To those who've used Jamie's agency .... Latin-Wife

[Kevin Banks]

  So the photo contained a woman that was with this guy? But I don't understand our boy zon is right in the middle so .....

The photo does not contain a woman that was with the guy in question.  The photo is an ad for a website that no longer exists for Zon's place in Cali and yes Zon is in the middle of the photo.
The guy that was supposedly a marriage agency client was a paying guest at Zon's fun house in Cali.

[fathertime]

 
Three jackasses trying to get another to change it's stripes......

what i liked here about robertangle's post is that he finally acknowledged that zon was a jackass!  i assume i'm one of the three other jackasses, which i'm good with. 


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

Oh boy! Here we go again. Another wannabe spelling sheriff.
　
For your information, we don’t care about spelling or grammar on this forum. If we did, you would have to be classified as moron-level yourself.
　
Here are just a few examples of words that YOU have butchered in your short time on the forum:
　
monikker
alledged
blantantly
obsesssive
　
So let’s drop the silly spelling and grammar nonsense and see if you can express your opinions without pretending to be more intelligent and educated than your foes.
 
 
　
Ray

Good eye Bozo!


You have to understand that my pet is not playing with a full deck nowadays, a lack of women/friends/family in his life has curdled his brain and sorta turned him into an old joke.


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

=> Has anybody noticed that FT disappeared  and even erased his avatar?    It does seem one poster had detailed information of his real life ... it is very much unlike him to be silent.

Quit being so dramatic, as Fuzzy said I had some family things to do, now i've read all your latest rubbish and it is just a rerun of a boring 70's sitcom.

The photo I shared is a representation not of what is wrong IF YOU LIVE IN COLOMBIA.  But, what is very risky if you take a Colombian woman OUT of Colombia and bring her to the USA.  There is a Colombian saying "rich are never ugly."  The same is NOT true in the USA.

You shouldn't be 'sharing'photos of people just in order to mock them.  I can see you are trying to walk back your original intent with the photo now that you taking crap. In addition your 'deep' óbservations' are about as groundbreaking as  this new thing called The Wheel.


I for one enjoy showing pictures of my family, and even contemplated sharing one with  you a while back, but it just doesn't make sense as your judgement is rather poor when it comes to other people's privacy.  Again in your zest to tease that man, you also posted the picture of the young lady which doesn't put her in a positive light given the commentary you decided to dole out. 


I've never read about a poster foolishly begging other members to show photos of themselves and their wives.  Despite being proud, I just sit back and smile that you are left wanting!

Ray, after your next diaper change, please translate the above for me.
And speaking of trolls, what makes me a troll?  In your 1700 or so posts, how many have been flames, and how many have been constructive posts, helping others here on this forum?  The vast vast majority have been flames.  So does that make YOU a troll?  No one knows who you really are.  If revealing my real name and personal info doesn¨t make me a troll, I will be happy to oblige, just as soon as you do the same.

Christ, you are encyclopedic about this forum which you are a 'new'member to!  jaja!   Looks to me like old anti-fathertime has his wittle feelings hurt AGAIN, now that i've forced him to post under a new username again! 




Fathertime!

[Fuzzyone]

The photo does not contain a woman that was with the guy in question.  The photo is an ad for a website that no longer exists for Zon's place in Cali and yes Zon is in the middle of the photo.
The guy that was supposedly a marriage agency client was a paying guest at Zon's fun house in Cali.

  Thank you for clearing that up.... so I want to ask one question Zon you out there or did you crawl back under that rock you live under? Mr Banks thank you for the info I guess someone else is making stuff up too? Must be photoshop right?

[Kevin Banks]

  Thank you for clearing that up.... so I want to ask one question Zon you out there or did you crawl back under that rock you live under? Mr Banks thank you for the info I guess someone else is making stuff up too? Must be photoshop right?

All the photos are real.  The guy in the photo was more interested in P4P than anyting else.

[defenderofzon]

Good eye Bozo!


You have to understand that my pet is not playing with a full deck nowadays, a lack of women/friends/family in his life has curdled his brain and sorta turned him into an old joke.


Fathertime!

well,  since mudd has exposed my real identity, I guess I should start being nicer to you.
 
Steve from Las Vegas aka Defender of Zon
 
 

[Zon]

Well, at least I see some familiar faces / names - Hola Kev.  This place has just gotten better with your arrival.  I wish there were more members here like you.


