About last night......

[thesearch]

... in response to Speaking of which..., posted by MarkInTx on Jul 12, 2002

Mark,

I will address that later in a new thread in a few days

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Speaking of which..., posted by thesearch on Jul 16, 2002


Hope it's good news :-)

[tfcrew]

... in response to About last night......, posted by Mark H on Jul 11, 2002

...now David SD? This is a "jerk".
If you have lost touch with all previous relations here and abroad (listen to me) ...it IS a roll of the dice and you take your chance. Putting my chips on the best bet came easiest with experience. Something...no one can teach
Karl

[yoe]

... in response to About last night......, posted by Mark H on Jul 11, 2002

You are probably more educated on the FSU scene than anybody here! Asking is would be like asking the pizza delivery boy hot to make great pizza pie.
I personally feel that you just were not ready. That is my opinion of course. So my great advice is to go with what you know. Now that you are done with your education you can empty that part of your brain and think more of that lovely woman who is waiting in Eastern Europe right now waiting for your email. Good luck
Joe

[keithandkatya]

... in response to Mark I have some bad news............, posted by yoe on Jul 11, 2002

I say this because I rarely agree with the rantings of Yoe Joe but I have to agree with the point that I believe you were not ready... LOL I guess even a broken clock is right a couple of times during the day...This is only opinion so take it for what it is worth... I have followed your story longer than most people on here including yoe... only exception perhaps ken c. I have at times been exasperated by some of your posts and at other times heartened by some of your posts. I think you are sincere in wanting to find a mate but I think the reason you were not successful was because you were not ready.... Here is a clue Mark... an opinion I will probaly get alot of silly heat from others about... THERE IS NO PERFECT GIRL OUT THERE FOR YOU!!!. Repeat it 100 times... Live it, learn it, love it!! But do not let your heart be troubled... there are many very good women out there that if you let them (by changing some of your thought patterns)will make you an excellent wife  Mark-- no matter who you find there will always be something that you will have to learn to live with... Did you ever watch Seinfeld???  I remember one episode where Jerry says to George... What are we?? We are acting like children. Every girl we find something we do not like... sometimes it was something as trivial as how she ate her vegetables... one pea at a time LOL that drove Jerry crazy.  Now the thing is Mark... I was single for a long time... and some of that time I was quite happy being single... there is always good points and bad points but then I reached a time in my life where I wanted to be married. When this happens you have to be sure about it... because being married is fantastic but it is different... you will have to give up some things you have in the single life... some selfish things and the rewards are great but still you have to give these things up... you have to be understanding... you have to go with the flow... no pun intended lol... you have to be 100% per cent committed to making it work... okay I have to go... and this letter is long... I remember all your adventures.. and I hope I have not said anything that got your dander up... I have only said some things that I hoped would help... I believe in being a straight shooter... and the other caveat- I only know you from your posts so take it all with a grain of salt-- you know yourself the best- so to your ownself be true as the bard said... all the best,
Keith

[Mark H]

... in response to Did hell just freeze over? LOL-- very..., posted by keithandkatya on Jul 12, 2002

Keith,
Thanks for the input and my dander is not up! I keep it controlled most of the time these days. If I remember correctly, George and Jerry decided to get married....we all know what happened next!

Mark H.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Did hell just freeze over? LOL-- very..., posted by keithandkatya on Jul 12, 2002


It takes me longer to warm up than that post :-)

But I thought what it lacked in length it made up for in intelligence :-)

[Mark H]

... in response to Mark I have some bad news............, posted by yoe on Jul 11, 2002

Joe,
You're right. I am ready now and perhaps that is why I'm not going to take this AW's crap. I'm regrouping and deciding how, when, where, and who with for my next trip. I'm thinking of going as early as August 24th. We'll see. I have 9.5 days off August 24, I gotta go somewhere. Thank god I didn't buy the tickets to France that I had reserved. No way am I taking this chick to france.

I don't think I was asking for specifics, just some ideas. I'm kind of stuck in the idea department. Not sure whether to go Russia or Ukraine. It's been a while since I"ve been involved with the FSU thing, most of my old "free" sites don't work anymore. Just looking for those kinds of tips on sites, etc....

Mark H.

[Zink]

... in response to Re: Mark I have some bad news.............., posted by Mark H on Jul 11, 2002

If you can read or translate Russian easily I have some free Russian only websites you could try.

[Mark H]

... in response to How's your Russian?, posted by Zink on Jul 11, 2002

Zink, would love to try them. Post them or email me:

stockmanmark22@nospam.com

[Robert D]

... in response to About last night......, posted by Mark H on Jul 11, 2002

Hummmmmmm   sounds like the reason I did not date for a while.   Me lots of women looking at me as a way to retire, the others I felt more like a past time.   I am great alone. I cook better than most women I know, don't mind being alone, have many interest, travel, sailing, reading, etc.  But when I get involved I make sure the other person knows that they are important.   I would like to feel the same in return.  Not that I am a personal retirement account, or just someone that is good to go to parties and have everyone impressed by status.   I am not sure Russian girls are the way to go because of the difficulty in getting to know someone here and taking the year or more to really trust them and take the risk.  So it is hard under the current immogration climate for me to consider a long term relationship or marriage with a few months of e-mail, and a few meetings, not to mention the issues of culture etc.  I also do not know if having someone you like very much come here with the expectation and pressure of "will he like me enough to keep me" That sort of seems like K mart shopping and deciding you got a second and returning it.   Just seems like a way to hurt peoples feelings over and over until you find the right one.   I would feel terrible, and did, when I met just one lady in St. Pete, and spent time with her and came home.   I suspect I felt badly because her expectations must have been very high, and mine were more of a real interest to see if such a thing could work.  
   I guess I write this not to lecture but to say, I admire those who found a good mate and are happy.   I am more impressed with the faith they had in each other to take the leap of faith with someone they could never really get to know until they married them.  Perhaps I have commitment issues?  I don't think so.

Robert D.

[Mark H]

... in response to Re: About last night......, posted by Robert D on Jul 11, 2002

Robert,
Doesn't sound like you have commitment issues, just a good head on your shoulders. I agree with all of your points and I do think of those things. I wonder if we can truly know these FSU women well enough in letters and a few meetings to trust them in marriage. It is a good question, one that deserves alot of contemplation. I think you will know, like MarkinTX does, when you find the right one. I've spent wonderful vacations with beautiful FSu women and am still not engaged or married. They just weren't the ones, it's that simple. I'll keep looking though! Good luck to you and perhaps just take a chance, in 100 years none of it will matter.

Mark H.

[Robert D]

... in response to Re: Re: About last night......, posted by Mark H on Jul 11, 2002

I think I will not again try a Russian woman.  I  liked very much the one I met and she was very nice.  Just to difficult to get to know them so far away and I am sure I hurt her feelings a bit.  
Too much catholic guilt I guess.
But I admire those who try and have success and the faith to take the big step into marriage with someone they do not know that well.   Perhaps I am just to cautious.

Robert D.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: About last night......, posted by Robert D on Jul 12, 2002


... then what WILL you do?

You know... if I were a devout catholic, I would seriously look SOB...

[Robert D]

... in response to So, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 12, 2002

sorry I am not clued in to the internet lingo.   What is SOB.   The catholic guilt thing is a left over as I do not practice that or anything else.    But through 12 years of catholic school before college, well it sort of finds its way into parts of my being when it comes to attempting to be fare to others. I think it is funny some times.
that was all

Robert D.