It was hot in Panama

[buzzy]

Well I got back Thursday morning from my trip to Panama and Peru.  I went to the TLC party in Panama.  It was a real kick in the pants. Panama is very beautiful country with all it's plants and trees etc. I met alot of great guys from all over the U.S. and Canada.  About 30 guys showed up and about 125 ladies on Friday night and about 170 ladies on Saturday night.  The pool party was also alot of fun.  The beauty of the ladies was good and they were warm and fun.  I made my decision to go at the last minute and used good ol' Mastercard.  Now I'll face all the expenses.   I met a beautiful 30 year old Panama flower Saturday night and spent the next week with her.  I flew up to a northern city called David and met her family and friends.  David was steamy and hot. Too humid for me in Panama.  I'm a sweater so it melted me everyday I was there.  After 10 minutes in the street my shirt was soaked in perspiration.  It was very uncomfortable.  I fell in love with this young lady and I asked her to marry me but things didn't quite work out that way.  Actually it ended on a bad note at the airport over the way I felt she was treating me.  I wanted more affection and warmth in those final moments but she wasn't forthcoming.  The story is long, alot of things happened during that week. My Irish temper flared at the airport and I believe now it's completely over with.  O'well I tried.  She is as beautiful as a  flower.  And boy could she kiss.  I was in 7th heaven.    We locked lips for sooo long I had to come up for air. But we never went all the way. Yes I bought her things...cell phone, clothes, dinners, gifts, etc.  Yes I know it's not smart. Yes.. I'm aware it's stupid.  But I was....."enamored".  I guess that's what they call it...or "captivated.".  I loved every minute of it.  A 51 year old man enjoying time with a beautiful 30 year old Panamanian flower.  Ahhhhhh......the memories.  But she's gone.  O'well.. back to the drawing board.......ah..Planet-love that is.

[denvermike]

... in response to It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 17, 2001

Hi Buzzy,

I tend to agree, I  met several nice ladies last year at the TLC party in Panama City.

I met a whole table of ladies from David also. One of them I'm still having a steamy email affair,her name is Lourdes.

One of the guys at the party had a similar bad experience with one of the David girls. This lady was really good looking about 30, had one kid, but she would be bad news for an LTR. They were supposed to go to David to meet the folks but it ended before they went. I can't remember her name, it was really unusual.  What was your girls first name, I might know her.

Where did you stay in David, I may be headed there someday to visit my friend.

You are right,Panama is the most humid place I have been.

take care,
mike

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by denvermike on Aug 18, 2001