I think it ought be mandatory that people put a little skin on the table and tell who and what they are, rather than hiding behind masks, claims, and much less starting witch hunts.  Again, I could care less to win anyone's approval here ... I simply wish to point out that nobody ought assume they are superior or judge another - ESPECIALLY IN THIS PURSUIT, of dating foreign women / marriage  - I mean a little honesty from all of you would be a welcome surprise.  I can hardly imagine a person starting on this journey and not experiencing many unsightly things, and bumps in the road.


"Zon's house of fun" - that was, indeed my plan!  Great set-up, learn a little salsa, meet some women ... who knows, maybe even meet Ms. Right?  todo es posible. Few things ever go according to plan, but this one did, at least for the first 3 or 4 months.


I will never throw those photos away of (damn I forgot his name too). He did work and live in Alaska, and he was married before to a Colombiana he met through an agency.  I remember he was introduced to Colombia on a TLC tour - which in the past brought 50 - 100 men to find "love and marriage."  Because, besides being a side splirtter, it is a good representation of some of what you will actually see in.  I intentionally posted it for a few choice members here, because until you show otherwise ... it is more than likely those visuals represent you too!  I would still eat my words, and consider it a small act of courage if you would oblige.


That Mansion was never intended to be a "Marriage Agency" or a "Cat House".   HELL!  I wanted to keep it all to myself LOL    But, there were some men that did stay there, just to help to pay the bills.  The guy in the photo (I just remembered his name); Kev; maybe 3 - 4 other guys while I was there.  (And, as a matter of fact, I had zero to do with those dealings too)  We did host several large parties, however.  I think one or two may have been the same weekend as the TLC tours?  It's all a little blurring to me.   I don't think that many men that stayed there made a point of being celibate.  I remember one guy, a musician / artist, younger good looking guy ... he actually proposed marriage to a woman, then went to celebrate ... then, at midnight, went out all night a partied with me.  My point is - you see all types.


But, Kev, the prevailing slant here is that I, Zon; opened a cat house, or many of them.  Some of these guys - Fuzzy being the most self righteous - like to imply that 1) I have broken laws; and 2) I promote a business.   Both of which are false.  I have used this board, especially years ago for orientation. 


Additionally, many folks here like to presume that because of my colorful associations I can not be a good husband / family man. (these guys seem to think you can be only one thing your entire life)  And, some have strongly requested my absence.  Come to think about it ... I have met Mudd, Mickey, Calipro, and Kevin Banks in person - nobody else.  I enjoy and have much in common with all those I have met in person.


===  Usually when new members come here, they don't stay long because the dialogue is very narrow, and people here are very sensitive to anything balanced, sober, or negative.  But, people like Kevin Banks could add alot ====

[innerperson]

Well, boys ...


No pics to put up, or shut up?  No direct sentences ... starting to feel like a [snip]ing marriage tour re-union party for really really really old farts.


I don't fit in this place.

haha  You're like 50 years old.  I would constitute that as an old fart mate.

[innerperson]

Perhaps if they added an extra foot and a half height to me, I wouldn't mind coming back in another life as mega rich Formula 1 racing magnate and bona fide 'character', British Bernie Ecclestone, shown here with one of his wives and one of his two lovely daughters. (I think he remarried to an even taller Croatian woman)
 

Indeed, Robert, if your going to be in a lopsided relationship it is better to be a mega rich dude in a lopsided relationship.  Obviously this guy is offering something that women find attractive besides looks.    Maybe it is the head of hair.   

[innerperson]

The photo does not contain a woman that was with the guy in question.  The photo is an ad for a website that no longer exists for Zon's place in Cali and yes Zon is in the middle of the photo.
The guy that was supposedly a marriage agency client was a paying guest at Zon's fun house in Cali.

The photo posted by Zon is on that website you posted, http://jccali.com/.

So the guy was a monger and not really a marriage oriented guy.

[innerperson]

I think it ought be mandatory that people put a little skin on the table and tell who and what they are, rather than hiding behind masks, claims, and much less starting witch hunts.  Again, I could care less to win anyone's approval here ... I simply wish to point out that nobody ought assume they are superior or judge another - ESPECIALLY IN THIS PURSUIT, of dating foreign women / marriage  - I mean a little honesty from all of you would be a welcome surprise.  I can hardly imagine a person starting on this journey and not experiencing many unsightly things, and bumps in the road.

