Need some honest advice

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Need some honest advice, posted by Streetwise on Dec 12, 2002

"...is ...a product of the jungle of modern urban Russia. She has learned to survive in a world without moral conscience or remorse..."

Unfortunately, that accurately describes most FSUW.

Yes folks, I went out on a limb and said "most". I am convinced that that is the reality.

Maybe that is why the few real diamonds there seem to outshine all others.

Two kopeks from south of the Mason Dixon line.

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Urban Jungle, posted by WmGo on Dec 12, 2002

Guy you are right on the money! My wife is a sweet heart but she also possesses that survival charactor, but fortunitly she has morals and is a good person. However almost every RW that I've met besides my wife only one other would I catagorize as a good catch and the rest have been bad news as far as a life partner goes, and these are women still in Russia and here married. I too don't want to be out on a limb but my wife told me that a good girl wouldn't use an agency and if she did she would be carefull so no one would know because everyone there knows or considers that is the place where the trash or girls with big problems go to find a man. I'm guessing but if you use an agency you'll need to meet many many women before you meet a good one on average.

Mike

[John LV]

... in response to Re: Urban Jungle, posted by WmGo on Dec 12, 2002

I'm affraid I don't understand?

If this is the way these girls are, why have anything to do with them?

Based upon my very limited experience, I would have to dispel some common myths purpatrated by many foriegn bride websites.

Myth # 1: There are way more girls than men in the FSU.

Answer: Not from what I saw, I saw many men over there, many very good looking men as well, who were very well dressed, and there seemed nothing wrong with them whatsoever.

Myth # 2: Woman over there have trouble finding a good man.

Answer: Pure nonsense, any decent looking woman over there could easily get dozens of men, without any difficulty whatsoever, just as they can here. The difference is perception, if your a girl, should you go for a man who is relatively poor like you are, or an American where all Americans are rich, live on gold plated streets, and have lots of money, etc?

Myth # 3: Woman in the FSU are caring loving woman, who only want a nice man to care for.

Answer: Again, pure nonsense, what they want is the chance at a better life, and they are willing to sacrifice in order to get it, and woman are woman, growing up in the FSU makes little difference, and actually since God does not exist in the FSU in any real way, values as such do not exist. Survival exist, and survival is harsh and cruel at times.

Lesson to be learned? Yes, "if it sounds too good to be true, it's not true".

There is no magic bullet, there is no fairy princess, there is no Oz, it's all an illusion. Some get lucky, just as some get lucky here too, and some people win the lottery, but most don't.

Sorry for being so pessimistic, but these agencies tell the biggest lies all for money, I'm sick of their lies.

No more fantasy for me, I've had enough of that, life is cold, hard, cruel, and downright mean, the sooner I realize that I will never achieve happiness the better I'll feel, because chasing something that will never come only leeds to lifelong frustration.

David

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Re: Urban Jungle, posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

Now shoo and put us out of our misery.  Move to Mexico and stay off the internet.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Urban Jungle, posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

...Now yer talkin! Thats it Davey, you're screwed. Jump. Pull the switch. Or pop a cap on her and then one on yourself. It'll solve all your problems and it's the only magic bullet that really does exist. Then we can *all* rest in peace.

Or else quit yer whinin and move on. I feel for ya but you choose to ignore all the advice given you so there's not much left to say. But quit the self pity thing, will ya?

[John LV]

... in response to "that will never come only leeds to..., posted by LP on Dec 13, 2002

I agree, I've decided not to be depressed anymore, my depression has now turned into aggression, now I'm going for the jugler.

Yesterday, when she hung up on me, that was the last time she will ever have the chance to disrespect me ever again. She told me she was impressed I was able to find her and get the car back, wait till she sees what I do now, she will be very impressed.

I have so much dirt on this girl I have no doubt the INS will not overlook what she has done, I can and will prove she is a liar.

I want her to go home to Russia, she does not deserve to stay here, and I will be doing many guys out there a huge favor by making her leave.

I still can't believe this has happen, but since it has, now it's time to take care of business, I won't let her get away with what she has done, she has seriously underestimated me, poor dumb girl.

I no longer need to post here anymore, I'm ok now.

David

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: "that will never come only leed..., posted by John LV on Dec 13, 2002

No follow that post up with action, i.e. no more posting!  Be gone loathsome troll!

[John LV]

... in response to You no longer need to post here!, posted by BubbaGump on Dec 14, 2002

Uh, I really hate to tell you this, but your name speaks volumes as to who you are. From my perspective, nobody normal would name themselves Bubba, nor would they follow that name with Gump.

I have lived all over this country, and I can assure you I have never met anyone with the name Bubba before, simply because I don't associate with people like that.

Are you from Alabama? Or perhaps Louisana? Your profile indicates you are from the western US, but I highly doubt that is where you are from, I'm born and raised in CA, and nobody would ever name themselves Bubba who is from there. Bubba is southern slang for an uneducated, backwards, chewing tobacco spitting fat lazy good ole boy from the south.

Does that describe you Bubba ole boy?

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: You no longer need to post here!, posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

Nope, and at least I don't display a personality disorder. I think you're a feminist troll.

