The Value of Marriage ...

[fathertime]

  You seem to be gleeful at any hardship that would come to visit me. 

oh come on now zonny don't get so fussy!   If some true hardship came your way I would feel for you, the same I would for any small child.   In addition you are still human (somewhat), and I realize you have frailties    

And, then, you suggest that I have obvious errors and inabilities with women?!?  You assume that you have advanced knowledge and skill.   And, you kindly offer to assist / school me.   FT, no matter how "bad" life has gotten for me ... I am not in the need of taking advise from an Al Bundy look alike, whose been married 3+ times.

Oh so now just because I look worse than Al Bundy, I can't offer you anything that you don't already know.  That makes lots of sense!
Well if you want to be that 'narrow minded' it is your choice.  It just seems that you are a little overwhelmed by these foreign babes.  Yes maybe you need a little guidance, regarding how to be more attractive to marriage minded women.  You always DENY that is what you want, that is until you see a woman then all of a sudden a great change comes over you.  Well for starters you have a case of denial you need some help with!

 

I don't attempt to TEACH on topics in which I have little experience!  That does not mean I can think and talk about issues.  You seem to see this topic as hallowed ground?!?  HOWEVER, increasingly, I feel no NEED to become married myself.  I already had a young love.  It did not work out.  Most men, it seems to me, are not particularly happy as a result of marriage (maybe 30 50 %) - it does produce less loneliness, and wives are good at keeping men busy.

Given the crappy attitude you have now, who knows what has brought you to this point.  I have a hard time believing you had much positive going in any marriages you might have had.  I look back and am grateful for what I had with women in the past and keep a good enough attitude going forward.  Again, NOBODY CARES, if you wanna get married or not.  It is like Researcher said a few years ago, you are having your middle age crisis here.  I suggest you get over it, a lot of us rather enjoy marriage, if you don't that is your unhappy limitation!!

Fathertime! 

[Zon]

Again, NOBODY CARES, if you wanna get married or not.  It is like Researcher said a few years ago, you are having your middle age crisis here.  I suggest you get over it, a lot of us rather enjoy marriage,

Nobody cares?  Prove it.

Next time I offer an observation on any given topic, just shut the f$ck up.  Treat whatever I say as an utterance on a discussion board, and give it the same weight as any other (or lack thereof).  No need to call me names, or insult.  No need to start a whisper campaign.  No need for you to try and fill in the blanks on my life.

Are you capable of seeing how odd your behavior has been towards me?

[fathertime]

Nobody cares?  Prove it.

Next time I offer an observation on any given topic, just shut the f$ck up.  Treat whatever I say as an utterance on a discussion board, and give it the same weight as any other (or lack thereof).  No need to call me names, or insult.  No need to start a whisper campaign.  No need for you to try and fill in the blanks on my life.

Are you capable of seeing how odd your behavior has been towards me?

I like to counter certain''observations", so I think I will comment if I feel like commenting.   It seems you are rather 'narrow minded' when it comes to disagreements.  What is the big deal? 
 Now remember the ''ignore button'' that you gleefully wrote about a few weeks ago.  It is always available to you. 


Oh and yes NOBODY CARES if you get married!


Fathertime! 

[htown]

Hey zon I don't care if you want to get married or not, but I do care about learning how to become an international playboy.  Why don't you shed some light on that subject instead, since that's where your expertise seems to be.

[Fuzzyone]

Hey zon I don't care if you want to get married or not, but I do care about learning how to become an international playboy.  Why don't you shed some light on that subject instead, since that's where your expertise seems to be.

  Well he kinda failed at that to, that is why is is back in the states his porn empire just did not work out in S.A.

[Fuzzyone]

Nobody cares?  Prove it.

Next time I offer an observation on any given topic, just shut the f$ck up.  Treat whatever I say as an utterance on a discussion board, and give it the same weight as any other (or lack thereof).  No need to call me names, or insult.  No need to start a whisper campaign.  No need for you to try and fill in the blanks on my life.

Are you capable of seeing how odd your behavior has been towards me?

   Wow I see a pattern here first you offer a observation on something you yourself have very little knowledge about, then when questioned you beat your chest then then you post something you found on the internet claiming it was yours then and then you start to act like a school girl. You complain you whine you charge one man or another of a unhealthy attraction for you.


    Is it not strange you just don't take off like your buddy did? You like the attention don't you? you little silly boy you know we like you thats why we trip you in the hall and call you donkey teeth.....

