Brasilian Women...an indepth review

[Esjay]

... in response to Re: Re: These girls are average looking ..., posted by buzzy on Apr 24, 2001

This is not probably what you wanted to hear. What I've reported on these boards aren't just my own experiences but those of around 30 friends/associates.

Two girls immediately come to mind whose marriages lasted 3 months. Not a good start.

I know three guys who were cleaned out by Brasilian girls. One was TOTALLY cleaned out, I mean ALL his money gone (he was renting an apartment so had no fixed assets)...the girl accessed the joint account and cleaned it out then left.

Brasilian guys tend to like younger women and often have affairs. The women you see on the Brasilian sites are desperate, Brasilian men don't want them anymore so they have to look overseas. You may notice on the very few Agency sites that the majority of women are over 30. Compare this with Columbia where the are many girls ages 21-30, with good educations. In Brasil generally it is the poorer girls who will go for a gringo, usually these girls have little education.

I also know several other guys who bought their girl a flight ticket, the guys went to the airport and their girl never showed. In these cases the girl had cashed in the ticket and spent the money. She usually made up some story about the mother being ill etc for not flying.

Recife is  primarily a sex tourist destination (esp popular with Germans). Not an ideal location to find a wife.

In summary...Brasil is a good place to go for 2 weeks fun and games...but find a wife....NO

If you have further questions then please email me

Esjay

ps I'm heading for Columbia in June....

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Better look elsewhere.., posted by Esjay on Apr 26, 2001

you will find the same sort of problems in colombia that you found in brazil . the examples you tell us about can and do happen evrywhere in the world including colombia...wake up!

[Esjay]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Better look elsewhere.., posted by pack on Apr 27, 2001

30 guys and only 1 successful marriage?....thats a 3% success rate, I'd bet you a dollar that the success rate in Columbia is higher than that. You seem intent on going to Brasil, I suggest you go and find out for yourself.....

when you get there how do you intend to find a decent girl?

Esjay

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Its the frequency th..., posted by Esjay on Apr 27, 2001

well once again what you say can and is said about any country anywhere in the world, just because you had a bad experience in a certain country doesnt mean everyone will. i have heard many horror stories about colombia and colombian women ...so what i went anyway and had a great time, met a lot of nice people. oh by the way esjay do you recall me telling you about the brazillian family i know here in my city? well i printed out your first post the one with all your generalizations about brazil and the women...whew ! you should have seen the expressions on their faces as they read it, and im not even going to tell you their verbal responses, let me just put it this way they are not impressed with your statements, ill leave it at that.

[Esjay]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Its the frequenc..., posted by pack on Apr 27, 2001

I wouldn't have expected any other response from them...

but the facts....

I've been to Brasil, you've been to Colombia...as yet we can't directly compare the two countires ourselves as we only know one...however guys I know who have been to BOTH places stated that Colombia is a far better place to find a nice girl.

I have been to Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay. The atmosphere in these Spanish speaking countries was far different that that in Brasil. These countries may be on the same continent but they are vastly different places.

I say again, my report was a compendium of around 30 guys findings, not my sole experience.

OK Pack, I know you'll never believe me until you've seen it yourself. I suggest you go to Rio and check out Ipanema/Leblon(middle class areas)...and try making a conversation with some of these nice middle class girls. You'll be lucky to get anywhere with them. But no harm in trying.....

Esjay

[pack]

... in response to Re: Nothing hurts more than the truth..., posted by Esjay on Apr 28, 2001

B S !  know what i think i think you are some sort of shill or cali agency owner. i think you have some sort of agenda . i think your postings are at the very least suspect. you appear out of nowhere and give a big long speech putting down everything about brazil , the people , the women ,everything almost comical , then you end it by saying you are going to colombia because its much better. well all i can say is this every single person i have ever talked to about brazil loved it. i am told the women are stuningly beautiful , the people are friendly , the cities and beaches are fantastic. so i can only assume that you either have some sort of reason for slamming brazil some hidden agenda or you might be the only american man to go to brazil and fail  miserably in your persuit for the one.as for me i may go to brazil and i may not , i really havent made up my mind yet . what i have done is begin a letter writing campaign to both brazil and colombia ( taking the advice of hound and several other people on this board) . so far i have recieved two emails from brazil one in sao paulo and one from Rio.

[Doug Y.]

... in response to Re: Re: Nothing hurts more than the trut..., posted by pack on Apr 29, 2001

 *30 friends who went to brazil, one succeeded*

 I gave him the benefit of the doubt, and attributed it to him having only friends that are old, ugly unrealistic wooldernink/joja types promising the world to super-model-in-training types.

 Your theory sounds even more plausible.  Either way, good guys succeed with good women........everywhere!!

 GO GET HER PACK!!!!!!

Regards,
Doug Y.

[pack]

... in response to go get her pack!!!!!, posted by Doug Y. on Apr 29, 2001

hi DOUG Y , como esta? thanks to you and hound and others on this board i have taken the first step ....mailing the letters and so far i like the results. i just might take your advice and get on a plane and go , heck jesse is headin down there in june i might just try to catch up with him in Rio or Sao Paulo?

