stay en los angeles or go to bogota?

[rocket]

Well gents I have been reading this for site for years and never write. I have been going to colombia for 7 years. Been to Bogota, Medellin. Pereira. Cali, Bucaramunga. and Venezuela, Panama for 1 day. So I have alot of experience and get a laugh out of the arguments you gentlemen have about mongering and the good men that are looking for a long term relationship.
I have tried both to tell the truth. I started out by using latin american  cupid. I was 49 years old when I first went to Colombia . I am now 55. I am 6 ft 5 , 245 lbs . white guy born in Los Angeles.

I have a ticket to Bogota this november 29th. I always go for the Holidays.I love celebrating Christmas with a Beautiful girl.  I Really love the older girls I see in the stores and Gran Estacion in Bogota. But they are so hard to get to know.. So I always end up with a young girl. 19 years old 22 years At least 50 young ladies. I once stayed with a 19 year old in medellin. She had her own apartment. Found out right away she wanted me to pay the rent which was only 200 bucks a month 2 bedroom 2 bath .  with balcony. .. I also went to a finca with a 19 year old blond beauty. with a 2 year old.  Been to many a family presenting their  young daughter to me .

My delema this year is I met a young lady in downtown los angeles . You see this city is filled with young latinas, that come here via Coyotes. Thats another story. some times there will be 25 girls just in from Mexico. Hunduras, . The girl I choose was from San Salvador.   I would visit her once a week. just for fun she was only 17 I found out.I speak pretty good spanish. Also found out from her sister in the same club says  that she had a 1 year old girl at the time I met her.  The story is she got raped by a coyote but still had the baby. Does not get any help from the government.
needless to say the truma she sustained was very apparent, I was only a friend for her ,never trying to take advantage of her. I was treating her like the daughter I never had. Everytime I went to the club she would wait for me. So I would be loyal to her and always only choose her. Needless to say their were alot of mexican cartel men trying to get to her. Now 2 years later she quits  the club and calls me. Tell s me she does not want to work there anymore.  So I start picking her up at her apartment she shares with her sister. and start taking her out to places where they have Nice young men. Huntington Beach, Chiles restaurant , Belmont Shore.  But she never wants to talk to any young guys.  Guys she is a knockout. and the way she dresses you know, Tight jeans High heals. red lip stick. everyone thinks I am her dad. Little do they know.   The problem is with this economy Most guys not playing pro sports are broke. So they cant do anything..No game or confidence. So today she text me telling me she wants to be my novia. she is now 20 years old. .I am supposed to leave for Bogota en 8 days. . Wow I dont want to hurt her, But I also dont want to let the girl I have been seeing in bogota down also. and the blond girl in medellin. These pictures are from 2 years ago at a finca in medellin. 7 days 20 bucks a day 2 story. the whole family came with us. Had a pool great time.   Guys what do you think I should do?.   I know its crazy buts these are the times we live in right?   Rocky

[benjio]

Well gents I have been reading this for site for years and never write. I have been going to colombia for 7 years. Been to Bogota, Medellin. Pereira. Cali, Bucaramunga. and Venezuela, Panama for 1 day. So I have alot of experience and get a laugh out of the arguments you gentlemen have about mongering and the good men that are looking for a long term relationship.
I have tried both to tell the truth. I started out by using latin american  cupid. I was 49 years old when I first went to Colombia . I am now 55. I am 6 ft 5 , 245 lbs . white guy born in Los Angeles.

I have a ticket to Bogota this november 29th. I always go for the Holidays.I love celebrating Christmas with a Beautiful girl.  I Really love the older girls I see in the stores and Gran Estacion in Bogota. But they are so hard to get to know.. So I always end up with a young girl. 19 years old 22 years At least 50 young ladies. I once stayed with a 19 year old in medellin. She had her own apartment. Found out right away she wanted me to pay the rent which was only 200 bucks a month 2 bedroom 2 bath .  with balcony. .. I also went to a finca with a 19 year old blond beauty. with a 2 year old.  Been to many a family presenting their  young daughter to me .

