On a tear!

[Cali vet]

[This message has been edited by Cali vet]

Wow! Margareth (or her webpage manager) is on a tear. I just got an e-mail from her directing me to www.geocities.com/stop_latin_best/.
Under "DIRTY TRICKS" I'm identified along with Biave as being a "hired shill" (note to Luz Amparo: Hey where's my check?!) Ok, gotta go, gotta get back to working on the next "carefully orchestrated negative campaign".
Enjoy.

Cali-vet

[Patrick]

... in response to On a tear!, posted by Cali vet on Nov 12, 2002

If the email came from anything other than @latinencounters.com than it wasn't from who they claimed.  It's probably the same guy who's a member of both LWL and Planet-Love who created the phoney geocities web site about Larry Glickman and another a while back about Hoda.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Please post the email address it came fr..., posted by Patrick on Nov 12, 2002

Already deleted it. Surely others got the e-mail though. Would be a lot of work to go through just for my benefit. Obviously intended to provide some comic releif.

[Margareth Mayor]

... in response to Please post the email address it came fr..., posted by Patrick on Nov 12, 2002

Hi Patrick.

As far as I know,There is absolutely nothing dark going on between agencies in Cali. We only use the internet to provide information to our customers and promote our female members.  LB LE and ACG agree that we 'd like to concentrate in our work so, we'd like this false information on boards and fake sites to end.
Any help would be appreciate it.
The geocities webpage about LB was created  from a yahoo email
stop_latin_best@nospam.com

Have a nice day

Margareth Mayorca
LE

[Margareth Mayor]

... in response to On a tear!, posted by Cali vet on Nov 12, 2002

This is the first time I have seen this website.  I did not write it, not do I have any idea who did.  Luz Amparo (the owner of Latin Best) and I maintain a very friendly relationship.  I have called her to tell her about the webpage you showed me.  None of us here know who wrote it or why.  Luz Amparo and I are two colombian women and we both run respectable businesses, to help you find the right lady in our country.  We have no reason to attack another agency.  We have hundreds of happy clients and celebrate weddings of happy couples frequently.  If the person who send you the link wrote the page, we can not imagine why.  Both agencies are now aware of the webpage.  It is very unfortunate that someone finds the need to partake of such stupid behavior without our knowledge or consent.  We regret that you chose to believe it.  

The fact is this is highly illegal.    Again, I am sorry you chose to believe that the malicious behavior was mine.  It was not.

Calivet or any of you who might have got the spam  email about this fake geocities site PLEASE IGNORE IT.

LATIN ENCOUNTERS DOES NOT Publish ANYTHING in a different website from ours, and we do not have a mailing list. Every email we send is written as a reply to a request from information.

Feel free to asks us about any doubt you may have.

Sincerely

Margareth Mayorca

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: On a tear!, posted by Margareth Mayor on Nov 12, 2002

Good job for being direct with making things clear. I'll see you, Ricardo, and Luz Amparo all during December.

Aaron

[Hiker]

... in response to On a tear!, posted by Cali vet on Nov 12, 2002

I was impressed with both Latin Best and Latin Encounters.  Regardless of their smear tactics they both will work very hard for their customer.  Most of us aren't looking for an agency owner to vote for as woman of the year, we simply want to hire someone who is good at what they do.  My hunt is over and I will get married in Feb, but I would use either of these two before I would use any of the other agencies.  I do think a new one is opening up that I would probably visit first.  Paola from All Colombian Girls is working there.  I have a lot of respect for her integrity and she is very impressed with the focus of the new agency.

I do like Latin Best very much but I would not spend one penney with her resellers.  There is one called My Latin Wife  and another For ever love based in London.  Both of these are just middle men and the one in London will change the profiles of the girls.  He reduces the ages 4 or 5 years as well as other info.

Yeah an agency might have ringers or whatever you want to call them but the majority of the girls are very real and looking for something real.

[valuedcustomer]

... in response to Re: On a tear!, posted by Hiker on Nov 12, 2002

Did you say All Colombian Girls?  Check out Ruby Amaparo code RB1843 Fifth Gallery Between 25 and 30.  Say hi too her tall boyfriend and make sure you buy enough gas to  fill up the SUV.