[Zon]

I presume you are able to read accurately.   Stop with the baseless argumentation you moronicASS.

Wow I see a pattern here first you offer a observation on something you yourself have very little knowledge about, then when questioned you beat your chest then then you post something you found on the internet claiming it was yours then and then you start to act like a school girl.

Did I break some FatherTime / FuzzyOne rule with the original post.  Go back and read it.  Did it really offend you guys.  Did I insult your marriages, your wives, your families?   REALLY?!?!?

It was simply intended to stimulate discussion on an internet discussion board.  WTF!   What is your real agenda?  There are many members here that PM me privately and suggest jealousy.    Personally, I think you both are trying to make yourselves happier by convincing yourselves of something. I am very sure that we would not like each other in person, and I can happily live with that.  Or do you want to continue imagining that this is a bar room slug fest?

[fathertime]

I presume you are able to read accurately.   Stop with the baseless argumentation you moronicASS.

Did I break some FatherTime / FuzzyOne rule with the original post.  Go back and read it.  Did it really offend you guys.  Did I insult your marriages, your wives, your families?   REALLY?!?!?

It was simply intended to stimulate discussion on an internet discussion board.  WTF!   What is your real agenda?  There are many members here that PM me privately and suggest jealousy.    Personally, I think you both are trying to make yourselves happier by convincing yourselves of something. I am very sure that we would not like each other in person, and I can happily live with that.  Or do you want to continue imagining that this is a bar room slug fest?

Jealous of a childless 50 year old that doesn't garner enough respect to get to 1^st base with the Latinas round the world? Bwahahah

I go after the points you attempt to make in part because I think YOU are completely irresponsible.  In addition I think you omit the truth when it forwards whatever point you try to make.   


Fathertime! 

[Fuzzyone]

I presume you are able to read accurately.   Stop with the baseless argumentation you moronicASS.

Did I break some FatherTime / FuzzyOne rule with the original post.  Go back and read it.  Did it really offend you guys.  Did I insult your marriages, your wives, your families?   REALLY?!?!?

It was simply intended to stimulate discussion on an internet discussion board.  WTF!   What is your real agenda?  There are many members here that PM me privately and suggest jealousy.    Personally, I think you both are trying to make yourselves happier by convincing yourselves of something. I am very sure that we would not like each other in person, and I can happily live with that.  Or do you want to continue imagining that this is a bar room slug fest?

   Why would I like to meet you in person? When I was 20 and in the navy I might have hung out with you for a little while until I realized what kind of person you really are. The only problem is and will be is I have grown up while you have not. You have this fixation on men that are married like a disease.


   Yea I have many members that pm me also they mention stuff to find on the internet about your little ideas, they most just tell me to keep laying it to your ass because I repeat because you are a pompous ass that just likes the attention.

[Ray]

It was simply intended to stimulate discussion on an internet discussion board.
 

 
Hey zon, I have a suggestion for you...
 
Instead of boring us all to death with your incessant rants against marriage, why don't you try to stimulate discussion on a NEW topic for a change?
 
Once again, NOBODY CARES IF YOU NEVER GET MARRIED!
 
   
 
 
 

[htown]

Yea zon why do you go on and on with this boring, lame, anti-marriage crap when you're living the dream as an international playboy? 


I'd MUCH rather hear about jetting around the globe, partying with pornstars, and all these beautiful sophisticated women you sleep with.  Why don't you ever talk about the good stuff?  Is there another board where you post about these things?

[Zon]

Yea zon why do you go on and on with this boring, lame, anti-marriage crap when you're living the dream as an international playboy? 

I'd MUCH rather hear about jetting around the globe, partying with pornstars, and all these beautiful sophisticated women you sleep with.  Why don't you ever talk about the good stuff?  Is there another board where you post about these things?

Marriage - the urge to become married, have children and a family - seems to me to be a blessing to a minority of men who do it.  Some men do it many, many times.  Their entire lives (financial, emotional, psychological) is consumed by a need to mate, and in some sense to share / possess the opposite sex.    It's great and beautiful thing when it works out.  HOWEVER, what is it that makes a man go against his better judgement?  I think and write about this from time to time, and this little corner of the internet, is a place where sometimes views can become sharpened.

Just as marriage can become commonplace, so to can life in the fast lane.   There is not escape from discontentment. It is human nature to take for granted that which we possess. 

