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Author Topic: LATIN ENCOUNTERS  (Read 10732 times)
Margareth Mayor
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« on: October 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »


Hola !!
You are all free to express your opinion about different agencies here,the owner which one you like most, or you think it's the best or share useful tips for your trip or relationships with Latin ladies..these sort of things, THE SERVICE or attention of the owner, but NOT gossips on her private life or judgements.
The real truth is here and you are welcome to find out yourselves, I will be glad to help you clear any doubt about my agency in good and respectful standars, If I ever post and read again that is my only objetive. You are free to choose the one you believe is the best service or easiest way to find a  good and loving latin wife.

Nobody is perfect and I belive only God has enough knowledge to judge us.

Have a nice day!

Margareth Mayorca
Latin Encounters
Cali.

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bogota vet
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by Margareth Mayor on Oct 18, 2002

As everyone can see that first post a few days ago by LE, was not written by Margareth, but by the webmaster.
Being somewhat an expert I could see the English was to well written for Margareth.
So as everyone could also see I hit hit a sore spot and they then became very aggresive .

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Margareth Mayor
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to LATIN ENCOUNTERS full of ringers to set-..., posted by bogota vet on Oct 21, 2002

bogota vet:

ALL of my posts have been written by me and translated to English by my assistant in this office in Cali.  If you are so observative, you would realize it was not written by a native English speaker, but translated by my new interpreter.
There's no reason for agression, I start to feel in the  kinder garden discussing these childish matters.
If we had ringers this agency would have been over years ago..

Margareth

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greg
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by Margareth Mayor on Oct 18, 2002

that You would respond to Questions. Please answer the questions in my Post. Thank you
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lswote
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by Margareth Mayor on Oct 18, 2002

[This message has been edited by lswote]

I think we have an inherent right "to gossip on private life and judgment" when this private life and judgment can impact the quality of the service we are seeking.  I have visited Latin American Introductions in Bogota four times now and the major reason I continue to patronize them and not try other agencies is because I respect the character and judgment of the people in the agency.  I believe those people, while running a business, are just the same committed to helping me try to achieve my goals as well.  If they were to start badmouthing me or saying unflattering things in gossip, I would not patronize them anymore.  Instead I have the highest regard for them and heartily recommend them to others.  Likewise, when I hear about an agency that has problems and the clients feel they have been treated unfairly I want to know that so that I can learn from their problems and don't have to suffer the fate they did.  Occassionally someone will go too far in their complaint and perhaps unfairly badmouth an agency or a person in an agency, but as I have said before, Americans are a fairly savvy bunch and we usually recognize when someone is just being vindictive versus legitimate complaints.
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JSlo
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by lswote on Oct 19, 2002

You are correct we do have a right to complain about bad service, but I do not belive we have an inherent right to assasinate a persons character. We should state what the gripe is and leave it at that, all other concerns should be taken offline. There has been a number of complainers that have taken their complaints to a personal level and I believe that crosses the line of decency. My goodness! someone even mentioned the owners religion in their comment. What on earth does her religious preference have to do with finding a mate. I would certainly do business with LE, however, I would use caution just as I would when dealing with any other agency/business owner.
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Margareth Mayor
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by JSlo on Oct 19, 2002

JSlo :

Good ! That was exactly my point !!  this was the only reason for me to participate on this board. I am satisfied as at least one person did understand.

Thanks

Margareth.

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greg
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by Margareth Mayor on Oct 18, 2002

the email invitation to visit your Agency. I plan on using your Agency on my first trip to Cali. Here are a few questions. I'm hearing impaired and speak Zero Spainish, would that be a problem? Can you speak and write English? I'm hoping to meet a non Catholic Christian Calena, devoted to Jesus. In fact I would want to meet several serious Christian Calenas. Again, I would want us to plan everything together before I get on Plane to visit your agency. Now that we have each others email information, we can work together in private. Thanks again for coming to Planet-Love. God Bless, greg
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Hiker
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Margareth, thanks for , posted by greg on Oct 19, 2002

Greg, I respect what you are saying and there are girls like this in Cali.  I don't think you can expect the owner/operator of an agency to help much in this area.  I would think in your case with the precise qualities you are searching for, that running an ad might benefit you more.  The majority of the girls I met were Catholic but they have no idea what the doctrine of the church is or what the beliefs are.  They are just Catholic because they were born Catholic.  This is an area I found much different than Mexico and some other areas in Latin America.  

There are many protestant churches there.  Find one and go.  Tell the pastor why you are there.  I bet he can help you a lot also.

Good luck.

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greg
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Margareth, thanks for , posted by Hiker on Oct 19, 2002

keep in mind that I'm both hearing impaired and speak, write no Spainish, so I cannot just go wandering around Cali on my own, but I like your idea of visiting Christian churches to meet the Calenas.  Margareth shouldn't have any problem helping me meet Christian Ladies, since thats part of her job, I would work together with her until my goal is met finding that special Latina.
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lswote
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Margareth, thanks for , posted by greg on Oct 19, 2002

Greg,
I met a very wonderful woman in Bogota who about six months ago converted to Christianity and seemed to have a great love for Jesus.  She is 36 and seemed very nice.  If you are interested, email me and I can give you a little more information on her.  I myself am non-religious so she didn't interest me, but I could see she was very sincere in her faith.
Bruce
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Hiker
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by Margareth Mayor on Oct 18, 2002

I have not used Margareth's services personally.  Edward, a friend of mine is a member and I stopped by her agency with him one day.  I sat in Margareth's office and talked to her for quite a while.  I was very impressed with everything I saw, but I was more impressed with the questions Margareth asked.  She has a sincere regard and respect for the girls who are in her agency.