We'll have to talk more about the ladies at the TLC party.  I'll e-mail you.  Her name is very normal and begins with a M and she's 30 with no children.  We stayed at the Hotel Nacional in David.  I believe it was 60 a night.  They have a casino, buffet room, outdoor restaurant near the pool.  There's also a theater connected showing about 4 American films.  The food was ok, their friendliness was just ok.  In the final days before my departure I began to be more careful where I put my wallet and passport.  I was enamored with the lady but there were red flags.  She didn't communicate enough.  That's it in a nutshell.  I asked many questions, and created situations to draw out her insides.  But she is a quiet person, leaving me with only her actions to interpret her true thoughts and feelings.   Of course this made me uneasy.  I jump to conclusions fairly quickly as some may already know about me.  And the thought that kept coming to my mind was that she used to be an escort, or still is an escort.  I began to think that she was playing me.  In David we even stopped into the Catholic church inquiring about the marriage process.  An old Father impatiently looked at me and asked her if I was Catholic.  In a few minutes we were out the door with a small list of requirements.  I talked to her about marriage and warned her that I needed reassurance that this is what she wanted because the path to a visa and everything was very serious doings.  She looked at me but didn't say anything.  This created confusion for me.  At one point she asked me if I could send her money for the wedding dress.  At another point she asked me if I could give her money to eat so that she didn't have to work and could spend her time arranging the wedding.  When I asked her for a figure for food she could not give me an exact amount that she needed  This puzzled me.  She wanted money for food but could not say how much.  I thought "Is this a clever maneuver?"  I didn't know.  In the David airport back to Panama I excused myself.  When I returned a man was sitting next to her and talking to her.  He asked her if she was married to me.  "What did you tell him?"  "I told him no."  "You didn't tell him I was your fiance or novio?" "No."  Back in Panama City we took her things to her Hotel.  She warned me not to advance up the steps because I would be expelled and maybe arrested.  This was the second warning not to advance the steps but this one was more forceful than the previous.  It drew my suspicions.  Three young thugs were eyeing me in the street and I grew nervous.  An older man unshaven thin with ratty clothing walked to me and warned me to get off the street because it was very dangerous.  I went into the coffee shop next door thinking my novia would look for me.  After a cup of coffee I decided to advance the steps to the hotel.  At the top of the steps were two lovely ladies working the front desk.  They welcomed me into the waiting room.  I said, "It's ok?"  They said, "sure."  I noticed another room and took the liberty of looking inside.  It was a great surprise because inside were many people eating, and dancing, and swimming in a small pool.  My temper flared.  There was no reason for me to remain down in the street with the thugs.  What was she protecting, or hiding?  I didn't know.   We met back at my hotel because she had taken a cab looking for me.  She was angry and complained about the cab fare of 4.50.  I told her I would reimburse her.  The next morning I asked her if she really wanted to marry me.  With a smile she quietly said, "no."  I asked her in the taxi to the airport if she was joking or serious.  She merely said,"I have told you various times my answer."  This was not reassurance to me.  At the airport I gave her only 40 dollars because I really had some serious doubts.  I walked 3 seconds to the customs and looked back.  She was gone.  I could see her outside the front door standing by the lottery ticket seller.  The customs man told me to get another form from COPA Airlines.  I exited the customs area in a bee line to her.  The doors opened and I said tensely, "Why didn't you wait to wave me off?"  She looked at me emotionless.  I hurriedly got the form from COPA and again went to the front door where she was still standing outside.  This time in very tense words I said, "You couldn't wait 3 seconds to see me off??  This is just a game to you!!"  Again she looked at me with a look of complete disconnection while she was stuffing the 40 single dollars inside her pocket that she had changed with the lottery seller.  It was like looking at a stranger.  She merely looked but gave no facial response.  I boarded the plane and consumed my maximum 3 cervezas.

[tommi]

... in response to It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 17, 2001

Stupid shmooopid! Who cares if you feel a little awkward. We've all spent a little money on someone just to have things not "work out." As long as you had a good time and enjoyed the company you were with; it was worth it to you.

As for me, it's impossible not to want to spend a little on beautiful women. They are, or at least were meant to be God's gift to us right? As for the proposal part- who's to say? Maybe not the best idea you've ever had.

I say take a "vacation" mindset every time you go somewhere in search of your beautiful flower. Have a good time and spend to your heart's desire; on everything and everyone that pleases you. Life is short so they say...enjoy it.

Thanks for the report.

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by tommi on Aug 18, 2001

N/T

[Hamlet]

... in response to It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 17, 2001

Buzzy,

Have you been to other Latin countries?  And if so, how do Panamanians compare to natives of those other countries?

Hamlet

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by Hamlet on Aug 18, 2001

Most of the time my eyes were fixed on my Panamanian amor but from what I saw it appeared that Panama is a real mix of different people.  Ok I'll give you the bottom line here.  It's my duty.  I know this will offend some but it's just my stinking opinion....that's all.  The beauty quality of the Panama ladies is mid-range.....and no more.  One lady at the TLC tour told me... and I was shocked to hear it.......that there are more men in Panama than women.  Take it for what it's worth.  But back to your inquiry...I would move on to another country if your're looking for the better or best beauties.  What I noticed there was the black female.  They are friendly....pretty...great bodies...and very calm personalities.  The Panamanians appeared to be tranquil and layed-back types.  I was surprised that very few spoke English.  The African heritage presence is there which some guys may noy prefer but I am getting to be more attracted to.  Truthfully in all the places I've been  I BELIEVE that the cream of the crop is disappearing.  Most of the beauties have left on their own or been taken away by Germans, Italians, Canadians, Australians, Americans, etc  This is just my opinion. What's being left behind are the mid-range beauties.  The sooner you act the better.  My next major focus may be Honduras since the other countries are being hit so hard.  What's left?  The world is a small place now with all the airlines and flights,  There's nothing left that hasn't been explored.  If you snooze you lose..so I've been warned....

