How long does the typical Russian wife marriage to a non-Russian in the USA last?

I suppose one could call me a newbie.   At this point, I just want to gather info on the Russian wife scene.   What has intrigued me about women in Russian seeking marriage in the USA (or other developed countries) is that the Russian women seem beautiful, well educated, and not incredibly picky (as compared to American women who are very beautiful and intelligent) about who they marry.  What I would like to know is how long these marriage typically last.  Does any have any data on this?  What are the pros and cons of seeking marriage in Russia?  Thanks.

... in response to How long does the typical RW marriage la..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

in front of a computer and ask hypothetical questions to determine how to spend the rest of his life. And how many answers does this KingC need to receive before he gets the answer he is looking for (notice I did not say correct response). And if KingC is not serious about looking for a life partner in the FSU and is just entertaining himself asking questions that only God 'might' be able to answer-how long will KingC keeping asking questions before he is satisified and prepared to make a life decision.

Answer these questions and I will answer all of yours!
Ok I will answer yours now.
drum roll................Answer to the million dollar question!....................................................................................................................................................................................it all depends!
Joe

... in response to How long does the typical RW marriage la..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

I suppose that question may seem not so important to some but I have my doubts that everyone takes the time to even think about the possiblility that all RW and AM marriages could end in disaster and need to learn all they can.

I think you recieved some good post below (the ones that where helpfull in their reply). One point made that these women are strong and can't be controlled is very true! They have a different view of life then most people we meet here and some of it may be shocking, but again they're from the other side of the world so you must be able to deal with this and be open minded and understanding.

As for divorce rates even if they do leave after 2 years doesn't mean it was the green card thing, I know my first marriage wasn't a full 2 years (AW) but if I was close to getting a green card I would wait.

I know of AM and RW that are happily married but they treat each other with respect and no controlling involved and they look compatable, and I know couples where one is controlling and butt ugly, jelious, and just a real downer guy to be around and is married to an extravirt, indepent, and very attractive RW and this marriage is a disaster! ( I can't see it lasting much longer) Her green card is in the mail so to speak but if I were her I would have left him and took a shot at another way to stay here without induring the agany of being around this guy. She still defends him when something is mentioned about his behaivor and wants nothing from him if she were to leave him but I suspect once any women hires an attorney in the states the lawyers seem to make this a war for money (which puts more in their pocket) so even that kind of statistic can be misleading.

We rent an apartment in Moscow to mostly AM and we've seen all kinds. Some girls come there from a far away city to meet this man that she has talked to and e-mailed and ends up spending a lot of time calling her boyfriend back home who she misses, and then we get the couples that everything works out great. If you're the kind of guy that can't see the truth or are unable to see the real you and your faults and you look at this situation as a cure for being alone and having yourself some arm candy that will eat out of your hands then your chances of success is slim in my opinion.

Bottom line is what kind of person are you? A good provider,pleasent personality,no charactor deffects, and the ability to look in the mirrow and know deep down you like that person will take you a very long way!

Best regards
Mike

... in response to Re: Re: How long does the typical RW mar..., posted by MarkInTx on Jul 31, 2002

Mark,
the first thing you should realize is this board is more for those in need of advice and help at least that is what I'm assuming, your post to this man was far from that.

I'm not concerned about the poll of this group as I doubt I would gain any reliably figures sense there are probly more readers then posters. Look at the number of hits this board gets and if you notice many of the posters are writing every day and SOME I'm sure have very little long term expereance with Russian women and their way of doing things.

In my first post I did ramble a bit and really didn't answer one of this guys questions. He wanted to know how is it that these beautiful ladies can fall in love with the not so handsom man, well from what I'm learning about this is that they tend to be more interested in security. If they have this love will follow and they will remain dedicated PROVIDED the man isn't an insecure control freak or has some other bad charactor defects, or he may live with his parents or something very uncomfortable to her, or simply the life here is way to borring or the adjustment is to much for her.

There are some guys out there that feel they are saving these mostly happy girls from a life of agany and expect and demand that they be treated like a god for saving the RW. This same beautifull RW may see him as a man that could never have a beautiful girl such as her and she expects him to treat her like a queen. (I've seen this too) and these kind of clashes also exsist. It's like anything else you either get lucky or you don't even if you're the wisest man.

Mike

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: How long does the typica..., posted by MarkInTx on Aug 1, 2002

Kingc wrote
What has intrigued me about women in Russian seeking marriage in the USA (or other developed countries) is that the Russian women seem beautiful, well educated, and not incredibly picky (as compared to American women who are very beautiful and intelligent) about who they marry.

I took the word "picky" to mean the older, or unattractive,or they just have problems,or all 3, and the rest seems to go with it.

As for this board you are correct I suppose but it seems to me if you can't help, or discuss a topic then you serve no purpose in attacking a poster. One can simply read the next new post or go back to work or somthing constructive

again that's just me and my thoughts.

Mike

... in response to How long does the typical RW marriage la..., posted by KingC on Jul 30, 2002

That is what the typical troll will tell you as that is when the green card is hers.

The bottom line is no one knows that facts about this. The INS has a lot of data but I am not sure they have it in any form that they could easily retrieve to possibly shed light on all of this.

I met  the former head of the INS for the Northwest at a dinner party. We had a long discussion. It was clear that he did not have any concrete data merely his opinions.
His  impression was that this is all very risky business. I also had a conversation with an INS worker from the mid west.  She told me she handled several cases where it was clear the women had an agenda and they were getting away with it. She said that women would claim abuse and the men were considered guilty without any real proof. She told of one man who was kicked out of his house with no end as to how long that would last while he paid for two households.

I consider all this as being single events. They are worth noting but nothing to come to some sweeping conclusion other than caution is in order.  

I am sure that someone could get a grant to look into this.

... in response to Re: two years., posted by MarkInTx on Jul 31, 2002

The fact is, an immigrant spouse can get divorced shortly after the change of status from the k1 visa and still get a green card. The INS states that they recognize that people get divorced all the time and a divorce before the 2 year span would not disqualify an immigrant from receiving a green card.

-blm

... in response to Anyone have ideas on this?, posted by thesearch on Aug 1, 2002

I've read where women end up staying here and never getting married! I suspect that could have been because of abuse?? ( it's been a while sense I read it) I do know that once she recieves her conditional card/stamp in her passport she is free to go and that could happen in a few months after getting married but if she is required to attend an interview 2 years later to remove her conditions as long as the marraige was entered in good faith she will get it, also most states will not give her welfare because of her not being a citizen which takes 3 years to appy for after getting a 10 year green card if married, or 5 years if divorced after getting a 10 year green card. As for the RW I've met so far all have too much pride to apply for welfare.
Mike