I had every intention of joining her agency before I made another trip to Cali but it turned out that I met the girl I was looking for that same night.  I wasted a lot of money on prior trips looking for the best 'economical' way to approach this.  Everyone has their own opinions and suggestions.  If I were starting in this endeavor today, I would go to either Latin Encounters or Latin Best on my first trip.  Hind sight is always 20-20 and I know a lot more now.  I know that paying a little more upfront can end up saving you a lot of money and time later.   Guys I will tell you this for a fact, You will see more beautiful girls walk in and out of these two agencies in one day than you will see in a month in any other agency. I used Latin Best and Ed used Latin Encounters.  We accomplished more in a day at these two places than we did in an entire week at other agencies.  Be careful what you believe in a forum such as this.  Some posters have never set foot in Cali but write like they are experts.  I have met guys in Cali who were upset with an agency because the girls were players, when later you learn that the guy who is 50 and fat is only looking for a 20 year old model.  There is usually more to the story.  The best thing is to go and find out for yourself.  Read all the info you can, decide what is useful and what is not.  Then go.  Go with realistic expectations and you will be satisfied.  

I am not hear to debate anything with anyone.  I am just saying what is true for me.

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Patrick
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: LATIN ENCOUNTERS, posted by Hiker on Oct 18, 2002

I think some other important points are the following-

1.  The total cost involved in meeting and marrying a woman from another country can be pretty high.  Agency fees are generally only a small fraction of the total spent.  When you add up the costs of multiple trips, phone calls, the expense of bringing the lady here, etc. the total agency cost should end up being small in comparison to other expenses.  You can save more in the long run by paying attention to air fares, phone cards, and other things that generally comprise a higher percentage of the total costs than on agency fees.  I'm not saying that you shouldn't pay any attention to agency fees, just that in the grand scheme of things, they should be small potatoes compared to the rest.  When someone spends a total of $15,000 in his search (not uncommon), I think it's a good decision to try more than one agency, even if it does increase the total to $15,300.  Most of that $15,000 will be expenses other than agencies, so I think spending a little more to look into more than one agency is a good insurance policy to make the other $14,700 in expenses pay off for you.

2.  Success (or lack thereof) is far more dependent on the man himself rather than which agency he chooses.  All the talk of who's got the most attractive women, which have the most sincere women, which has the best show rate for interviews, etc. is IMHO mostly irrelevant.  They all draw on the same pool in each country and I would not advise anyone to rely on an agency, or anyone else for that matter, to screen potentially bad matches.  Nobody can tell you what's in a woman's heart.  You've got to use your own judgement.

3.  Every agency will have it's detractors.  In this business, there will always be someone complaining about an agency at some time or another.  Often things are blown way out of proportion, or innocent things are interpreted as scams.  Language barriers sometimes create situations in which things are garbled and not understood correctly.  Some guys have expectations way out of line with reality and these guys will always be disapointed with any agency.

Agencies are businesses which provide a service.  The service is getting you in touch with women who are searching for a foreign husband.  I haven't seen many Latin agencies over the years that were actually cheating clients.  Bad service is not uncommon, but the outright scamming that everyone's afraid of is fairly rare from what I've seen.  It's a business in which client's emotions run high, and as such, I think it gets a worse than deserved reputation from many.

Please note that this is generic advice, and not intended to be aimed at this particular situation or agency.  And as always, it's just opinion.  There are few hard and fast "facts" that we can reply on in our search for a wife.  Each man has to use his own judgement.

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Hiker
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Agencies in general, posted by Patrick on Oct 18, 2002

Very good point.  The cost of the agency does affects the total cost very little.  I agree that the "scams" are more often than not a misunderstanding, but there is a big difference in the varying degrees of commitment the owner places on the service he provides.  If the agency has a website it is a good measurement of the facility.  If the site never changes and is out of date, there is a good chance the agency is operated the same way.  If the agency has the same faces but routinely changes the dates to make it appear the girl just joined, then don't expect someone with a lot on the ball.  I am sure this is not a concrete rule, but the agencies that I do know personally seem to put the same energy into the agency that they do the website.  

The agency chosen is not the deciding factor in being successful.  Choosing a lazy or dying agency is frustrating.  I think there is a lot of value to be placed in selecting the right agency, but at the same time I think it is to often placed as the most important aspect to this.  Give the selection some attention but don't let this be what consumes your thoughts.

I think if we all, (including me) had spent as much time reading the INS and related websites, as we spent drooling over the smiles on the agency sites, we would have been much better off.  :-)

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Patrick
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Agencies in general, posted by Hiker on Oct 18, 2002

I'd say learning some Spanish is probably one of the best ways to spend one's energy early in this process.  Makes getting to know someone MUCH easier if you can communicate with them.  I realise the ladies are in almost all cases going to be the one's moving to a new country with a different language, but I think studying Spanish is very important.  It allows you to even go without using any agency whatsoever and opens up the possibility of searching in places where there's no agencies serving the area.  It also educates you on the difficulty of really learning a language well and will make you more sensitive to what your wife faces.  It's also nice to be able to communicate with the wife's family when you visit.  Your wife will almost certainly want your children, if you have them, to be bilingual and without Spanish skills, you'll be left out of the Spanish conversation.  Lastly, I think it makes the trips much more interesting when you can speak to the people and get to know their culture better.

I would never have known that the rack I saw in a Cartagena museum was used to strech a man's testicles until he confessed to his sins if I hadn't been able to read Spanish.  What a culturally enriching experience that was.  By the way, they killed the man after they extracted his confession.  The torture was for his own good so they could cleanse his sole through confession before they executed him (for his sins apparently).  Without the testicle stretching, those guys might not have gone to heaven.  How thoughtful and compassionate of the authorities to think of the man's sole like that.  Now those were some genuinely good people!

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