[Hamlet]

... in response to Re: Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 18, 2001

Buzzy,

Thank you for the interesting observations regarding the beauty of the Panamanians vis a vis other Latinas.  And thanks, too, to DenverMike for his comments as I know he has traveled extensively throughout LA.

But for me a high level of beauty is not a sine que non.  I am looking for a certain combination of personality, character, intelligence and education.

Can you comment on these aspects of Panamanians and how they compare to other Latinas?  Thanks.

Hamlet

[buzzy]

... in response to Character, personality, posted by Hamlet on Aug 19, 2001

Most of the ladies I met at the TLC party had no college education.  Some had trade school training like cosmotology and secretarial.  A small few had college degrees and were planning to get a higher level like Masters or Doctorate.  Most of the ladies there were in their early to late 20's.  All of the family and friends of my friend were cashiers in a mall.  One was very very cute, another fairly cute with a great personality, and another with a very nice disposition and mid-range beauty.  All were salegirls in a department store.  And all want to meet and marry a MOB seeker.    Intelligence...I don't know.  Character...I don't know.  Personality...the Panamanians in general appeared layed-back, unpretentious, relaxed, and with beautiful smiles.  I never saw so many people who smiled so easily. The city is very big in area it seemed... but I didn't see many people walking, or many on the city streets or mall.  So it could have a smaller population than one would expect.  I don't know. Good luck.

[denvermike]

... in response to Re: Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 18, 2001

Just my opinion,

I have been all over South America including Chile, Argentina, Peru, Colombia, and Panama.

I tend to agree with Buzzy, most of the ladies from Panama were average looking.  There were many darker skinned ladies much more than any other latin country I have been in.

However, I did meet two to rhree very pretty ladies in Panama, one of which would match any lady I met in Colombia or Chile.

mike

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by denvermike on Aug 18, 2001

N/T

[cjweir]

... in response to It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 17, 2001

well, being irish and having a temper, i understand where your coming from, latin woman bring the best and worst out of me. but i think it probably would not be a bad idea to call her, i am betting she is actually waiting for your call. either that or your not ready for your 30 year old flower and you sabatage yourself, atleast it sounds that way to me ( i have done that before ). well think about it you never know, latin women are very for giving

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by cjweir on Aug 17, 2001

I tried calling her on her NEW cell phone that I bought but guess what?  ....it's been disconnected....LOL.  Boy she outdid me .  I thought I topped her at the airport but she simply said to herslf...ok I'll just change my phone number..and say bye bye to the gringo.  The truth is I am moving on ..it was an adventure.  I've leaned on women before and went crawling back to them on my hands and knees with credit card in hand but this time no thank you.  I fell in love with her.  I could easliy marry and live with this lady the rest of my days on this planet.  But I could just as easily say I tried...it imploded...now it's over..and I wish her the best that life offers.  Yes if she called me I would definitely resume my manly hormonal pursuit of her but she disconnected the number!!  Where's that leave me?   No where.

[rubio]

... in response to Re: Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by buzzy on Aug 18, 2001

wow that surprised me, i thought she would be waiting. you must have really blew your temper

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: It was hot in Panama, posted by rubio on Aug 18, 2001

Yes I was tense but it takes two to tangle.  I was being as fair as I could with my personal limitations.  An experienced lady knows when to pull up anchor and I think that's what she was doing.  Just moments before in the airport she gave me her new cell #.  But accidentally  she wrote 2 instead of 6.  I caught her on it and she giggled and rewrote the number correctly.  Accidental?....intentional?  I don't know and never will know. But in context of everything for the entire week and half.  I was detecting a pattern.  Thanks for your comment.  Good luck in your search.