end and beginning........

[wsbill]

... in response to end and beginning........, posted by Mark H on May 13, 2002

Is call the dude up and ask him what happen.

My guess is she bolted.  (now that's just me).  What kind of a half-wit would get married in Russia and not do the 90 Day marriage visa trial period.

Heck, for all you know she slipped into the country via Mexico and she's gonna use you to shack up with...

If she won't let you talk with the other guy.  Well, just think.  You've never met this person - only e-mailed her and your going to let her walk into your life.

Keep us posted... So that when she dumps you and takes 1/2 of everything you've got and go on to the next guy, we can all chuckle about it.

[Mark H]

... in response to Re: What I would...before you even meet ..., posted by wsbill on May 14, 2002

You know WS Bill,
You just don't make sense. Recheck the dosage instructions on your lithium. Also, get a life. The concept of you sitting around "waiting to be posted" on other's lives indicates the lack of your own. What a geek.

Mark H.

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Re: What I would...before you even m..., posted by Mark H on May 14, 2002

Your in denial, because you are the party that this lady is calling on.

Had you gone and met this girl?  Not according to your post.

After 45 days this girl is already claiming abuse!  Because the guy keeps her at home.  Sounds to me this marriage was a sham and she's calling you for help!  Go ahead, bring her into your house...Somebody elses wife.  What do you think she'll be saying next.

Get real. LOL.

[Mark H]

... in response to Re: What makes you the foremost authorit..., posted by wsbill on May 14, 2002

Get real? Perhaps you should heed thine own advice. I've never claimed to be an expert Bill, you seem to. You don't know her story, just little tidbits. Yet you are calling her a scammer without knowing the story? Why? You seem very bitter, very bitter.

Based on a couple of posts you have tried and convicted her of being a scammer, lying, cheating, and that her marriage was a sham. I never said I was bringing her into my house, where did you get that from?

I think your post gives all those with a clue in life, what type of guy is out there soliciting FSU women. You're the classic nutbag these girls have to put up with. I could see your wife running before 6 weeks, I would.

Mark H.

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Re: What makes you the foremost auth..., posted by Mark H on May 14, 2002

I don't recall saying she was a scammer.  But that I took a very wide approach to what she was saying to you in a e-mail, and that you were posting/asking our opinion.

Call her Mark H.,

Why do you post a message, where in which with one phone call you can get all the facts.  Find out what Alabama town she is from and then contact the law enforcement there and hear from them or the social service people the gist of her complaint of spouse abuse.

But Nooooo.  You want to ask for OUR thoughts on this matter.

I know, before I would open my house up to a STRANGER, I would get the fact.

Hell for all you know is she just got out of prison with her kid and she married the first bus leaving Moscow for America.

If she thinks Alabama is bad, wait til she gets to San Antonio.  And see's all those Mexicans/Hispanics*, like 65% of the population, (the Russian ladies that I have met are  very racial, calling blacks bad things..{when we were walking in Kiev, she was very vocal as they walked past}).

You can bet she'll be thinking there needs to be a ocean around here...this is like the Crimea (hot) but without water.  That ole'sewage canal running through town is a real novelty, but it ain't an ocean.

And with you going off to work at the hospital everyday to leave her home alone, she'll be claiming abuse, too.  

She will no doubt, contact her friend a state away, and then contact a old e-mail aquaintence in San Diego, San Francisco or Los Angeles...

*in Alabama it was the high percentage Blacks she objected to.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Classic denial response..., posted by wsbill on May 14, 2002

The Russian girl goes to Alabama, experiences culture shock with an ethnic group she doesn't care for and hits the door right away.  Foreigners think Califonia is the place to be; that's what they have told me.  They don't wait long enough to figure out that the South is a good place to live, and vacationing on the beach of the Florida panhandle is a heck of a lot better than the beach on the west coast if you actually want to go in the water.    

I think this girl would also be surprised when she goes to California amd finds even more ethnic diversity.  Less than half the population in California is caucasian now.  Can you trust a girl that didn't even give the marriage 2 months of effort?  You can gather more evidence, but the preliminary stuff doesn't look good.  I think Bill is just talking common sense here.  She took advantage once, why be guinea pig number two.  

[Mark H]

... in response to I think Bill has some good points, posted by BubbaGump on May 15, 2002

First of all, Bill doesn't have any common sense.

It amazes me how people can distort words and come to weird conclusions. Where the heck is California coming from? No one has mentioned California? You also write "The Russian girl goes to Alabama, experiences culture shock with an ethnic group she doesn't care for and hits the door right away."  Where the heck did that come from?

This board amazes me.