[Researcher]

Chasing hoes internationally isn't much different than running after the local skanks. You just have to set yourself apart from the herd of pursuers. Women go for that pretty easy or at least it gets their attention. Then it's just a matter of setting the hook and reeling them in. Take a few trophy photos before you throw them back. Doing it internationally is easier. Being a foreigner already gives you an advantage on setting yourself apart from the herd of local playboys and the foreign skanks are usually more attractive. Put yourself in the right place at the right time and you can be set up pretty good in no time. Being a foreigner already gives you a leg up on the competition and it doesn't take as much dough to fake being successful in a third world country. It is more like shooting fish in a barrel. But if you are looking for a serious long term relationship that is a different story.

[Fuzzyone]

Marriage - the urge to become married, have children and a family - seems to me to be a blessing to a minority of men who do it.  Some men do it many, many times.  Their entire lives (financial, emotional, psychological) is consumed by a need to mate, and in some sense to share / possess the opposite sex.    It's great and beautiful thing when it works out.  HOWEVER, what is it that makes a man go against his better judgement?  I think and write about this from time to time, and this little corner of the internet, is a place where sometimes views can become sharpened.

Just as marriage can become commonplace, so to can life in the fast lane.   There is not escape from discontentment. It is human nature to take for granted that which we possess. 

   See Zon guys here get a little tired of hearing your opinion about marriage in fact it gets old only because you dig up stuff that really has nothing to do with us!


    You set yourself apart from the rest of us only because the type of woman you chase.

[Zon]

Chasing hoes internationally isn't much different than running after the local skanks. You just have to set yourself apart from the herd of pursuers. Women go for that pretty easy or at least it gets their attention. Then it's just a matter of setting the hook and reeling them in. Take a few trophy photos before you throw them back. Doing it internationally is easier. Being a foreigner already gives you an advantage on setting yourself apart from the herd of local playboys and the foreign skanks are usually more attractive. Put yourself in the right place at the right time and you can be set up pretty good in no time. Being a foreigner already gives you a leg up on the competition and it doesn't take as much dough to fake being successful in a third world country. It is more like shooting fish in a barrel. But if you are looking for a serious long term relationship that is a different story. 

First time I agree with your post.   Peacocking, or travelling "chasing hoes" is a gimmick.    It can get most men a 9 and 10 - but, most smart men would not want them in the first place (after a night or two, of course).

[Zon]

See Zon guys here get a little tired of hearing your opinion about marriage in fact it gets old only because you dig up stuff that really has nothing to do with us!

You set yourself apart from the rest of us only because the type of woman you chase.

US! US! US!  What is this the "Happy Wives Club" - with a membership of 4 or 5 LOL

There are as many men that travel and date and live as there are men that travel for the express purpose of finding a wife and the speed of light - and hopefully, being happy ever after.

Different types of women?  Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. 

I know of several occasions where a man has married a woman with, what some would call a compromised background.  I doubt the man ever knew.  Many of these situations end up being happy.  So, who's to say?  (of course, this is precisely the kind of information that irritates many ears here.  why ...   Let's let sleeping dogs lie)

[fathertime]

    There is not escape from discontentment.

Strange you have such a miserable view on life.  For me,  I’m rather satisfied in many different states.   You must have an unhappy nature so it is best you continue to remain alone. 

Marriage - the urge to become married, have children and a family - seems to me to be a blessing to a minority of men who do it.  Some men do it many, many times.  Their entire lives (financial, emotional, psychological) is consumed by a need to mate, and in some sense to share / possess the opposite sex.    It's great and beautiful thing when it works out.  HOWEVER, what is it that makes a man go against his better judgement?  I think and write about this from time to time, and this little corner of the internet,

It is understandable that you would NOW pretend to hold this point of view since you have already thrown snake eyes and pretty much past the point where you could start having kids and participating in their upbringing especially given your current habits.  You are just lacking in too many areas.  Trying to minimize, and distort helps you keep the discontentment away for a few minutes.  The reality is the few times a woman offered herself up to you, you jumped like a trained seal, but ultimately your nature came out and you were rejected. 

    You are free to chase hoe’s  and wax ‘profoundly’ and imply this lifestyle is just as worthwhile as the next.   The reality is you have GIVEN UP, and this is PLAN B.

Fathertime!
 

[Zon]

You are free to chase hoe’s  and wax ‘profoundly’ and imply this lifestyle is just as worthwhile as the next.   The reality is you have GIVEN UP, and this is PLAN B.

"Hoes," is all the name calling necessary?!?  ALL THE TIME.  I know many women that are sexual liberated: some are smart and educated and cool; others are adult celebrities and high class hookers.   I prefer to think of them as men without cocks. But anyway ...