My delema this year is I met a young lady in downtown los angeles . You see this city is filled with young latinas, that come here via Coyotes. Thats another story. some times there will be 25 girls just in from Mexico. Hunduras, . The girl I choose was from San Salvador.   I would visit her once a week. just for fun she was only 17 I found out.I speak pretty good spanish. Also found out from her sister in the same club says  that she had a 1 year old girl at the time I met her.  The story is she got raped by a coyote but still had the baby. Does not get any help from the government.
needless to say the truma she sustained was very apparent, I was only a friend for her ,never trying to take advantage of her. I was treating her like the daughter I never had. Everytime I went to the club she would wait for me. So I would be loyal to her and always only choose her. Needless to say their were alot of mexican cartel men trying to get to her. Now 2 years later she quits  the club and calls me. Tell s me she does not want to work there anymore.  So I start picking her up at her apartment she shares with her sister. and start taking her out to places where they have Nice young men. Huntington Beach, Chiles restaurant , Belmont Shore.  But she never wants to talk to any young guys.  Guys she is a knockout. and the way she dresses you know, Tight jeans High heals. red lip stick. everyone thinks I am her dad. Little do they know.   The problem is with this economy Most guys not playing pro sports are broke. So they cant do anything..No game or confidence. So today she text me telling me she wants to be my novia. she is now 20 years old. .I am supposed to leave for Bogota en 8 days. . Wow I dont want to hurt her, But I also dont want to let the girl I have been seeing in bogota down also. and the blond girl in medellin. These pictures are from 2 years ago at a finca in medellin. 7 days 20 bucks a day 2 story. the whole family came with us. Had a pool great time.   Guys what do you think I should do?.   I know its crazy buts these are the times we live in right?   Rocky

Rocket,
 
Welcome to the board and thanks for sharing your story. Get ready for the $hit storm of judgement that will follow this post as it's almost sure to come. The only aspect of your tale I find questionable is that you're giving me the impression you were going to a "club" to visit and date a 17 year old girl a few years back. That's 1 year short of the legal age of consent in California, not to mention pretty immoral in my book. I'm obviously making the assumption that it wasn't just a friendship, so please correct me if I'm wrong. If I were you I wouldn't be throwing that tidbit of information around willy-nilly as what you post on public forums can most definitely be used against you in a court of law. Statute of limitations for indecency with a minor in that state is 8 years. Just a word of advice.
 
So let's get realistic here. Your post is kind of all over the place, so correct me if any of the assumption I make are wrong. First off, you're 55 and this girl in L.A. is 20. I don't know you or her, but that within itself brings on the potential for all types of issues in the future should you choose to be with her. If you've been reading this forum for as long as you say you have, I don't have to write why as you've probably already read it a dozen times before. You mentioned she worked in a club...so I'm assuming you're speaking of either a strip club or one of the hundreds of underground brothels in Southern California that take advantage of underage women that are illegal immigrants. Again, plenty of past posts that discuss the risks associated with dating an ex-"working girl." No need for me to repeat them. You also say that "most guys not playing pro sports are broke," which I don't agree with, but I know where you're coming from. This leads me to believe that financial stability for her and her son is her primary motivation for wanting to be with you. That's definitely not the basis for a healthy relationship. If you think a younger guy with more money will never come along and show interest in her, I need to come to California because I could really clean up out there. jeje.
 
So just taking those three things into consideration, not to mention a lot of subtle hints you give me that makes this situation even more dangerous, what do you think you should do? I say keep your plans to go to Colombia. Especially if you've already invested money in travel arrangements. You're obviously still hunting and there's nothing wrong with that. You have a potential girl in California, and two in Colombia. Why cut anyone off now? Keep your options open. I'm guessing this isn't a guilt problem for you as you wouldn't have given three different women the impression that you were building relationships with them in the first place. Might as well keep it up and see what pans out with time.
 
 

[Researcher]

   Rocket,  Decisions, decisions....Go to Colombia. I don't know what you are looking for but it is usually best to stay away from damsels in distress.

[rocket]

Thanks your right. If I was having a sexual relationship with here while she was 17 then i would be in trouble. But like I said she is like my daughter I never had . any sexual contact with her till this day.  I met her and then found out thru her sister the story about her. 
keep it coming gents. For over 2 years I was only seeing her in whats called a hostess club . It is not a strip club. The men pay 30 busks an hour to sit with a girl that has Television. dancing to latin music and a pool area. The place has 3 floors.  she quit the club about 3 months ago She is Now 20 years old. I know its crazy but these girls are in a very bad situation. and Yes if things  were normal  she would have a guy her age.  Another thing She has a social security number.  She would be a good catch for a young guy.  But here in los angeles its very hard.

[Researcher]

   If she has a SS# is there any chance she could find a job? I know people do it everyday but getting into a relationship because of one's life situation isn't the best thing to do.


    Researcher

[michaelb]

A distressed, under age illegal, with a kid and a forged/stolen SS#....don't sound like a good catch for anybody of any age to me. If you're smart, you'll move to a new apartment and not tell her the address.....and hope like hell that she doesn't hook up with some help the 'abused women' do-gooder organization that tells her how easy it would be to 'get legal' if she points the finger at you......Run, run, as fast as you can.