[Hiker]

... in response to Re: Re: On a tear!, posted by valuedcustomer on Nov 12, 2002

That's an old story that shows up here from time to time.  There are some players on both sides of the fence.  There are some girls ready to play the guys who come down.  There are some guys ready to play the girls when they get there.  I think the object is to be smart, mature, and careful.  We go to another country looking for a wife with our eyes wide open.  With rare exception the problems we encounter are our own fault.  I see gringos who could not buy a date here go to Latin America and start throwing money like crazy at some young hardbodied babe.  I am sure that later he cries about her morals, when he fact he got exactly what he should have expected.

[valuedcustomer]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: On a tear!, posted by Hiker on Nov 12, 2002

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There is some truth to what you say except for the pop psychology part "with rare exception the problems we encounter are own fault" (I hate that new age stuff, don't you?).  For example, one gentleman reported here some time back that the lady in question showed up in an SUV with her tall BOYFRIEND and she says, "This is my interpreter".  And then she said, "since I am covering the interpreter wouldn't it be fair for you to fill up the gas tank"?  "And wouldn't it be fair for you also to buy the meals for my interpreter and me?".  Now, was this gentleman a poor desperate bloke anxious to throw money at the first "hard body" who smiles at him or was he lead to believe by a crafty vixon that he was doing the right thing in a strang land?  Even your guru would have a hard time with this one.  I think an alternative explanation is that he was lied to by a certain young lady with a well-oiled modus operandi.  Now, I agree that his loss was probably something he could easily absorb.  But the greater lesson for all of us is why do the agencies (who obviously know what she is doing since she has been around since the flood) who say they hold our best interests at heart tolerate her?  And incidentally, another lesson for us may be that we can all be taken (geniuses that we are).

[Craig]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: On a tear!, posted by valuedcustomer on Nov 12, 2002

I know the girl and the guy. It's a small world in Cali!

[Hiker]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: On a tear!, posted by valuedcustomer on Nov 12, 2002

I know the story.  The "boyfriend" you mention manages an agency himself.  Yes the guy got burned by her.  If I remember the story correctly he could have walked away from the setup sooner.  I agree that there are pros out there.  I also know there are pros on our end of this also.  Guys go down there make a lot of promises in exchange for a little action, while knowing they have no intentions of marrying the girl.  It works both ways.  Yeah, I would agree that Ruby is a con, and she has been discussed on here in depth many times.  Yes there are exceptions were some guy makes the trip with the best of intentions, does everything right, and still gets burned.  My point is that from my observations most of the stories that would make a good crying over your beer country song, were the guys own fault.  Guys go down wanting to believe all the agency hype. As to why an agency owner would leave someone like her listed I don't know.  

As far as new age thinking being that we are responsible for our own actions, I am confused.  I would have thought that was old school thinking.  I would label new age thinking as always blaming the other person.  I will have to get with my guru and run that one by him.

[Craig]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: On a tear!, posted by Hiker on Nov 13, 2002

Finally someone I agree with!

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: On a tear!, posted by Hiker on Nov 13, 2002

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I totally agree with you hiker, there's nothing new ageish about being responsible for your own choices.  I think this free meal and gas story that valued keeps bringing up is really small time stuff.   I remember the very first time I was in Cali about 3 years ago, I accompanied a gringo from Latin Love, his date who was Ruby's sister, Ruby herself, and an amiga of mine for dinner.  There were five of us and I and the other gringo split the bill.  On the way back, the sisters stopped the SUV off for gas and guess who paid for it.  

The other gringo had invited the sisters and I invited my amiga.  So it was at our invitation, I remember thinking that asking for money to pay for the whole tank of gas was low class but noone had a gun to our head, we could have said no but instead we just went ahead and paid for it.  But big frickin deal....they got some free gas....I saw live and learn and if you don't like a girl move on....simple as that.

El Diablo

[valuedcustomer]

... in response to On a tear!, posted by El Diablo on Nov 13, 2002

At the risk of beating a dead horse to death, I think the particular fact pattern I set out could actually be prosecuted under fraud statutes in the U.S. so I don’t think it’s even a close ethical question.  And she is the only one who seems to be doing this, so I don’t even know how much it teaches anyone about subtler and probably more serious situations.  The most valuable thing guys can carry away from this is to know her name and avoid her.  That’s why I put her name out.  She is just a con, pure and simple.  I don’t know why she is being protected by the agencies.  My best theory is that she is a relative of everyone.  

As for the pop psychology thinking, I was referring to the widely propagated idea that originally began with EST that everyone is always responsible for everything that happens to them no matter what.  In general, I view these type of generalizations as thought stoppers.  However, I wasn’t being too serious in accusing Hiker of having a guru.