No, I'm not looking for a madam.

[Jefferson]

I'm wondering if this would be worth a try or if it sounds too "out there". This is going to come off as arrogant but for those who don't know me, I assure you, I'm a happy go lucky guy who is very down to earth. Would it be ridiculous to contact an agency or two and after building a rapport, ask them to help you personally? By this I mean that, for example, I would say to Luz Amparo, "I'm 34 years old, 6'4 - 240lbs, never married, without kids, and I'm looking for the most beautiful, grounded, down to earth gal I can find. Salma Hayek rings a bell for me. I live on a ranch a half hour north of St. Paul / Minneapolis (side note: yeah guys, I know, the Vikings really suck this year) and whoever I end up will have a comfortable life full of fun adventure. I'll send you a few pictures of me as I'm confident of the result. I'll pay you well to help me as I don't want to come down and look through books or spend time at some 'social'", etc. It sounds like it would be the way to go because Luz Amparo (again, for example) would earn good money and word of mouth and I would have a gal who knows them all working to set up a few possibilities for a trip to Colombia. Upon arrival, you check in at the hotel, then your off to meet a 'custom set up'. I know, it's kinda amusing (maybe sad!) but I like to keep all options open and if something works, great!! On the other hand, am I in need of a strong slap in the face to get me back to reality? On second thought, I just opened up the doors for ridicule and that's why my 'subject' says what it does. Be nice, damn it!!  

[puckster]

... in response to No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Jefferson on Nov 13, 2002

I have a Luz Amparo. In fact I spoke with her sister tonight, both really attractive women. She is really looking too.Answers her Email. One thing I suggest here is to do a cam call.I feel like you might be able to get a better feel for the person your going to meet.
In any case may not be neccessary to go through all the expense of these socials.
One thing I did and it worked was to gather physical addresses and phone numbers, when you get to the hotel pay an employee there some extra cash to deliver them or to make some calls. When you are there in the city your response rate goes up 100 percent.You get all the dates you can handle.Be prepared to spend some time at this.

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Jefferson on Nov 13, 2002

Jefferson

The sister of my fiancee married a man who lives on a ranch about an hour outside of Dallas.  She hates it (living on the ranch).  She wants to move to Dallas.  She has said once she gets a job she's moving and he can decide if he wants to move with her or lose her.

You probably see where I'm going with this.  A lot of girls in Colombia may say they will be happy living on a finca (farm) just because they want to get to the US.  Be sure you find a woman who will be comfortable living there.  For many years.  

I'd be happy on a ranch for about 2 days, but that's me.  Most girls in Bogota or Cali are the same way.  They are big cities.  I live in a large, beautiful apartment complex with about 1000 residents, but there are very few people to be seen outdoors.  Even that is a big change from Cali where you see tons of people on the street wherever you go.

About asking Luz to match you up...why not go to the agency and work with her.  You will enjoy the experience and no one can ever predict if there will be chemistry will a particular couple.  You have to roll up your sleeves and break a sweat.  I promise you it's not that bad.

Steve

[Pete E]

... in response to Ranch/Farm Alert!, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 14, 2002

The Colombianas I know including my wife are not at all impressed with the rural life.For a gringo the idea of a home on a hill with alot of land and no neighbors might be appealing.Its the last thing the Colombianas I know want.They like living in the city with alot of activity around.One of my friends lives in a small town of 10,000 or so.My wife said no way she would want to live there.Another lives in a town of 50,000 or so.My wife was also not impressed.
We live in San Jose California,population one million with 2,500,000 in the immediate area.Its not really big city,just lots of suburbs and malls.My wife likes that fine.

Pete

[Aaron]

... in response to Ranch/Farm Alert!, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 14, 2002

It depends on the girl, and of course where the ranch is located.

I live on my parents' farm. We don't have any animals, but allot of land. It's 45 minutes away from the city in a nice rural suburban neighborhood where most people kill trying to move into.

"Would I like to bring my wife here, build a house, and stay on my family's farm?"

Well, I have to say NO primarily because the city and area doesn't have many Latin people. There isn't much that I find interesting where I live, and I think many Latinas would feel the same.

That's why I'm working and saving to have a home somewhere I would like to be.

Now on the other hand, if my family's farm was in an area with more latin people, then I would definitely consider staying and building a house on my parents' farm.

There would be more advantages than a guy would think. Let me lists some:

1.) The land is paid for already.
2.) A guy could build a nice home, with some really nice things, like a swimming pool, some horses, orchards or vinyards, flower gardens, etc. etc.
3.) This is a major plus, a guy and his wife could make provisions to bring her family to the USA, and have some ground where they could build a small house too.
4.) Privacy.

These are major things that many latinas would probably like, given that they are not totally secluded from reality, and there are many opportunities to go into the city when they feel like.

Also, keep in mind most of the people in the higher socio-economic classes in Latin America have farms with small guest houses where they can visit, even if they still live in the city.

Don't be discouraged.