You mean, people shouldn't post pictures of other men and ridicule/judge them?  I happen to agree.

[Zon]

So the guy was a monger and not really a marriage oriented guy.

LOL - he was both; most men who are single and traveling for the first time are in fact both - or lying. People here just argue about definitions!



How can any grown man think that other men walk around wearing shirts saying "Monger"  / "Marriage Minded"? Have you seen this in the world you have lived in?   AND, remember in Colombia especially, you don't need to go to a casa to have a relationship that is more than less "transactional" - meaning the woman is spending time / favors in return of "something."

[innerperson]

LOL - he was both; most men are both. People here just argue about definitions!



How can any grown man think that other men walk around wearing shirts saying "Monger"  / "Marriage Minded"? Have you seen this in the world you have lived in?   AND, remember in Colombia especially, you don't need to go to a casa to have a relationship that is more than less "transactional" - meaning the woman is spending time / favors in return of "something."

See, you are an old fart.  Look at how your vision is deteriorating and the need to use large fonts.


Sorry, if a guy is actually looking for a wife he won't find one in places known for mongering.  Maybe to you they are both the same which is probably why you and others have very different ideas on marriage/women/relationships.   This is why people bring up your "business".   It obviously affects your view on such things.

[fathertime]

LOL - he was both; most men who are single and traveling for the first time are in fact both - or lying. People here just argue about definitions!



How can any grown man think that other men walk around wearing shirts saying "Monger"  / "Marriage Minded"? Have you seen this in the world you have lived in?   AND, remember in Colombia especially, you don't need to go to a casa to have a relationship that is more than less "transactional" - meaning the woman is spending time / favors in return of "something."

You used incredibly poor judgement by posting a picture of this man and colombian lady, with your own commentary of who he is.  The very thing you constantly grumble about and you go and do this. 


IP is correct, your judgement of women is also greatly skewed and it is at least in part because you have been getting no respect from the women and that is because your actions don't warrant respect. 


Fathertime!

[Zon]

You used incredibly poor judgement by posting a picture of this man and colombian lady, with your own commentary of who he is.  The very thing you constantly grumble about and you go and do this. 

Well, you prefer FANTASY LAND / INNUENDO / WITCH HUNTS? 

Are we going to have a real discussion, or just be content call names wearing masks ... like a bunchofpussies?  Only members can see images, and the amount of traffic this site gets is laughably low. So, spare me the lecture.  If anyone has a reason to bitch, its me. 

I WOULD BE FLOORED if any of you show who you are, and become more transparent. Again, if you guys were remotely balanced, and did not fan the flames of innuendo, I would shut the hell up.  But, there is no limit to your recklessness!   You worry about a photo going "public" on the internet, but you don't think twice of implying that I have been involved in unlawful activity?!?!? 

[fathertime]

Well, you prefer FANTASY LAND / INNUENDO / WITCH HUNTS? 

Are we going to have a real discussion, or just be content call names wearing masks ... like a bunchofpussies?  Only members can see images, and the amount of traffic this site gets is laughably low. So, spare me the lecture.  If anyone has a reason to bitch, its me. 

I WOULD BE FLOORED if any of you show who you are, and become more transparent. Again, if you guys were remotely balanced, and did not fan the flames of innuendo, I would shut the hell up.  But, there is no limit to your recklessness!   You worry about a photo going "public" on the internet, but you don't think twice of implying that I have been involved in unlawful activity?!?!? 

Hey you are the one who showed the poor judgement and posted that man's photo with the young Colombian lady, and added in your own derogatory commentary,  nobody else did.   Nobody cares THAT much about your silly past, i just figure you have always floundered with the ladies.  You are like some silly starstruck kid that gets to have his photo taken with an idol and then show all his friends, and then pretend it was on áccident' that everybody saw it.  It is not surprising that the Colombian ladies don't take much of a real shine to you.  You will always be a joke until you start to show the ladies some genuine respect instead of categorizing them all as ho's sluts, cheaters, etc.  I realize that has been your experience but there is a reason that has happened to YOU and not to others.


Fathertime!

[Zon]

Sorry, if a guy is actually looking for a wife he won't find one in places known for mongering.  Maybe to you they are both the same which is probably why you and others have very different ideas on marriage/women/relationships.   This is why people bring up your "business".   It obviously affects your view on such things.