[benjio]

Thanks your right. If I was having a sexual relationship with here while she was 17 then i would be in trouble. But like I said she is like my daughter I never had . any sexual contact with her till this day.  I met her and then found out thru her sister the story about her. 
keep it coming gents. For over 2 years I was only seeing her in whats called a hostess club . It is not a strip club. The men pay 30 busks an hour to sit with a girl that has Television. dancing to latin music and a pool area. The place has 3 floors.  she quit the club about 3 months ago She is Now 20 years old. I know its crazy but these girls are in a very bad situation. and Yes if things  were normal  she would have a guy her age.  Another thing She has a social security number.  She would be a good catch for a young guy.  But here in los angeles its very hard.

Okay...yeah, I've read about these Hostess Clubs here on PL. I think it was H-Town that mentioned them first because I think they have the same kind of thing in Houston. My apologies for the confusion with you sleeping with her underage, my recommendation stands firm though. I would move on.

[Brazilophile]

A distressed, under age illegal, with a kid and a forged/stolen SS#....don't sound like a good catch for anybody of any age to me. If you're smart, you'll move to a new apartment and not tell her the address.....and hope like hell that she doesn't hook up with some help the 'abused women' do-gooder organization that tells her how easy it would be to 'get legal' if she points the finger at you......Run, run, as fast as you can.

That would be my very strong advice as well, if I was CERTAIN that the original poster was legitimate with a true  story.

My spider sense is tingling something fierce.  I have very strong suspicions that this thread is an entrapment attempt by an organization that 'helps' abused women.   

[mudd]

first, a guy 55 hanging around with a girl 17 in california that is not related in some way, bad news even if you never did anything. its just creepy and weird.




second, you need to date older women, any girl under 25 at your age is only looking for $$$$, you should know this by now... i hope


third, sounds like this girl is a mess, and is  illegal...move on. i would be running for the hills.

[Ray]

Another thing She has a social security number.
 

 
Who's SSN does she have? Is she an identity thief?
 
 
Ray
 
 

[Bob_S]

Rocket,
What to do depends on what you are looking for in a relationship.  I see plenty of reasons to stay with the hostess club girl.  Let's face it: she's hawt, ready, willing, and able.  She's 20 now, of legal age, and a sweet sweet piece of knob-polishing lusciousness.  And if you're just looking for someone to scratch your itch, she is perfect for the job.  But that is all she will ever be to you.  All things being equal, you know she'd never choose you, but it is not a relationship of equals.  She has very little life experience, and what she does have comes from a sad situation of cut-throat survivalism.  She is big time Trouble and comes with a load of heavy baggage (with a lot of legal problems should they ever come to light!).  You will never respect her or fully trust her.  And if you are looking for a wife, you need someone you truly respect and absolutely trust with your life and your fortune.  Take off your shining armor, and stop looking for damsels in distress.  Distressed damsels are only interested in you as long as they are in distress.  You can find a woman who loves you for who you are, not just for what you can do for them (which involves breaking some of that So. Cal. dating training many of us have had).  Let us know how your trip to Bogota goes.

[htown]

@Benjio, yes our fair city has the taxi dance/hostess setup type places where you pay to chat and dance with the pretty young latinas.  I call them cantinas.  I like them because they serve beer after 2am haha!




I"m not sure why everybody is saying such negative things about Rocket's situation with the salvadorean girl.  There are alot of salvadorean girls where I live and omg many of them are gorgeous.


So what if she's young?  If Rocket is happy and she's happy that's all that matters.


So what if she's "distressed"?  Isn't that the whole reason guys even come to this board?  So we can figure out how to leverage our gringo assets to get the most out of "distressed" women.


Who gives a flying flip if she's "illegal"?!!  Gtfoh!!





@Rocket   Do whatever feels right for you.  Personally I'd say stick with the chick in LA and see what happens with that relationship.  Colombia will always be there.  So will skype and western union jaja!

[benjio]

@Benjio, yes our fair city has the taxi dance/hostess setup type places where you pay to chat and dance with the pretty young latinas.  I call them cantinas.  I like them because they serve beer after 2am haha!

They do at Ruchi's too. Go and ask for a Mexican Coffee if you want beer. Ask for a Mexican Milk Shake if you want a frozen Margarita. LMAO!!!!
 

Colombia will always be there.  So will skype and western union jaja!

HA HA HA!!!

[rocket]

Thanks for the Info guys. Yesterday she called me and I dicieted to pick her up. She comes out  with her baby and tells me to take her baby to the sitter. Baby is very healthy and cute.  Gets in the back seat of my Tuarus without a baby seat.    Lucky my windows are tinted.
I decide to take her to a Mexican restaurant named Stevens, Has salsa lessons on Wednesdays. She really got a laugh out of the gringos trying to learn Salsa.  Then she asked me if I dance Salsa and I explained that My generation used to dance Disco music with much the same moves.  Boy those were the days.  I am going to tell her that I am going away to visit family.  I dont want to tell her about my going to Colombia.  Alot of the young guys asked me for permicion  bailar con ella, and she declined their invitations. mmmmmm.  anyways Took her Home at 10 PM. Picked up her sweat hija .    shes good company.  To tell you the truth if I was younger I would have jumped her already. But I dont even have that kind of drive .anymore.

