As I was saying, I just returned from a "Barranquilla Beauties" tour.
There were over 700 ladies there between Friday and Saturday night and about 40 men. We were totally overwhelmed. TLC can never match that, at least not in BQ. Many of the ladies were beautiful, kind, and college educated.

I have been to numerous agencies in Cali and one TLC tour to Bogota.
I can honestly say that Sam Smith, the owner, out did them all in every category. There were more than enough translators. Sam and Sandra were there throughout the week to help us and were wonderful.
The owner of TLC doesn't even show up to most of his tours.

I know what you're thinking. I'm the owner, right? I am NOT the owner, and I don't even work for them. If you want the facts, just call the hotel and ask them how many ladies have shown up to Sam's tours versus TLC's. The ladies are flocking to Sam's parties in huge numbers compared to TLC. Why? Because he is doing something that they aren't, and the word is spreading.

My web server cuts me off if I stay on too long, so I will continue this later.

Sincerely,
Ross2

... in response to Barranquilla Beauties tour follow up, posted by Ross2 on Mar 6, 2002


Is it just me...

Or does it seem like Ross has plenty of time to answer EVERYONE'S post... but keeps saying: "Tell you later" or "refer to my report elsewhere..." when asked for details...

It seems to me that if Ross REALLY were interested in giving us information we can use... he could easily find the time by just not writing "I'll tell you later" 100 times...

As my mom used to say when I told her I'd clean my room later:

"The problem with you is that later never comes...

... in response to Ross's big followup revealed, posted by Action Jackson on Mar 7, 2002

As Paul Harvey days, "the rest of the story"

Action Jackson
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To understand why I posted such a positive description of Barranquilla Beauties, you need to understand my past experiences with Colombian agencies. The bed and breakfast agencies in Cali have great potential and are a better choice for those who do not like the huge party tours. However, I experienced more than my share of problems relating to how these agencies are run. First of all, some of them didn't even return my emails.  This was so strange to me, how a business could not respond to a potential customer. Secondly, prior to leaving for Cali I submitted names of ladies I wanted to meet in oreder to speed the process. I did this with two agencies, and neither followed through. I can go on and on about similar problems. There just seems to be a lack of professionalism and compassion with many agencies.

My TLC tour to Bogota was not a bad experience. I met a lot of ladies and had a good time. However, the owner wasn't there.  I then heard that he doesn't even show up to most of his tours. Then I heard from other gringos there that a previous TLC tour to Guadalajara had a turnout of around 200 ladies and about 60 men. Some men asked for their money back but it wasn't granted. I asked them why such a bad turnout, and they said that they just didn't get the adds out on time. Once again, the lack of professoinalism and compassion shines through.

When I arrived at Barranquilla, Sam and Sandra were at the airport to greet us all.  What a change that was. They were always eager to help, always returned my emails and calls, followed through with requests, understands what we are going through, and so on.

After what I went through, do you understand why I posted such a positive description of his tour? I'm not saying he doesn't have faults, but he sure stands out in the crowd when it comes to how he runs his business, at least from what I have seen. If you are fed up with the lack of professionalism and compassion from other agencies, then his tour is for you.

I will answer more of your questions later.

Sincerely,
Ross

... in response to Ross's big followup revealed, posted by Action Jackson on Mar 7, 2002

Yo Action, That's the same one he posted here. Is that, like, plagerism?

... in response to Barranquilla Beauties tour follow up, posted by Ross2 on Mar 6, 2002

you do a pretty good impression of him. I've gone to a TLC tour in Barranquilla and have been to a Barranquilla Beauties tour.

Instead of talking about what makes his company unique or special, Sam spent the majority of his conversations comparing his company to TLC...kind of like you are doing. IMO, the preoccupation with TLC was due to the hard feelings that he was(is?) still harboring after being let go from TLC, where he worked as a salesman.

And...last time I was in Barranquilla, Sam and his own Barranquilla Beauty were not exactly "happy with one another". This was clear to anyone around the two of them for any length of time, and was a topic that the gentlemen on the tour were openly discussing in the lobby of the Puerta del Sol one night, after the tour events were over.

...not to mention the fact that the hotel staff was discussing it as well.

Sam is generally a nice guy, but he doesn't have the key to universal happiness, as he would have potential clients to believe....first he might want to straighten out his own affairs.

Tai

ps - I personally thought that it was a madhouse with the women to men ratio, especially given the size of the room the events were held in. Contrary to "agency hype" there IS a such thing as TOO MANY ladies.

... in response to Re: Re: Well if you're not the owner..., posted by Ross2 on Mar 7, 2002


Ross writes;

I agree that that the high ratio of women to men can be a madhouse at times. That is why I tried the bed and breakfast agencies in Cali. They have a lot of potential, but I often  showed up when there were a lot of other gringos there which  greatly narrowed my choices.

Hi Ross,

I don't recall there ever being more than about 6 or 7 guys at any of the B&B agencies I used to visit while in Cali and the mean was closer to 2 or 3.  Also most of the agencies have at least 500 available women to choose appointments from and so I'm surprised you felt your choices were greatly narrowed by the other gringos in the house.  

El Diablo

... in response to gringo competition, posted by Ross2 on Mar 7, 2002

Gee Ross,

Having the time to waste, I did a search and located the two gringos website, which I'm sure you should know is members only.  So...  If you want to refer to a discussion there, why not either copy the relevant text here, or post a link, OR not post *here* what you don't feel willing to discuss here.  That would make a lot more sense now and when/if these messages get archived.  I know Patrick has discouraged people posting commentary here about discussions on other boards, and this concept seems to make a lot of sense.

As you've already indicated, Agency XYZ! MORE INFORMATION COMING SOON!  Well, good luck to you.  Needing such a huge disadvatage in numbers doesn't seem like something I'd recommend to a friend who I wanted to sucessfully find a partner for marriage.  It would be nice if there could be a more meaninful discussion about this type of approach.  Still don't know why people would like the "big tour party" or why they would want to go to this agency that you're recommending.

I know "I'll tell you later.." but this reminds me of the old joke about "How do you keep an idiot in suspense?"

... in response to Cream of the Crop, posted by El Diablo on Mar 7, 2002

What I see is that the ladies who get married usually aren't the most popular ones, despite the fact that they get the majority of attention.  Maybe it's that they're much more demanding in terms of what type of man they're attracted to.  Or it could be that the really gorgeous ones tend to be the younger ladies who're more likely to be in this more out of a sense of curiousity or adventure than to settle down. Perhaps it's a bit of both.

I'd also have to agree with others who say that the photos sometimes do not truely reflect the woman's attractiveness.  I met one woman who was stunning in person. Her photo definitely didn't do her justice.  That may indeed be one advantage of tour parties.  But I would caution men who go for these ladies.  If the man is also one of the "cream of the crop" from the male side, go for it, but if not, better do some thinking on who you decide to pursue.  You could either end up very frustrated, or you could that the reality of being married to one of these women is not anything like the fantasy.