Aaron

[BenKramer]

... in response to I don't think the ranch is a bad thing....., posted by Aaron on Nov 14, 2002

Aaron,

I also have always lived on a farm and would like to find latin woman that would like to live in the country. There can be many advantages for the right person such as riding horses everyday, tending flower/vegetable gardens, more room to exercise like biking running/walking and swimming if you have a pond or a pool. There is also plenty of room to let the cats and dogs run. I am hoping that some women would love the peace and clean air that country living would bring instead of the noise and pollution of the cities. With the internet the world is a much smaller place and easily allow contact with family anywhere in the world.

In the near future I would like to explore the idea of investing in a ranch or farm in South America. Since I really despise the cold weather that northren Ohio brings this time of year, SA would be a great place to go after the crops come off in the fall. Ben K

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: I don't think the ranch is a bad thi..., posted by BenKramer on Nov 16, 2002

Living in the country side has allot of advantages, especially when living in a rural suburban community with a good school district.

I think there are many Latinas that would appreciate this. However, let me be honest, that most likely they will be more mature and older, even if they had children already. Don't count on the young ones to appreciate this.

In your case, I wouldn't consider any woman less than 35.

Buying a farm in SA is another good idea too. Property there is really cheap, and you could always employ farm hands for cheap.

My parents have a small farm of about 13 acres. Originally, they bought 24 acres, but my dad sold parts of it to his brothers and sister so they could have some land. However, out of the 24 acres, my family is the only one with a house and lives here full time.

My parents want to by something a little larger, of about 50 to 75 acres within a couple of years.

I would like to move to a suburban area, and purchase no more than 3 acres for myself and family. If I want to move to a more rural place for more land, then I can go home.

By 35, I would like to have a decent sized house for a 4 person family on 3 acres. And, a decent house in Colombia on 1 or 2 acres.

I like land, but I'm going to let my parents invest in buying property, and I'll reap the benefits.

Good luck,
Aaron

[Ken2]

... in response to Ranch/Farm Alert!, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 14, 2002

My future x freaked when she arrived at the farm althought she had seen fotos of the place.

[DavidMN]

... in response to No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Jefferson on Nov 13, 2002

Hmmm...I know of one other person who lives on a "ranch" a half hour north of MSP and he's about 6'4" and enjoys wearing feather boas

[Hiker]

... in response to No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Jefferson on Nov 13, 2002

Jefferson,
If I were you I would forget this approach.  I understand what you are saying I think.  You want to make the best use of your time.  You want get right to business.  We probably all travel to our country of choice with these same plans and hopes.  In my honest opinion it can be a recipe for disaster.  The best thing you can do is get on a plane.  The second best thing you can do is learn a little spanish.  You might meet "her" on the first trip and you might not.  You sound like a man in a hurry.  This is the one thing I would not hurry.  It almost sounds like you are buying a wife, although I am sure that is not what you intended.  If you are looking for a quality woman I would change my approach.  If you are looking for eye candy to wear on your arm then this would be the way to go.  just my 2 cents.

[wendell]

... in response to Re: No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Hiker on Nov 13, 2002

is move from the boonies of Minnesota...from an ex-Iowan. Go Hawks.

[wendell]

... in response to Re: No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Hiker on Nov 13, 2002

is move from the boonies of Minnesota...from an ex-Iowan. Go Hawks.

[Jefferson]

... in response to Re: No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Hiker on Nov 13, 2002

Thanks Hiker,
Your probably right. Yes, I was hoping that I could somehow pay someone enough to gather 3 of their best gals (to schedule a dinner or conversation) with high morals and a strong desire to pursue the idea of sharing life with an American in the states. They would be terrific looking and not into games, using you, etc. My spanish isn't incredible but it works. I've tried the 'just go' approach in Mexico and Puerto Rico and always thought afterwards, "if I do this again, I'll make sure I develop a rapport with someone to truly help me". You hit the nail on the head, I like to keep things moving and this is no different. I notice your from Texas. I lived there (Garland - suburb of Dallas) for awhile with a great gal, Priscilla Martin. Do you know the name? Without getting into it, she is well known in the metroplex. Good luck to you and thanks for the reply, I appreciate it!!!!!!!!

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: Re: No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Jefferson on Nov 13, 2002

That most likely, the higher you raise the bar for your standards for a partner, the longer it will take to find that person. AND the longer it takes to find the right person, the more money you'll need to spend searching.

The reality is that this method of searching for a partner requires financial resources and patience if you and the lady want to succeed. Yeah, you can have some fun meeting various women, but always remember your ultimate goal.

This year alone, I'll will have invested about $3500.00 USD in cash when considering plane tickets, agency membership, accommodations, and fun money. I make a budget and timeline 3 to 4 months in advance for each trip.
I consider it an investment because I'll have membership at 3 different agencies in Cali. This broadens my options.

Aaron

[JSlo]

... in response to Re: Re: No, I'm not looking for a madam., posted by Jefferson on Nov 13, 2002

There are a couple of agencies that offer VIP services, the prices are really outrageous but the service exists to cater to clientele like yourself. I can't remember those who offer the services you describe, but with a little effort, I know you will find them.  
You are right, the Vikings really suck.  My advice is the same, you should get on a plane heading south, or to earth from your location ;-), and select a beauty for yourself. There isn't any substitute for the chemistry or lightning felt when YOU find someone worth pursuing.
My 1.00 worth,
JAS