[rocket]

Oh  guys . Like I said I been reading this forum for some time. You can look it up. But anyway I always read how these girls will change as soon as they get off the plane. Well Guess what Not this girl. She has been here 3 years.  First the music?  I always put on pop music to see the responce.  At first she is just listening. Never ask to change the channel. Now after about 2 months, shes singing to the music trying to in english. But as soon as I put on the spanish station, shes now very happy. Even that discusting Banda music from Mexico . and english? shes not even close to learning any.

Dress?  She still dresses  the way she did in her country Nothing different. The bright colors. Tight jeans, High heals. Mini skirts with nylons YES Nylons.  When I take her to the mall She doesnt like anything. But she will go to centro los angeles and buy the clothes sold by the mexican stores .

Food?  she doesnt like beans. frioles. No hamburgers. No McDonalds.  NO milk. .  still the same old nothing food they have en cental and south america.  But its good because she doesnt get fat. Even after having a baby there are no stretch marks on her stomach. perfect body.

American young guys? or men in general Well its hard to to say?  Shes doesnt appear to like anyone. I take her out and she doesnt even look.
The city rich people and fancy cars all over?  Not interested. Doesnt look or care. Although she says she wants a chevy 4  cylinder.  You know the taxi car.

How about a future? what does she want to be?  She says a Nurse.  Now thats good. But just like her country they all want to be nurses.

President Obama Nope.  Romney nope.

I take her to a High school football game!!  Cheerleaders are very pretty and happy she says, and the girls are so flirty. Football? Not interested. but soccer she watches.

Beach ?  I take her. and all the girls are looking at her because of the way she dresses. The Guys love her and ask me whats up. And since she doesnt understand a thing I tell them make  a  move shes single. and from San Salvador. And they say Wow but shes white. 

They dont change much NOW do they?

[SkyNorth]

Rock...do what makes you happy.  But there are RED FLAGS everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Don't pretend that you haven't noticed them, BECAUSE your asking us for advice means you see the flags plain as Day.   I wish you my best and good luck on your decision.

[rocket]

This is Luisa in Medellin She is helping the kids in the barrios.

[Gato4Astrid]

Rock...do what makes you happy.  But there are RED FLAGS everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Don't pretend that you haven't noticed them, BECAUSE your asking us for advice means you see the flags plain as Day.   I wish you my best and good luck on your decision.

He must be colour blind!!

[robert angel]

Cut your losses.  Go Wally World instead.  I hear it's open this time and that the Griswold family is going too.  Should be festive!

[htown]

He must be colour blind!!

Lmao!!!!






Ok we get it rocket, you're just a major player.  An old major player, which makes it even more impressive.  You're working with some serious hotties that's for sure. 


But if you came to this board for validation you're probably not gonna get it. 


Me and maybe Calipro are probably the only guys who would give you props for what you've got going on.

[V_Man]

You are an old player and you want advice on what to do. What is the issue? You are a player so play. I don't see what the question is.

If you made it clearer what your objective was then perhaps I might be able to see what the question is.

You are 55 and you have 3 hotties who are more than 30 years younger than you. You have been doing something similar for 7 years. I assume from what you have written, you are happy doing it. Your question is, should you go to Bogota? You said you have a lie prepared to explain your absence, because you "don't want to hurt" the girl in LA. Let me put it this way, why wouldn't you go to Bogota? Nothing in your story would make me think you had a reason to do anything different.

[bcc_1_2]

Definitely do what you want but a "daughter" is not your equal. From what I read you'd like to grow up and date a more mature hottie. I think you are a bit uncomfortable going after a woman that is age appropriate. From what I read you have trouble approaching them. A real player can pick up the 35 year old lawyer and not just the young uneducated chica with kids.
It is far harder to chase the girls with options. My friend found that out in Mexico City. recently.

[Ray]

 
 
 
 

[defenderofzon]

Go to Colombia, and in your spare time while you are at home hang out with the young girl, since you two enjoy each others company so much.  If you do not, ten years from now you will regret it.
I always have one or two hot young women in the states that I hang with when I am not in Colombia.  Best of both worlds.  Most here can not pull it off like me and you, thus the judgements. If they could they would be right there with you-

[Gato4Astrid]

Rocket


Your granddaughter and great grandson look good in the photo