INS

[Wayne1]

I get a little pissed off when I see guys going crying to the INS when they get slammed by one of these women.  "Visa fraud, Visa fraud"

One minute the guys are complaining about the INS and how bad they are, then a year later they want the INS to deport their "nightmare" for taking advantage of them.  Give me a break.

Withdraw the support by mail, and let it go.

I think that is why they treat us the way they do...

You take your chances, and if it doesn't work out, don't expect the INS to clean up the mess you got yourself into.  There are 1000s of illegals sneaking under the fence, and they have better things to do then go after ex wives, and k-1 runners.

They are busy eating donuts, drinking coffee, and trying to re boot their antiquated computer system.

Wayne

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to INS, posted by Wayne1 on Sep 17, 2002

Wayne

Men of good conscience can disagree on this one, so if you feel differently I won't say you're wrong.  But I don't agree with your general position, if I understand it correctly.  It sounds like you are saying that if the woman marries the man for residency and leaves he should accept his responsibility under the affidavit of support he signed.  I don't agree with that.

The law creating the affidavit of support for fiancee visas is fundamentally flawed.  Where did this country get the idea that we don't have the right to marry anyone we want on this planet and live with them here in our country of citizenship?  By making this a potentially financially catastrophic decision they are restricting or removing that right.  The first liberty is economic liberty.

The reason the law exists is because we men who want to marry a foreign woman are a very small and unpopular minority.  So the lawyers in Washington just threw this burden on our backs.  They knew it would win them political mileage with 90% of the country.  "We're saving you tax dollars.  These irresponsible men will pay for these women even if they leave."

If we take the attitude that once the woman marries the man she should be entitled to stay in this country it will have the effect of creating an even greater incentive for foreign women to abuse the immigration laws.  Is that good?  The message is: Find a man, go to the US, leave him, find an attorney, enjoy the good life.

If the marriage fails within 2 years why shouldn't the woman return home?  She doesn't need immigration laws to protect her from physical abuse.  There are local laws that do that.  If she's not happy with the man she can go home.  What's wrong with that?  She will be no worse off than before she came here.  In fact, in cases like my ex she is better off even if she returns.  She has met dozens of men here who would gladly petition for another K1 and bring her right back.

If the woman doesn't want to stay with her husband she can go home.  That's the correct solution.  Saying a man should have to continue to support a woman who is probably in the bed of another man is not the correct solution.

Steve

[Wayne1]

... in response to Re: INS, posted by DallasSteve2 on Sep 17, 2002

No you didn't get it.

"Withdraw the support by mail, and let it go."

That is what I said...

Yes I agree with you that they shouldn't get to stay, and yes the laws are really really wrong.  But the INS does not have time to go around deporting lonely guys mistakes.  That is my point. Withdraw the support document and suck it up because the INS isn't going to do anything.

But I get sick of these guys who ignore all red flags, marry a scammer, then go whining to the INS to deport them.

Wayne

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Re: Re: INS  NO NO NO, posted by Wayne1 on Sep 17, 2002

Wayne

OK, gotcha.  Or as we say in Colombia "de acuerdo".

You say "Withdraw your support by mail".  

Then I have this question:

Can I withdraw my support?  The support agreement says somthing like it's valid until the person has 20 quarters of Social Security credits, or they become a citizen, or I die.  I have a feeling if I mail the INS a letter withdrawing my consent they are going to ROTFLTAO.

What's the procedure there?

Steve

[Wayne1]

... in response to Affidavit of Support follow-up question, posted by DallasSteve2 on Sep 17, 2002

Steve,

I think you can withdraw your support if it is before the 2 year mark and before your status interview.  You tell them that you are no longer together and her permission to stay after the two years is revoked.  She very may well stay anyway, but I don't think you are responsible after she is illegal.

Depressing subjects but important.

My wife and I have never had any real problems, and it feels like we've been married forever.  It's very stable and good.

I really feel for the guys that choose the wrong ones.

Wayne

[HappyInBrazil]

... in response to Re: Affidavit of Support follow-up quest..., posted by Wayne1 on Sep 18, 2002

It's nice to hear that things are going well and you two are happy.

[Cali vet]

... in response to INS, posted by Wayne1 on Sep 17, 2002

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