Need some honest advice

[JohnL]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Tatoos, posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

.............. II Cor, 6:14 because if you do, there is the highest probability that you will go @.. over T.. again & again .....

To me that 'advice' comes first & foremost, above all things, all the time, without reservation ! That is the only 'condition' that will give you POB (Power Over Bush)  LOL !!
Seek & Thou Shalt find.

Keep looking, never give up. You never know whats 'in store' for the next day; I welcome every day with that firmly fixed in my thoughts!

Keep strong.

JL

[John LV]

... in response to And never ever forget, never ........, posted by JohnL on Dec 14, 2002

Thank you John, you are a very nice person, if only more people could be like you this world would be a very nice place to live.

I promise that I will try what you propose, I will do my best, thank you for your encouraging words.

I pray that God will bless you for your kindness.

David

[JohnL]

... in response to Re: And never ever forget, never .........., posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

.................. and read this again and again II Tim 2:15, cause wer'e never gonna find a stone big enough to hide behind Mate.

Show thyself, approved, not to us PL Posters, but elsewhere ....

I try, and I think I'm getting there ..... sometimes.

Stay strong!

JL

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Tatoos, posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

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[John LV]

... in response to Yes David, of course, it's all God's fau..., posted by Oscar on Dec 14, 2002

I hate to tell you this Oscar but you sir are a joke at best.

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Yes David, of course, it's all God's..., posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

I'm a joke because I find it offensive that you have the nerve to to be angry at and blame God for your own mistakes and failures??  Can you possibly be any more arrogant?      

Just get some help David.. That would be the best Christmas present you could ever give yourself.

[John LV]

... in response to Re: Re: Yes David, of course, it's all G..., posted by Oscar on Dec 15, 2002

Ok, your right, I need some help, now could you be so kind as to name one single solitary human being currently living on this planet with half of my knowledge?

Which professor at which universtity do you believe has so much of half of my current knowledge and understanding? If you can direct me towards one, I'll be happy to go see him.

I read the Bible Oscar, that is all the help I need, for I do not place my trust in man, but in God. And just because I may be a bit angry at God for allowing me to meet such a horrible woman as Natasha, I also blame him for making me live on this terrible planet in this God forsaken world.

But that is between me and my heavenly Father, and it has nothing to do with you.

David

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yes David, of course, it's a..., posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

Believe it or not not, almost any decent therapist could help you, you are nothing unique, except in your own mind, and the sooner you learn that, the better.  It might even enable you to have a normal relationship at some point in your life.  Since when did "knowledge" ever necessarily equate with "understanding"?

You may have tidbits of information memorized David, but you are not nearly as "amazing" as you think you are.  Your great "knowledge" contradicts itself constantly, for example-

"I do not put my trust in man but in God", yet you have said how angry you are at God for "allowing this to happen to you"?  Doesn't sound much like trust to me.  You also "blame him for making me live on this terrible planet in this GOD FORSAKEN world"?  Some faith.  Do you perhaps think that it could possibly offend the God you speak so much of, that you would call his world "forsaken"?  You say there is absolutely nothing wrong with "suicide" and that it takes great courage (but of course it is not at all an act of courage) you speak of destroying one of His works?    If you know so much about God, where is your faith??  I have not seen a shred of it here, I have only heard you blame and be angry at God, blame your girl and everyone else except the person whose fault all of it really is- YOURS.  

Your fabulous "knowledge" seems to be doing you precious little good David, can you see that?

As I said, most any decent therapist could help you, that is of course if you were to try humbling yourself just a little (or a lot!) and listen with the intent to understand rather than condescend.

[John LV]

... in response to David-, posted by Oscar on Dec 15, 2002

Oscar, do yourself a favor and don't bother responding to me, because from now on, your posts won't be read by me, you are hopeless.

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: David-, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

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[ChrisNJ]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yes David, of course, it's a..., posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

...Ok, your right, I need some help, now could you be so kind as to name one single solitary human being currently living on this planet with half of my knowledge?...

Oooh, I feel the power of your great intellect.

I can name 1 person...your WIFE

She defeated you.  Ran circles around your superior intelligence. Pinned your wimpy ass to the mat.  All without batting an eyelash.  Just using her SUPERIOR BRAINPOWER.  

[John LV]

... in response to Wile E Coyote.....Super Genius! ! ! ! , posted by ChrisNJ on Dec 15, 2002

Really?