As a matter of fact, you are absolutely DEAD WRONG.  Just like you assume men wear T-Shirts saying Good Guy / Bad Guy ... you assume women to the same?!?! This is the type of thinking that is linear - I am ordering from a catalog for a wife.   THIS IS PRECISELY the reason some of you married guys get heart burn with my comments!  You don't want to admit that many things in Colombia are mixed - and things are what you make it.  Thus, you can find a whore in a church, and a princess in a bar.  And, most of you apparently will likely be surprised as time unfolds.

Of course there are some women that would never do THAT ... but, almost all women compromise themselves in some way for advantage.  And, before you all buck because your fairy tales are vulnerable ... that is exactly what a man does in Colombia - provides stuff / protects.  These lines are more thin than most of you would like to admit.

[innerperson]

As a matter of fact, you are absolutely DEAD WRONG.  Just like you assume men wear T-Shirts saying Good Guy / Bad Guy ... you assume women to the same?!?! This is the type of thinking that is linear - I am ordering from a catalog for a wife.   THIS IS PRECISELY the reason some of you married guys get heart burn with my comments!  You don't want to admit that many things in Colombia are mixed - and things are what you make it.  Thus, you can find a whore in a church, and a princess in a bar.  And, most of you apparently will likely be surprised as time unfolds.

Of course there are some women that would never do THAT ... but, almost all women compromise themselves in some way for advantage.  And, before you all buck because your fairy tales are vulnerable ... that is exactly what a man does in Colombia - provides stuff / protects.  These lines are more thin than most of you would like to admit.

haha So you think it is perfectly normal to try and find a wife at Castle Cali or whatever the place was called.  Yeah, sure thing pal.

[fathertime]

As a matter of fact, you are absolutely DEAD WRONG.  Just like you assume men wear T-Shirts saying Good Guy / Bad Guy ... you assume women to the same?!?! This is the type of thinking that is linear - I am ordering from a catalog for a wife.   THIS IS PRECISELY the reason some of you married guys get heart burn with my comments!  You don't want to admit that many things in Colombia are mixed - and things are what you make it.  Thus, you can find a whore in a church, and a princess in a bar.  And, most of you apparently will likely be surprised as time unfolds.

Of course there are some women that would never do THAT ... but, almost all women compromise themselves in some way for advantage.  And, before you all buck because your fairy tales are vulnerable ... that is exactly what a man does in Colombia - provides stuff / protects.  These lines are more thin than most of you would like to admit.

Once again the comments you make are coming from a guy who has not been able to have a relationship of ANY length with a Colombian lady or learn the language past level 1.  You simply are not qualified to say much of anything about the ladies.  Your expertise lies in how to get Colombian women to roll their eyes when they see you walking into a room.  50 years old and still can’t learn how to handle a woman.  Rather sad, yes?


Fathertime!

[fathertime]

LOL! Funny stuff coming from someone who had body guards in Colombia.....looks like now you even need one here to "defend you"....HAHAHA! Hilarious!

That was a great catch Researcher,  Zon and his 'bodyguards'.  Boy, he musta thought he was pretty important strutting around Colombia.  I wonder if he had the bodyguards carrying him around on a thrown? Was he wearing a crown?  Could his pencil-neck support the extra weight? 


Fathertime! 

[innerperson]

Once again the comments you make are coming from a guy who has not been able to have a relationship of ANY length with a Colombian lady or learn the language past level 1.  You simply are not qualified to say much of anything about the ladies.  Your expertise lies in how to get Colombian women to roll their eyes when they see you walking into a room.  50 years old and still can’t learn how to handle a woman.  Rather sad, yes?


Fathertime!

Good point FT.  For some reason Zon thinks he knows the truth when others don't.  Well, I have no doubt that the truth is correct for Zon.  Our reality is based on how we perceive things. 


It would be sort of like me, with my hangups about marriage, telling a man married for 20+ years that marriage is an outdated concept.  That would make me look pretty silly. 


It seems that this has been on ongoing theme on this board.  I do find it interesting hearing the different opinions but find the conversations becomes less than fruitful when everyone starts claiming their reality is truth for everyone.


I think many people can understand Zon's reality, especially when his past has come to light.  I don't know why Zon doesn't recognize that his reality is influenced from his experiences and his business is an experience a lot of guys haven't nor wanted to experience.   In my opinion, that is why there is such a huge difference in perceptions between Zon and most posters on these types of forums.

