Anyone need a good laugh....

[BrianN]

... in response to Zero Tolerance revisited, posted by thesearch on Mar 28, 2002

This makes perfect sense.  Why would any guy want to be with a woman that wasn't as nuts about him as he was about her... just makes me shudder in disbelief how some can drive headlong into a brick f'ng wall without looking.

There's a lot of dead one-sided relationship carcasses (or is it carci?) in this no mans land.  The proof is in the archives here.  

The lack of a Zero Tolerance rule for this, I think is what gets most men in trouble in this kind of venture.

[Zink]

... in response to Good Post, posted by BrianN on Mar 29, 2002

Speaking from experience it's sometimes hard to drag yourself out of a one sided relationship. There was usually some good times together that are hard to forget. And if sex was involved it really complcates things. Some people actually are emotionally involved when they have sex. It isn't just a mechanical act.

I think one of the biggest problems is that we fall in love with how we feel when we are with that person. It has nothing to do with the person and everything to do with how good it is not to be alone. It can happen anywhere, but I think it is even more dangerous with a RW. It's pretty easy to fall hard for a beautiful, sexy, exotic RW. Just the way they walk and talk can drive me crazy. And after a dance or two I'm completely lost.

But in my case once bitten, twice shy. I'm hoping not to make the same mistakes this time around.

[wsbill]

... in response to Zero Tolerance revisited, posted by thesearch on Mar 28, 2002

My biggest fault was that she was the first one to come along.  And I choose to over look some of the red flags that floated to the surface.  

I should have done as KenC said, terminate the relationship.

Guys she's a nice girl, check her out.
She just might be the one for you.  

I've got the G-325 forms for both her and the boy.

(Bear in mind they boy has a enlarged Thyroid due to Chernobyl).  But, I over looked that, too.  He's a nice boy (honest, just turned 5)

[KenC]

... in response to Anyone need a good laugh...., posted by wsbill on Mar 27, 2002

Bill,
You are one delusional son of a b---.  That terrible Russkie worked you for a WHOLE FOUR HUNDRED BUCKS! (over the last 6 months) LMAO!  She has to be the worst scammer in all of the FSU. (Only $66.67/month)  Let us review the facts:
You carry your sorry Hickazz over to Ukraine.
None of the girls you went to meet work out.
At the last minute, you meet, fall in lust, get engaged.
(the sex was great, but TOO great now)
Over the next 6+ months you:
Send her $300 to cover K-1 costs (That is equal to the cost of a couple decent dates in the real world)
Whine like a baby about an additional $100.(Another date cost wise)
Call her 12 times (just to show her how much you love her)LOL.
Now you call her a scammer because she isn't all fired up about living with you in a trailer, raising tomatoes in the middle of B.F.E.?  Give up on Ukrainian women and go call your cousin.
KenC

[Jeff]

... in response to I AM laughing now (at you), posted by KenC on Mar 28, 2002

I agree, if you are planning on spending the rest of your life with someone, $400 is nothing.  People don't realize how expensive the K-1 process is for the fiacee oversees.  For my wife every peice of paper cost something.  Then you have to pay for official translation and review of every document.  WSBill's heart certainly isn't in the right place.

[yoe]

... in response to I AM laughing now (at you), posted by KenC on Mar 28, 2002

I uh! Uh! well I am at a loss for words.........

[Jack]

... in response to WOW!, posted by yoe on Mar 29, 2002

Me two!

[BrianN]

... in response to I AM laughing now (at you), posted by KenC on Mar 28, 2002

Kee-rist.  I missed that.  I've spent 400 bucks in the last 3 months on phone calls alone.

sorry bill, no disrespect intended; at least you tried,  which says a lot more than most.

I wouldn't say she's necessarily a scammer, but maybe she just wasn't interested and was too afraid to tell you.  People are like that.

[wsbill]

... in response to 12 times?, posted by BrianN on Mar 29, 2002

She's a good girl, KenC is right on the money.

I should have let her go long ago.  I was the only guy who ever responded to her ad at the agency (according to her).

So I kind of felt a burden to take her in...She is a very, very nice girl, the time I spent with her were full of smiles and good times.  And the boy is a delight also.