Mark H.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: I think Bill has some good points, posted by Mark H on May 15, 2002

Mark, it is just common sense to avoid a girl in this situation. If you can't see that, I can't make you see it. These girls have incentive to claim abuse to stay in the USA.  The rules are set up that way now and all the women are supposed to be informed of that before they come over.  I think she took advantage of that.  You don't want to find yourself in the last guys position do you?  If a person has a bad past history, avoid a relationship with them.  

The comment about California was brought up by me because I have heard it from several immigrants.  They get the impression from movies that California is the greatest place to live and they have to move there.    

Bill and I and several others have both noticed that Russians don't like minorities at all.  There have been a lot of comments about that on this board.  If a Russian girl is uncomfortable with minorities, then there are a whole lot of places in the US they won't like and California is one of them.

[BarryM]

... in response to You're still in denial, posted by BubbaGump on May 16, 2002

I can relay to you the experience my Russian teacher had. She is in her sixties and doesn't offend anyone but she doesn't seem to get along with black people. She said that some black folks have been expecially offensive to her. They hate her accent and call her a Nazi along with other offensive words. She has experienced abusive behavior from blacks many times so she feels very uncomfortable and threatened around them. Some of this abuse she has experienced was on the bus she took to get around town. She finds Houston to be very unfriendly and is surprised that people are so horrible to each other.

She gets along with other ethic groups. When she was in Russia, she was friends with Jews, Tatars, Germans, Chechens, Muslims, and others. She has many Jewish Russian friends here in Houston.

There are Russians who dislike other ethnic groups and Russians who get along with just about anyone.

One thing that is important in get along with and the respect of Russians is to be polite and gracious with them. Some Americans are arrogant toward them and that upsets them and makes them feel uncomfortable. Avoid such behavior as much as possible. Often the language barrier can create a problem. The best thing is to have patience when they have trouble understanding you and don't make them feel nervous. I have met some absolutely brilliant Russian scientists who have difficulty speaking English. You would never know how brilliant they are unless you took the time to listen to them. Most Russians are highly educated and are far advanced in math and sciences than Americans. Those of you who married RW/UW with teenage children can attest to this. One newly immigrant child at my Church is 3 years ahead of her American peers in her studies. She is only 12.

-blm

[BubbaGump]

... in response to You're still in denial, posted by BubbaGump on May 16, 2002

I haven't read your bio in a long time and I thought you were from California.  I also thought you were much younger.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Classic denial response..., posted by wsbill on May 14, 2002


I feel I simply must speak up on behalf of San Antonio -- truly one of the coolest and undiscovered cities in the United States...

First off... Bill, why did you mention it? Mark H isn't from Texas, and isn't moving there when he passes his boards... so, why do you feel you need to mention San Antonio, of all places?

Secondly, I think it may be a bit of a broad brush to say that all Russian women are rascists.

Thirdly, in terms of population, I am quite sure that more African Americans live in Alabama than in San Antonio, so I am not sure what your point was... San Antonio has a large population of hard working Hispanic people... And I doubt that any Russian Woman would be presumtively prejudiced against them.

However, for all of you who are looking for a great place to spend a few days, I would like to highly recommend San Antonio. True, if you are a rascist you may not enjoy it... but the city is the ten largest cities in the US, and you would never know it by visiting.

It has wonderful character, and the Riverwalk downtown is one of the most romantic spots I can imagine (in a city) to walk with your lady. (TIP: Do a Priceline search for a hotel before you go. I regulary get a four star hotel on the riverwalk for $69 a night!)

Of course, the Alamo Shrine is there, and I highly reccommed that you see the IMAX movie "The Price of Freedom" before you tour the Alamo.  It will help put it in perspective. And don't skip the gift shop. There is an amazing model display in ther ethat really brings the sense of the Alamo home, I thought.

Not far from Downtown is Sea World, where the crowds are almost always much lower than you would expect. There are also Japanese gradens, and a wild animal park.

So... please... ignore WSBill's slurs on this fine city, and visit it for yourself...

Commercial Break over... we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...

[wsbill]

... in response to For The Record -- San Antonio, posted by MarkInTx on May 14, 2002

n/t.  I don't have any problems with people of color.  I've been to San Antonio, but my town of choice would be Corpus Christy or Austin.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Look at Mark H. profile sez he's fro..., posted by wsbill on May 14, 2002

Pay attention to his posts... he's in PA now...

[wsbill]

... in response to But he's not there now, and won't be, posted by MarkInTx on May 14, 2002

I respected him as a TEXAN...

but now........... I don't know.

(Thesearch sumed it up pretty well)

I don't know about you guys, but there are some hot looking and very nice american nurses in hospital!

Now who works going to work in a hospital ?

[Mark H]

... in response to Re: Oh Christ... HE's a YANKEE, posted by wsbill on May 14, 2002

You know dipshiit, you really should proof read your posts before you post them. Of course, that would insinuate you could actually read. You are certainly the lead dweeb.

Mark H.