Well I have taken her car away 3 times, she no longer has a bright red 22K Mitsubishi Eclipse anymore, now she has only her two legs which she spreads for any guy who will help her.

Seems to me that's a good way to receive herpes, a good way to mess with the wrong guy who wouldn't think anything of throwing her through a window one day.

She has also destroyed her own credit, and she will never again be able to rent an apartment her in the USA.

And if you think all my cards have been played out, you better think again pal, you have no idea of who I am or what I can do with the stroke of a pen.

I have been building a case against her that the INS will not be able to overlook, I'm getting an Affidavit from her previous boyfriend indicating she had sex with him, I have a forged employment letter on a floppy disk which she made at Kinko's to secure her apartment, and I have an ace in the hole my good man.

You ever heard of one of those little digital recorders you can place in your pocket? Well guess what my fine feathered friend? I have her recorded admitting to filing a false report to the police about spousal abuse, in the recording she not only admits to doing it, but she also says, "what are you worried about, they didn't arrest you now did they"

Additionally I have a certified letter from a library in San Diego which is suing her for 250 dollars for books and videos she refuses to return, further showing her character, and I'm also working on getting another affidavit from the Russian girl at Costco who will no doubt indicate how selfish Natasha is, and that her marriage to me did not seem like a valid one.

So you see my good man, Natasha doesn't have one tenth of one percent of my intellect, and she is going to pay a price for what she has done that she simply does not understand, I promise you she won't be staying in this country much longer.

We'll see who has the last laugh.

David

[Mike]

... in response to Need some honest advice, posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

Dude trust me women can be some of the greatest actors on earth if they need or want something! Did you ever think she was crying so that other guy would get her a car? Also if she wants to stay here there's nothing you can do to make her leave (if you wanted to) but the chances of her getting any aid that would come back on you is slim to none and chances are she wont try for any welfare anyway sense strippers do ok as far as income goes. I've heard of girls getting to stay here and they never even got married on the K-1 visa! Anyway get a lawyer and dump her for good and do it NOW!

A girl working a strip bar has no problems finding a guy to be her surger daddy short or long term! I can hear her now telling some sap that she is forced to work there because she had to run away from a man that beat her and the guy is going to say "aww honey you can stay with me I'll help you and give you anything you need" (because he's thinking with his dickk) Heck after the first time she cheated on me I would have been getting a lawyer.(Once that cow gets a taist of new grass it'll always want to hop the fence) Everyone has told you to put her behind you and beleive it or not this advice is not comming from guys that don't know your pain, it's coming from guys who's been there done that, or watched others suffer and look like idiots when it came to women.

If you put your hand on the stove and it burns you wouldn't you know not to try it again?

Mike

[KenC]

... in response to Need some honest advice, posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

David,
Your compassion for Natasha has backed your butt into a corner.  She suckered you into giving her the car back before.  How well did that go?  Did she live up to the promises she made at that time?  The very BEST thing for YOU is for her to go back to Moscow.  You are screwed if she stays here because of the police reports.  She will not hesitate to put your butt in jail.  Don't talk to her or her boyfriends.  Don't dwell on her problems as you have enough of your own.  She will survive just fine.  Close the door completely on her as you have exposed your own weakness when it comes to her.  Focus on what is good for David only.  If you can relocate, do so.  Don't walk away from her, RUN!
KenC

[Travis]

... in response to Need some honest advice, posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

David,

As I have said to you before, I am going through a simular situation. So I somewhat understand what is going on though I only know half the story. She made her choices in life and she has the responsibility to answer for those choices. It is not cold hearted for you to expect and demand that she be adult enough to answer for her mistakes. Do you need the financial liability of her remaining here? Do you need the continuous heartache that accompanies her presence here? I will give you one small piece of advice, take it or leave it. This old saying that time heals all wounds is a load of cr@p. Time doesn't heal all wounds, someone else does it for you...or at least helps you heal. In other words, cut her loose and find someone else! Between her and whomever you find in the future, evaluate yourself and try to discover what will make you happy and a better person...alone. If you can't be happy alone, you won't be happy with someone else. You say you were happy with her for a short time. Are you going to trade a lifetime of happiness for a short time? Or a few moments? You can find happiness with someone else if you try. BTW, stop being nice...we finish last. Get an attorney, divorce her and send her on her way! From the sound of it, she had a plan and it didn't go completely as she expected....too bad for her.