It seems like Zon does want a relationship with one woman.  It will be interesting to see if he can combat his perceptions to allow a relationship to happen and to be successful.  I don't think, based on his posts, that he is there yet.

[Micky]

So this does boil down to the cast of regular characters being morally superior men.  Your collective posts are negative,  self righteous rants,  void of much,  if any constructive message.  This goes far beyond a 'normal'  pissing contest that is part of the nature of male dominated boards.  I have not looked it up,  do not really have to,  I am willing to bet that it has been mentioned in more than 50 posts,  Zon and his bad Spanish.  What purpose does it serve that is mentioned beyond anything reasonable?  There is no reasonable explanation for that,  other than the people are psychotic or just plain Aholes.
Zon could maybe be better (smoother) at his negative comments about the Colombian women and the culture.  Although they are,  by and large,  too smart to get involved in these non constructive posts,  the guys that have the most experience/time in Colombia,  Calipro,  Benj,  Dtibbits and Mudd,  would probably agree with much of what he says.  Like many poor countries all over the world,  poverty makes bad behavior,  no respect for law or rules,  irresponsibility,  lying,  cheating,  deceit,  etc.,  acceptable and ok.
Zon posting the photo of the guy with the girl,  I do not agree with.  NEVER post a photo without the knowledge of that person.  That being said,  his point was spot on.  There are a slew of guys that hook up with women that are NOT in their league,  not even close.  And if it were not for money and material gain,  many of these younger,  pretty women would not so much as have a cafe with the same men,  let alone hook up with them.  How often does this happen,  probably a hell of a lot more than any of us knows about.  Certainly there can be larger age differences,  and  certainly there is not the same level of judgement solely on looks in Colombia,  but it does have it's limits.  Many times it is "the hotter the women,  the fatter the wallet".  Universal,  yes,  but in a country,  like Colombia,  the Western wallet is fatter by default.
Zon,  the "Porn King",  gets some shots to the balls because of his business.  Would it REALLY be the same if it were - Dr. Son,  the heart surgeon?  The truth,  in all probability is no.  Zon is not deserving of help or encouragement because he is a "slime ball".  I am 62 years old,  I am guilty of many mistakes and bad actions,  I am a sinner and a POS.  All that I hope is that upon my death I am not judge you guys.
The truth is Zon is right and wrong with some of the things he says,  the SAME with EVERYONE else here, including me and you.
Go ahead and make your comments,  I can't imagine what they will be.

Micky

[SkyNorth]

Mickey...that seems correct but I did not read the entire thread.  It is just so exhausting reading all the "negative Vibe".  But it can be entertaining.
 
My Question is WHY
Zon - Why are you involved in Porn but seeking a wife?  (not judging just a question)
FT and the guys on Zon's butt - I agree Zon has issues but I would let him explain himself before we stone him.  Why are you So negative to Zon?   (we may need to stone him - after he answers the above question)

[fathertime]

   
Zon,  the "Porn King",  gets some shots to the balls because of his business.  Would it REALLY be the same if it were - Dr. Son,  the heart surgeon?   

Micky

So if i’m to understand ‘micky’ correctly it makes no difference if zon is  a heart surgeon or a bandit without a mask..he is to be treated the same by the young sexy colombian ladies.  Hahah  so if that is what living in Colombia does to your perspective, then you can expect some continued ballshots!  So how much genuine romantic experience does ‘micky’ (the Medellin greeter) have with younger Colombian ladies.  Probably about zero, about the same as zon! Maybe all the silly statements about the Colombian ladies should be made by those that actually have been involved with one to a greater extent than get used for a free meal and doggy bag for mama. 

   Zon is not deserving of help or encouragement because he is a "slime ball".  I am 62 years old,
 

Micky

I don’t know why you are being so hard on zonny here…I’m sure he has done quite a few stupid things, but he is just your average 50 year old floundering his way around the globe looking for ‘mrs right’ while pretending to be very important and 'slightly more intelligent'than both the ladies and the men.  and who cares if you are 62 years old and how many times have you said the same repetitive thing about your age?  Are you begging for a round of applause or something?

Go ahead and make your comments,  I can't imagine what they will be.

Micky

Zon's spanish is at a 4 year old level, I don't know why that gets you so riled up! 
 
Fathertime!