the nightmare you say exists predominately in Brazil.  Now I know they're just fotos but my impression, my extrapolation(which I like to do) indicates that the women look normal...average  types....good for marriage, not unlike other foreign countries, simply looking for good husbands. They may be average looking in Brazil but exactly the types Americans are hoping to meet!  I guess the only solution would be to visit Racife and find out myself. Just one final question.  Do those ladies appear to be decent marriage candidates for average Americans?  If you care to divulge.  This conversation has been interesting and fun...you're a gentleman and a scholar. Thanks for the discourse. Good luck in your personal search.