How long does the typical RW marriage last?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to We All Have to Start Somewhere . . ., posted by Dan on Jul 31, 2002

He's trolling, Dan...

I've been on the board for a couple years now.

I've never "met" a serious guy yet who would turn down an offer to meet with someone for lunch and have all of his questions answered.

Does that make sense to you? Jack even offered to pick a place near him, and pick up the tab, and he said he was "too busy".

How sincere do you think he is???

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Re: You don't need a prenup..., posted by MarkInTx on Jul 30, 2002

What guy would pass up lunch at the Traildust Steakhouse?  Not me, even if I can only handle the cowgirl staek.  Even his initial post sounded insincere.  He just confirmed himself a phony with me.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: How long does the typical RW marriag..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

There are all different types of men who go over to the FSU to seek a potential mate.

There are men that make a lot of money, have good social skills, are attractive, in good physical shape who are also very nice guys. These guys never have a problem getting a date, it is just that they think that they can get better from the FSU. Commonly they just do not care for AW for a variety of reasons and are hoping they can find something different more easily from the FSU. Of course there will be a woman in the USA that will fit the bill but, for whatever reason he has decided to look elsewhere.

Then, there is the opposite end of the spectrum - a guy that women would call a total loser who get involved because they simply can not get any action where they live that lasts more than one or two dates if they are even lucky enough to get that. To get laid they find the ugliest woman they can as they at least have a chance to score with this approach.

Then, there are all shades of grey in between these to ends of the spectrum.

What you will find is that women and/or men that call all men losers who get involved in this process can not understand why gentlemen like the first mentioned would ever do this.

The bottom line is everyone is going over there because they think that they can do better there than in their own backyard. And, almost anyone can do better. There simply are more quality single women available  in the FSU  than in the USA. Women over there are competing for you. Over here, you are competing for the women. They have a total different attitude about it that is very refreshing.  It is a whole different ball game.

[KingC]

... in response to An answer., posted by thesearch on Jul 30, 2002

Thanks thesearch.  That's a great overview of why men seek RW's and sums up my feelings.  I suppose I lie somewhere in between a looser and one of those great looking rich guys.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to How long does the typical RW marriage la..., posted by Jack on Jul 30, 2002


Is your "spidey-sense" tingling, Jack...?

Mine is...

[KingC]

... in response to Re: How long does the typical RW marriag..., posted by MarkInTx on Jul 30, 2002

Ok what is "spidey-sense"?

[Dan]

... in response to Re: Re: How long does the typical RW mar..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

Some pretty clever trolls that occasionally infest this board.

I see that in your case, he is also offering you the benefit of his vast insights into this process.

Jack also graciously shared his time and knowledge with me long ago - and I can tell you from first-hand experience, that there are few people who know as much about this process as he.

Now - as for the "spidey-sense" comment. Jack is a great guy that has it 'in' for trolls and for scammers. Scammers come in multiple persuasions - some are the RW that seek to get only money from western guys - and some are AM that seek only a sex tour in the FSU. Both are equally despicable - and both garner the attention and condemnation of Jack and others on this board.

Note that the handle you've chosen caused me a bit of a start, as it pretty closely resembles the principal in a horrible tragedy from the NW USA recently involving the death of a young RW at the hands of a sick and demented AM (her 'husband').

You see - this, in combination with a VERY open-ended and possibly bating type of question, leads many to be suspicious. Particularly so when it is the initial post of someone that has not offered much information about themselves. It is a recipe for rude treatment on this board - right or wrong.

Well, I hope you now have a slightly better understanding of the board dynamics here - even if your initial question remains unanswered --smile--.

Cheers,

- Dan

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Re: How long does the typical RW mar..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

It is a reference to the comic book character Spider Man and his heightened abilities of the senses.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: Re: How long does the typical RW mar..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

I think because of how you worded your first post, some people think you are a weenie or a troll. You may have touched a sensitive spot with the insinuation that their women will take anything that comes along including them..

My call is you just did not know how to get your question out there in a way that would be well received.

Don't let them run you off.

Hey, I will tell you one thing, if Jack has offered to meet with you and answer questions and you do not have time to do it. Well you do not have time for this venture my friend. If you were really interested, you would find the time plain and simple. That comment that you do not have time does make you sound a bit like a  troll.

You see, how you have entered this is not uncommon to some trolls of the past. So, if this is not the case, then hang around and everyone finally will figure it out.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Well------------, posted by thesearch on Jul 30, 2002


Lemme see...

"Did you get a pre-nup?" and

"How long do you think your marriage is going to last, anyway?"

Those are common Troll statements/questions just slightly reworked.

The guys who come on here and ask "stupid" newbie questions are usually asking things like:

"What is a good agency to use?"

"How can I best find a woman? A Personal Ad, or a tour..."

"What's an acceptable age difference"

That sort of thing. And those questions aren't really stupid, its just that there are no clear answers for them, and the best answers come from the archives, anyway, since we have discussed them to death.

When someone comes on and asks one of those questions, I usually, as politley as I can, suggest that they read the archives... since that is really the best advice.

Someone who comes on asking "How long can I expect a marriage to one of these women to last?" certainly seems suspect... then when he TURNS DOWN an offer from an EXPERT (and if he has read this board at all -- or even took the time to read Jack's profile -- he would know that Jack is probably more experienced in this than anyone!) ... and the expert offers to buy him lunch and answer ALL of his questions... But he is "too busy?"

Come on Greg... What is he? Sincere?

So, he touched a nerve all right... that nerve that says the last thing we need on here is another troll...

[BarryM]

... in response to We've just heard it all before, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 31, 2002

No one here can say for certain that KingC is a femi-nasty troll. It doesn't matter. Trolls usually show themselves after a short time. Always give them enough rope to hang themselves.

-blm

[thesearch]

... in response to We've just heard it all before, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 31, 2002

Now,

I agree that his approach is typical troll and I got the sense that Jack was thinkin the same thing (perhaps)  However I am going to go against the crowd on this one - being he ain't no troll.

Wanna bet that dinner on this one? The odds are in your favor don't ya think?  From my experience, trolls always finally dump their load on us eventually -- just having fun sucking us into their story first.

Na, this won't work, as if he does not dump on us you won't buy into the fact that he is legit, yet if he unloads as trolls do, I lose. There is no way I can win this one even if I am correct. The only way is if he stayed around a long enough time and evolved in the process that  we see those seriously getting into finding a lady from the FSU.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Hey you lost out on that bet you coulda ..., posted by thesearch on Jul 31, 2002

Yeah... you're right... the only way I could be convinced that he is not a troll would be:

A) If he actually has lunch with Jack

or

B) He actually "goes over" and meets someone.

But... yes... I'd take that bet in a minute...