You are right.  I am Plan B.  As you like to note, I am close to 50.  I have had my chances with a "young love."  That is not realistic anymore.

Nothing wrong with My Plan B!  I am going to make it the best Plan B possible.   

AND perhaps this is a good point to suggest that we are ALL on a Plan B, aren't we?  Is that not what most of this should be about anyway?

[fathertime]

"Hoes," is all the name calling necessary?!?  ALL THE TIME.  I know many women that are sexual liberated: some are smart and educated and cool; others are adult celebrities and high class hookers.   I prefer to think of them as men without cocks. But anyway ...

You are right.  I am Plan B.  As you like to note, I am close to 50.  I have had my chances with a "young love."  That is not realistic anymore.

enjoy those high class hookers then, if that is what you want.  i'm not buying that scads 20-25 year old women are going to be hanging out with you unless there is a form of payment, so i'm sure you will have the wallet and translator in tow.    

as you well know NOBODY CARES about whether you marry or not!


Fathertime!   

[SkyNorth]

Zon & FT...I might be on plan C.  I would rather settle down with a 35 plus plus YO.  But in Latin & Phil culture they already have 2-3 children by then.  There are a few out there but it seems like 35 Plus W/O kids and she's maybe a little loco.




Plan C is to find a nice sane female on this planet that is cute.  And laffs at my bad jokes.




You guys play fair, no name calling!!!

[V_Man]

Zon & FT...I might be on plan C.  I would rather settle down with a 35 plus plus YO.  But in Latin & Phil culture they already have 2-3 children by then.  There are a few out there but it seems like 35 Plus W/O kids and she's maybe a little loco.




Plan C is to find a nice sane female on this planet that is cute.  And laffs at my bad jokes.




You guys play fair, no name calling!!!

Personally I like a little loca. It is las muchas locas that I try to avoid. Which was what I mostly found in my own locale.


As I have said before, marriage is an extremely risky thing for a male in the western world.


As I have also said before, this is what I have done. If a guy wants to do the same, I will help you but I am in no way recommending it and I am in no way implying you will get a similar outcome. Ask me in 30 years if I made a good decision. I may have formed an opinion by then. We'll see.


Right now, I found an amazing woman. We married and I am in heart and sole. Boots'n all. Good and bad. For me there is no half way.
If the next guy doesn't want to be so reckless then I certainly don't fault him for it.
Far from it.
There aint nothing rational, safe, logical or reasonable about it.
If fact, lads, don't do it.
If you really must do it, move to her country first.
Don't do what I have done. It is a bloody stupid idea.


For some reason I sure am happy with my bloody stupid decision though!!! 

[Researcher]

I think being a player in a third world country is like shooting fish in a barrel. It isn't that difficult. Marrying one of these ladies is little more challenging simply because marriage can be a challenge. I think marriage to a colombiana, or any other foreign woman, isn't as big of a challenge as marrying a US woman. Generally speaking of course. Any woman that is willing to try to make a marriage work is easier to be married to no matter where she is from. Other cultures are more "marriage friendly" than the US. That is clear.

If a guy wants to be a player in a 3rd world country that is nothing to brag about in my opinion.

[htown]

If a guy wants to be a player in a 3rd world country that is nothing to brag about in my opinion.

What about a guy who wants to be a player in a 1st world country?  Would that be something to brag about?

[Fuzzyone]

enjoy those high class hookers then, if that is what you want.  i'm not buying that scads 20-25 year old women are going to be hanging out with you unless there is a form of payment, so i'm sure you will have the wallet and translator in tow.    

as you well know NOBODY CARES about whether you marry or not!


Fathertime!   

  That is plan B throw lots of money at them and B.S. them into thinking you are really something stateside other than a broken down salesman that had to take up porn because all the other ventures went tits up!

[whitey]

I think being a player in a third world country is like shooting fish in a barrel. It isn't that difficult. Marrying one of these ladies is little more challenging simply because marriage can be a challenge. I think marriage to a colombiana, or any other foreign woman, isn't as big of a challenge as marrying a US woman. Generally speaking of course. Any woman that is willing to try to make a marriage work is easier to be married to no matter where she is from. Other cultures are more "marriage friendly" than the US. That is clear.

I'm in agreement with you there, Researcher ... so far our challenges have been travelling, learning Spanish, dealing with the distance in between trips, and now learning English.  But apart from being apart for up to 5 months at a time, everything else was fun and a growth experience ... not necessarily easy or inexpensive ... but fun!