general Brazil info

[cancunhound]

Since not much mentioned here of recent

http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dplaces/brazil/index.htm

[Locii]

... in response to general Brazil info, posted by cancunhound on Jan 20, 2004

That link has a lot of dubious material.  He is using statistics in ways that are utterly out of context.  For example, even assumming that murder rates in Rio and Sao Paulo are accurate (which I do not), a murder rate without a population (density) is meaningless.

If the info on this page is to be beleived:
http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0%2C1413%2C200%257E20954%257E1003705%2C00.html
...then Detroit is roughly as dangerous as Rio in terms of homocide rate, given a Rio population of 14M.

If even half of his garbage is to be beleived, I can offer a simplification to his site....Dangerfinder...wherever Robert Pelton is.

Perhaps the best evidence of his nonsensical approach to information is "Russia has gone from superpower to Third World in a mere six years."  Guess what?  Russia was always third world.

Ciao

[bigbdm4]

... in response to general Brazil info, posted by cancunhound on Jan 20, 2004

It's true, every word!  Robert Young Pelton is the world's most excellent expert about everything, especially Brazil.  Everybody knows that so why don't you?  He even knows the difference between shinola and coffee.    

Brazil is the most dangerous place in the world.  Millions of land mines, terrorists lurking, natives that eat you, all Brazilians have horns and tails, pitchforks, they are all devils, they practice black magic, they eat babies, they all come out at night, naked, and dance wild in the moonlight.  Whatever you do, never go there, tell your friends.

We want to thank the dog of Cancun for the great URL, and his eloquent posting.  His interest in Brazil is wonderful, we love it.  We wonder how else he can make Brazil more dangerous.  We eagerly await his next posting about the dangers of Brazil.  We only wish that he would tell us why he is so interested in Brazil, and why he went to all the trouble to research enough to find a fountain of truth like Pelton, and why he bothered to post it to this list.  

Finally, and this is going to fly into the teeth of Pelton, not that he has any, but soon is Carnival.  You can't justify it any more than the sun and the moon, because after all, that's what it's all about.  I laugh and wonder what you all, you listers, are going to do about it.  It's coming soon.  

Big B

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: general Brazil info, posted by bigbdm4 on Jan 20, 2004

Thanks for verifying that info - one certainly must be careful  about the validity of just one source.  Good to have it substantiated by an insider like yourself.  Thanks also for the kind words about taking the trouble to research Brazil - but I really can't take any credit.  Speaking of Carnival; anyone considering going may find any of the "Department of Foreign Affairs" travel sheets useful, like:

http://www.dfat.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/Brazil

[bigbdm4]

... in response to Good info, as requested here's some more..., posted by cancunhound on Jan 21, 2004

I guess that makes me an insider?

Big B

As such, the first thing I would say is that dogs, from Cancun or anywhere, don't belong in the house.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Re: general Brazil info, posted by bigbdm4 on Jan 20, 2004

Finally a sincere post with honest factual information from Biddy-biddy who is evidently so oversized he has to use the plural form.

[DavidMN]

... in response to Biddy biddy & the pronoun, posted by Cali vet on Jan 21, 2004

I've wondered about that "we" thing too:

1) I don't think he's Brazilian so he cannot speak as one of its citizens, imploring us to savor the delights.

2) Maybe he's referring to himself and his wife as "we."  Hmmm...doesn't she have her own thoughts?

3) Maybe he really is a lunatic and hears voices. ;-)

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Biddy biddy & the pronoun, posted by DavidMN on Jan 21, 2004

He's not Brazilian but he sure acts the part.  I think he lives in Santa Monica, California with his Brazilian wife.

[bigbdm4]

... in response to Big B's a wannabee, posted by Cali James on Jan 21, 2004

Thanks for the free advertising, and especially thanks for getting my name right, my nationality is American, btw, and my city of residence you also got correct, thanks again for that further plug on our behalf.  

We were somewhat surprised that you didn't also give out our web site URL.  What held you back?  Lack of something, or what?

You are married to a Calena. You made your first trip to South America in 1995 when you spent several weeks in Bolivia. In 1998 you checked out Bogota and the following year Cali. You've been a Cali traveler ever since. You began posting here in 2000 under the name of "El Diablo".

OK, "The Devil", thanks for posting such a great posting.  

Big B

PS  Why did you check out the other places AFTER marriage?  What's wrong with your marriage, besides you, that is?

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Big B's a wannabee, posted by bigbdm4 on Jan 22, 2004


My bio said nothing about WHEN I got married.  My wife and I were married a little over a year ago so your assumption that I visited these places afterward is incorrect.

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: Biddy biddy & the pronoun, posted by DavidMN on Jan 21, 2004


4) He has worms.

 (Joke borrowed from Victor Borge)

[Cherinha]

... in response to general Brazil info, posted by cancunhound on Jan 20, 2004

Interesting info.  Brazil is not grandma's back yard (safe)... but it still has many incredible places and people, and safe places.  Thanks for the link to keep informed from places and different opinions.

The USA came up with:
http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dplaces/unitedst/index.htm

Nothing on Colombia came up. "file not found. The requested URL was not found on this server. "  Always wanted to visit there, but was not sure on danger/etc. A beautiful country though.

Ecuador, Venesuela, Chile, Uraguay, Argentina, Peru, and Paraguay are not on the list.  I would have been interested in reading their comments when I had time.  This is a dangerous world that is for sure.  Thanks for the links and info.  Cheryl

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: general Brazil info, posted by Cherinha on Jan 20, 2004

Robert Pelton (comebackalive.com) used to have some "slightly negative" views on Colombia, but due to the recent positive progress in the country he removed those remarks from his website and took Colombia off the world's most dangerous places list.

(OK the truth can be deduced here: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0304/q_n_a.html)

-CaliGringo.com

[pablo]

... in response to Re: Nothing on Combia, posted by cancunhound on Jan 20, 2004


Even though the link that is mentioned is no longer accessible there is still information regarding the dangers in Colombia at his site.
 
http://www.comebackalive.com/df/kidnappn.htm

I wonder if he made some sort of deal with his kidnappers and removed that particular link.

Intersting link at NG Cancunhound but after reading his story I think the guy has a death wish.  Walking into a known recent ambush is plain loco.

Pablo

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: Re: Nothing on Combia, posted by pablo on Jan 20, 2004

The guy's definitely a nut however I'm not sold on the validity of any of his "tales" whatsoever.  I put 'em right up there with Geraldo.  That Colombian link went down on his website at the time of the "kidnapping" and hasn't returned.  Also, if you noticed the NG story with the initial brief interview - it had a reference to a complete story to be posted in a specific later issue - which never happened.  

What a brilliant idea - just email the FARC, ELN, AUC, etc.. to get a "pass" to go birdwatching with confidence!

The whole premise of that tale is just not believeable - hookup with some fellow backpackers in Panama and happy-go-luckily decide to explore the Darien Gap?  With intent of entering Colombia?  Hmmm... must have been some good stuff they smoked to come up with that one.