[Esjay]

... in response to Re: Nothing hurts more than the truth..., posted by Esjay on Apr 28, 2001

Just read read my initial report, I just can't believe this family you know disagreed with it all. Infact I'm contacting a friend who took a foto of the ANTI-USA - long live Brasil posters. Once he emails me a copy I'll forward it to you so you can see for yourself.

How CAN they disagree about the language? how many people speak Portuguese? You take a girl from one of the coastal cities of Brasil with hot weather and beaches and take her to a industrialised city , in a cold and rainy place...do you blame her for being homesick...how can this 'family' disagree with that statement?? maybe its a case in point, i.e. you can't tell a Brasilian anything because they always know best!

Esjay

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: I'd standby everything I've said..., posted by Esjay on Apr 28, 2001


 again...as many times before your statements are sooooo very generalized, just listen to yourself , the things you are saying could be anywhere in the world. you talk about anti-american , dam man how many places in the world can you find that ? just about anywhere thats where! when i was in cali i saw anti-american propoganda...so what! i was sitting in a sidewalk cafe on 6th ave. with a gringo friend having some coffee and pastry when out of nowhere this colombian dude started mouthing off  " those dam gringos " he would say, then he would wait awhile and start again with "gringos go home" blah blah blah ! so what ! we finished our coffee and left the area. it can and does happen anywhere and almost every where.  again whats the difference of taking a brazillian girl away from her family and friends and warm weather , etc or taking a colombian girl away from her familia , friends , warm weather?

[outwest]

... in response to Brasilian Women...an indepth review, posted by esjay on Apr 22, 2001

I know of one guy who lives in usa with a brazilian wife
gorgeous, lady, they have a kid, she has been here 10 years
or more, and they are ecstatic, So your charictariations
are not always true.
    Depends on where you meet the women, I bet most
of the usa men who meet brazilian women , since there
are no agencies there, meet them in Bars......so they
are brainless bar girls, for the most part. Same thing
happens if you meet all your girlfriends in bars in the
usa.
   How many of them men you describe with horror stories
met the women at church, at a university, or a club. Those
are probably non existent. Every country has good and bad,
and your friends simply made bad choices.

[bret]

... in response to Brasilian Women...an indepth review, posted by esjay on Apr 22, 2001

"Brasilians think they are THE BEST at everything, bar none. However in general they are mediocre in most respects.(hey they can't even win at football)......"

i haven't been to brazil, so i can't say, but i will take your word on what you say in your post.

there is just one little issue i have with something you said, and i included your quote above in this post.

they are not mediocre racing car drivers!!! they have produced some of the best and most respected formula 1 drivers in the world!!!

emerson fittipaldi is still the youngest driver ever to win the f-1 driving championship, (a record he has held for about 25 years)..... later came to the u.s.a. to race indy cars and won the indy 500 twice. but the most respected brazilian f-1 driver, the late aryton senna is widely regarded as the very best open-wheeled racing driver that ever lived!!!....literally worshiped in the racing community.

those are just two legendary brazilians who were were not just good, but the very best in the world. the list goes on. here in the u.s., brazilians dominate the champ car racing series....gil de ferran(the 2000 champion and fellow ft. lauderdale resident), cristian fitipaldi, cristiono da matta(current points leader), helio castro nevis(top notch driver for roger penske, race winner in the long beach grand prix last week with a dominating flag to flag win), tony kanaan, roberto moreno, among many others. i could go on and on.

i know this is board is about women, and not many people will find this interesting, but the fact is in the racing world, the brazilians are some of if not the very best. never, were they mediocre.

thank you for your time,   bret

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: Brasilian Women...an indepth review, posted by bret on Apr 23, 2001

Yea, and I was just thinking here(which is always dangerous)...are'nt the Brazilians world-acclaimed for their street-fighting survival skills?  You know ..that "No holds barred fight" that is held in a international ring where they don't stop fighting until they've broken the other guy's spinal column? And of course who can match their "Carnival?"  If that's not "Numero Uno" in the world...then someone must be on their 3rd bottle of Tequilla!

[JunFanTX]

... in response to Re: Re: Brasilian Women...an indepth rev..., posted by buzzy on Apr 23, 2001

Fighting and physical stature of the males are one of the big differences between the Brazilian and Colombian men.  Colombians, for the most part, do not seem to know how to fist/knife fight nor do they seem to have much interest.

The Brazilians on the other hand have a very well developed interest in their forms of martial art:  Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Vale Tudo (means 'anything goes').  They are also alot bigger than their Colombian brethren.

I have a co-worker who is French, and married to a Brazilian woman.  They keep a house in Sao Paolo but he told me Brazil is an extremely tough place.

My .02

Mike

[Tai]

... in response to Yes my young grasshopper...., posted by JunFanTX on Apr 23, 2001

JunFan,

I'd venture a guess that if someone is "caught slipping" in the wrong part of Brazil, being taken down to the ground and twisted into submission by some Brazilian jiu-jitsu will likely be the least of his worries. -Chances are much better that he'll be staring at the business end of gun.

.02

Tai

ps - If Vale Tudo means "anything goes", there was alot of "Vale Tudo-ing" going on in my neighborhood growing up in East Oakland....but in Oak-town it's called the "okey-doke".