[KenC]

... in response to Re: I formally withdraw the "scamme..., posted by wsbill on Mar 29, 2002

Bill,
I don't know what you and Irina had, but it wasn't love on your part for sure. I have no idea what it was for her because I have only heard your side.  When you are truly in love with someone, you never feel like you are doing them a favor.  The best relationships have two people that think they each "hit the jackpot".  While in love, you think about the person constantly and want to call her every other hour, not every other week.  Being with her (or in this case talking to her at least) is like getting your daily hit of a drug you cannot live without.  Being in love is about making her priority #1 in your life.  Expenses are not grudgingly met, you don't question what they are.  You do what ever you have to do to call or be with her.  And love is also about trust,  Sure you can question certain actions, but you also accept the explanations after they are given.  The saying about a fool in love is very applicable in this process.  That is why it is so dam easy for the RW to scam a man in love.  Irina could never have scammed you, because you never loved her.  Best of luck in finding your true love.
KenC

[Drew]

... in response to Fools in love, posted by KenC on Mar 29, 2002

n/t

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: I formally withdraw the "scamme..., posted by wsbill on Mar 29, 2002

and I like her too.  Sometimes things click... and other times, they just "mechanize", but never work out for the long term.

[wsbill]

... in response to I've seen this girl before..., posted by BrianN on Mar 29, 2002

I kid you not...  She knows it, too.

Heck, you've seen her.  You know where!  My dang website I had some pretty good pictures of her.

I'll give the scoop on her.  She doesn't like to wear dress, but prefers a set of brown wrangler jeans that are so tight it's a wonder the buttons just don't pop right off.

In that profile you will see two sets of nice clothes on her... I swear, those are the only sets of nice clothes she has!  (She wore the jeans when we went to her parents dacha and on a picnic/fishing trip).

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: It's those eyes of hers..... they'll..., posted by wsbill on Mar 29, 2002

it was somewhere else.  She fits exactly the profile of a woman that I've been looking for, over 30, WITH a child, preferably between 1-7 yo. (But I'm working with one that wrote me a while back now so).  

I ain't no fetish kind of dude, but she's got that "look", eyes, arms... (prefer larger, non-refugee looking arms - lol)... probably the only thing that would have turned me away a long time ago, was that she's a blondie.  My ex-gf was a (dirty) blondie type, and I didn't want to visit that again.  Very pretty though, the kind that gets under my skin and I'll very likely let her take control of all emotions.. akkkk, until it's my turn.

It may be Bill, that perhaps she's seen so many different guys that were interested, that she becomes more mechanized in a relationship, and has shut down her emotions, to protect herself from being hurt.  These kinds, are the most difficult to deal with.

I think some of us guys are a little too easy with our emotional involvement.  Trust first, ask questions later.  Rather, get killed later.

[yoe]

... in response to Anyone need a good laugh...., posted by wsbill on Mar 27, 2002

I still do not get it!
I do not see a 'scammer' profile. If she got second thougts or if she was getting money from other men or what ever-I do not see anything but plane ole' procrastination.
I sent my now wife-
$500-divorce papers
$100x24 week phone and expenses
$300 medical exam
$300 birthday and holdays
total=$3500 that does not include the money I paid for translations before we met!
Did it take a long time-yessssssssssss
were there delays-yesssssssss
What happens is there is a strong sense of paranoia.
more than that-many girls are ver nervous and have second thoughts-especially when AM take too long to make a move.
There are many parts to the puzzle.
How many times have you been to see her in the last 6 months or so. If anyone is really serious-they should not go more that 3 months without a visit. These girls also here horror stories. They do not know that we cannot be seeing other girls. Anyway, I see nothing but $400 sent. If that is your big problem, I feel that she believes that she has seen her value-$400.
Remember-they also have a lot to lose-but like us they want a strong and deliberate mate. That is the biggest problem with this scam thing. These girls come over and find that their 'men' are nothing like they were told. That big house was just a double wide! My wife still complains how poor people are in this country-she made much more money there that she is able to make here. She tells me occasionally to take my 'golden country' and shove it.
So I would be very intersted to see 'what was the scam"
Joe