[John LV]

... in response to Well, posted by BubbaGump on Dec 15, 2002

Feminist Troll?

Well how does it make you feel then that this "feminist troll" could easily kick your butt like she was fighting a two year old little girl?

You must be mighty embarrased I'll tell ya.

[Globetrotter]

... in response to "that will never come only leeds to..., posted by LP on Dec 13, 2002

You're right there man.  Better to be smart than educated, wonderful to be both but if you're niether, best to be lucky.  

This guy could be a "Jerry Springer" candidate...woe is me, woe is me, why am I so put upon?...I still love her and don't want her/me to fail...what went wrong, what went wrong?...how can I fix it...make her "see" the light...I am so wonderful, how can she throw all this away?

All this guy is, is educated...not smart, not lucky, and without a clue.

Now, "I" see the light!  So sorry for lambasting you in an earlier response...but, I'm new here.

[LP]

... in response to Re: "that will never come only leed..., posted by Globetrotter on Dec 13, 2002

lol...where did that happen? Lucky for you I didn't see it! ;-)

Hey Davey, fwiw, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Frankly, I don't think she is anything to write home about. Btw, you're going thru all the classic phases in order: grief, denial, anger, acceptance. Don't let it out, keep those emotions wadded up in a tight little ball where they'll fester into mental illness. She'll pay! They'll all pay! lol...You gettin my drift?

I still maintain your pesonality had something to do with all this but she should have left before she betrayed you. You're both guilty imho. Her saying how you were always "yelling at her" doesn't surprise me in the least. I know ya pal, I know yer type all too well.

Fer once, think about what yer doing.

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Lambasting?...., posted by LP on Dec 13, 2002

Well, more like "shame on you"..."it is beneath you" is what I said when I thought you were kicking the poor dog that got hit by the car.....until he showed everyone how STUPID he was.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Lambasting?...., posted by Globetrotter on Dec 13, 2002

...I've been cuttin this guy more slack than most guys here.
I even deleted some posts after I got some details on his story.

But not any longer. ;-)

[John LV]

... in response to Lambasting?...., posted by LP on Dec 13, 2002

Well your wrong, you have never met me in person, how I can be on a message board behind a computer and how I am in person are two totally different things. If you actually met me in person, you would see I was very nice. And while I'm not saying I was perfect in our relationship, and I did yell at her, but she deserved it. Like I said before, she would never clean anything in the house, she would dirty the whole house up and expect me to clean it, I had to do the shopping, pay the bills, clean the toilets, clean the kitchen, do the dishes, do her laundry, gas up her car, take her car through the car wash, vacuum the carpets, plan our budget, plan our trips, plan everthing we ever did, she could do none of these things, she refused to do any of those things, saying to me, "that is what a man is for".

When I found out about this guy she was seeing, she said to me, "a real man would have gone over to his house and beat him up, why didn't you"

I asked her, "is that what you want me to do", and she said, "I'm not saying that, but that is what a real man would do"

Are you getting the picture yet LP? She is pyschotic, plain and simple.

Tell me LP, what would you have done in this situation? It's Friday night, your wife is out somewhere and won't answer her cell phone, she eventually calls you up and says she is over her girlfriends house, you both hang up and then you dial *69 and call back the number, a guy answers the phone, you say, "is Natasha there", she gets on the phone and you say, "what is going on Natasha, there is a guy over there", and she pauses and then says, "we need to talk". So she comes home and tells you, "I have found another guy whom I am in love with, he makes me happy", you then say, "well if your going to be with another guy, then pack your things and move out", she then says, "I'm not going to move out, I'm on the lease too, I have just as much right to stay here as you do, and there is nothing you can do about it"

What would you do LP, she wants to see this other guy and then sleep in your bed, have you feed her, drive around the 22K dollar car you bought for her, etc.

What would you do LP? This is what I did, I said, "well if you won't move out then I will, she said, "go ahead".

Now I ask you, what do you think stopped me from taking my fist and shoving in straight down her throat? It's called jail LP, nothing more, if it wasn't for jail, she would not have any front teeth in her mouth right now, that much I can assure you of.

Now LP, have you ever heard of anything like what she did to me? Have you ever heard of that kind of nerve before?

No LP, you cannot imagine how nice I was to this girl, you cannot imagine how much nonsense I took from her for so long, I may have called you every name in the book before, and I may get into many cyber fights, but in person I am a very nice person.

I was nicer to her than any other human being I've ever met, that much I can promise you, but there is only so much a man can take, have you ever heard of a woman who won't clean anything ever? Who says, "what do you think I'm your slave" after you ask her to rinse out her own dishes?

No LP, you don't know what I have gone through, how many guys who made 45K last year would buy two brand new cars for their wives? How many guys would not buy themselves any new clothes for 2 years so that she could? How many guys would put up with a girl who could not keep a job? Who would sleep in till 2 pm everyday, and stay up until 3am in the morning?

No LP, you simply don't understand what I've had to deal with, I'm sorry you feel I'm such a bad guy, but you don't know me, you really don't, come to Vegas sometime, we will have a drink together and see for yourself.

David