Don't trust the Asian mind

[Thomas D.]

I personally have steered away from all asian women when it comes to marriage on the advice of an older man who used to approve navy marriages to asian women.  He speaks fluent language and used to hear the women talking as they applied with thier husbands present.  They would talk about how ugly the man was and how they can't wait to dump him after they get thier green cards or permanent visas.  He did followup on these marriages and saw how the women's attitudes would change after marriage and certainly after two years.  

I'm sure I will get flamed and people will point out relationships that they know that have lasted for years and how happy they are, etc...But I submit as a whole, Americans should take the lessons of history and not trust the Asian mind.

I personally know two men who have married Asian women only to have them completely change after marriage and have to host and support their extended families and be practically run out of their own house.  The asian mind only knows one thing:  survival at all costs.  ME  ME  ME

On the advice from my neighbor who has seen it all:  I've ceased correspondence with all Asians period.

[YourDreamWife]

... in response to Don't trust the Asian mind, posted by Thomas D. on Aug 5, 2001

There are many risks taken when an older man marrys a younger Asian wife -- both for him and his wife. That some men later get dumped is a fact. That's why it is SO important to take your time to get to know your potential wife and delve into all aspects of the relationship prior to signing the papers. You cannot eliminate the possibility of making a mistake, but your chances of making a MAJOR (un-recoverable) mistake will be diminished. M

[Patrick]

... in response to Don't trust the Asian mind, posted by Thomas D. on Aug 5, 2001

I suspect the men marrying Russian women are going to have a lower success rate (http://www.planet-love.com/divorce.html).  I would trust statistics over anecdotal stories like the one you heard.

Better to be more realistic in who you pursue rather than where.  Women who are half the man's age and much more attractive are, in my mind, a greater risk than any geographical region.

Please limit your posts to the Russin forum from now on.

[Jeff S]

... in response to Don't trust the Asian mind, posted by Thomas D. on Aug 5, 2001

Sure wish I could speak that.

[Bob S.]

... in response to Fluent Asian, huh?, posted by Jeff S on Aug 6, 2001

Sumimasen.  Watashi wa "Asian" wakarimasen. :-)

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: Fluent Asian, huh?, posted by Bob S. on Aug 6, 2001

Actually he lumped all of Asia in one neat little package without referring to any specific country and only told us his source spoke fluent language. For an area stretching from above the arctic circle to the equator and from the Ural Mountains to Japan, it encompasses literally hundreds of languages. His warning not to trust the Asain mind includes in excess of two thirds of the population of the earth. Glad to hear there's one old ex-navy guy who knows that many people and can understand them all.
-- Jeff S.

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: Fluent Asian, huh?, posted by Bob S. on Aug 6, 2001

Anata no Asian-go wa jozu desu ne!
-- Jeff S.

[Bob S.]

... in response to Re: Re: Fluent Asian, huh?, posted by Jeff S on Aug 6, 2001

Domo arigato, gozaimasu.  Maybe someday it will be true.
(_ _) *bows*

Speaking of which, Goldenwest College is offering a Nihongo evening class this Fall.  I should sign up this week if there is still space in the class.

[Jeff S]

... in response to ...Asian-go wa jozu..., posted by Bob S. on Aug 6, 2001

Cool! That should be fun. Is it a beginning class? I know some people you can practice on ) I'm planning to get serious about learning to read and write kana again. I'm where I can figure out most hiragana and katakana but very slowly. I only know a few kanji, though, not enough to read a newspaper. Rika has kept a bunch of her children's books written in only hiragana and I'm planning to get to the point whre I can read and understand them.
- Jeff S.

[Bob S.]

... in response to Re: ...Asian-go wa jozu..., posted by Jeff S on Aug 6, 2001

"Is it a beginning class?"

Yeah, it's a 5 unit beginner's class 2 nights a week for the whole Fall quarter.  It advertises as being an introduction to not only the spoken language but also a little of the writing and some aspects of the culture.  Right now I don't know ANY katakana or hiragana but I can recognize a few Kanji (sun, moon, river, mountain, man, woman, tree, etc.).  Any learning would be good, though I doubt I'll ever get to the point where I can watch an Akira Kurosawa movie without subtitles. :-)

[Dingo]

... in response to Don't trust the Asian mind, posted by Thomas D. on Aug 5, 2001

Wow Thomas you wanted a reaction and you got one.
Now go home and bore your own family.

[Dave H2O]

... in response to Don't trust the Asian mind, posted by Thomas D. on Aug 5, 2001

Thomas,

As you may or may not know, after victory in the Spanish-American War (1898), the United States got into bloody conflict in the Philippines(1899-1902) over our desire to annex the Philippines, due to it's strategic importance. It was known as the Philippine-American War and is considred by many to be the "first Vietnam," a guerrilla war fought on distant soil against a foreign people, over the right to self government.  The US eventually prevailed and relations improved over the years. During W.W.II, the Japanese committed many atrocities in the PI against soldiers and civilians alike. The Filipinos and Americans fought side by side against the Japanese occupation. They lived, ate, starved, suffered, were captured, died, escaped, or were liberated by McArthur together. The Filipino and American solders and civilians gained a deep respect and admiration for one another. A love that at least from the Filipino perspective, endures to this day, almost 50 years later. I received "the mano" (blessing) by several elderly Filipinos and most of the young children. At one point, there was an attempt in the US to make the Philippines the 52nd state (behind proposed 51st-Puerto Rico), but eventually independence was granted. In general in the Philippines, anything American is considered superior...including husbands. Which AW's know, is not always the case. ;o)) I personally was shown nothing but friendliness, smiles, kindness, and calls of "Hey Joe" while in the Philippines.  

As for the Russians, East Europeans, or even the French, please tell me about their "love" (strong dislike) for Americans. The French have already forgotten about the Nazi occupation and American liberation during W.W.II. I once heard that they wanted the "Statue of Liberty" back, saying they had only loaned it to us. LOL

Dave H.

[KADAMS]

... in response to A Short History Lesson..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 5, 2001

History is great, and it is good to see that you have given the facts without the Big Spin Doctorin', that it what is missing from todays' news.

good luck

[Dave H2O]

... in response to History without the Spin?, posted by KADAMS on Aug 6, 2001

Hi KADAMS,

I am learning a different perspective of Philippine history from the Internet, books and people. When I was in school I learned how we helped our "little brown brothers," who would have been lost without us. On the other hand, there were several other nations waiting to step in, had we not.

Dave H.

[yorktr]

... in response to A Short History Lesson..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 5, 2001

If I am not mistaken, the Guerilla war was over by the mid 20's, shortly after which the schedule for eventual Philippine independence was set.
Despite the Japanese occupation, Independence occurred pretty much on schedule in 1947.
The big Gringo actually kept his word, and didn't try to re-annex the Philippines in light of the then emerging Cold War.