Mexico City ..2nd trip

[A1A]

I have just returned from a week in Cuidad de Mexico.  Like anywhere else, it is what you make of it.  Too much for one post, so here are some first impressions..
 The airport is easy to go thru, I had only carry on luggage, I was thru immigration and customs in 15 minutes, waiting for MC was another story.  On my last trip she was always 30 to 45 minutes late for everything.  She said she would meet me at immigration when my plane lands at 3:15 Sat., well by 4:30, no MC, so I have a chance to watch the masses of Mexico walk by.  I love Mexican women, but I'll tell you, 90% of the population is not very appealing to my eye.  Few attractive women at the airport, though when you see one, they really stand out.  Finally at 5:30, MC arrives apologizing, this is a light red flag to me, it is a respect thing.
 Traffic back to her place never ceases to amaze me .  Six lanes bumper to bumper at all hours, similar to the Los Angeles freeways, sometimes 70mph, moments later stopped. Drivers are total idiots, cutting in, total caos, but what amazes is there is no road rage, a few horns but no obscene gestures or anything like that.  I'd have an ulcer in 1 week driving here.  MC is calm, nothing bothers her on the road.
 The purpose of this trip is to see if things move from friendship stage, to a novia, novio relationship.  More on that next time, along with the old city, food, and of course, montezumas revenge.
A1A

[Wayne1]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

Over 2 hours late...give me a break!

Explaining away just plain lousy behaviour to a cultural difference is asking for big trouble in the future with one of these women.

Her being that late shows an extreme lack of enthusiasm for seeing you.  Expect the same treatment and respect for yourself as you would show her.  I'm sure if she was flying to the US, you would have been to the airport at least 30 minutes early.

Funny if this is a cultural Latina thing, my Colombiana wife seems to not have that "tardy gene".

Sometimes it is hard to keep both eyes wide open with this International dating thing, but critical for long term happiness.

Wayne

[mck]

... in response to Re: Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by Wayne1 on Jun 23, 2002

It really is a cutlural thing with Mexican women. I am not joking either. It was not something she did on purpose out of disrespect. My novia is Mexican and had never been 2 hours late but has been 30-45 minutes on occasion. Mexican time is very different then ours AND in Mexico I have had girls show up 2 hours late.

[John O]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

75 minutes late? At least she apologizes. There are many Latinas I've known (mostly colombianas) who are allergic to apologies. Punctuality seems as much a cultural thing to me as a respect thing. There are punctual latinas out there, but they are definitely in the minority. You'll have to decide how big a priority this is to you.

It reminds me of the guy who complained about his Colombian girlfriend's lowbrow sense of humor. Again, I've found that there are sophisticated latinas out there who understand our North American humor (sarcasm, irony, etc.), but they are definitely in the minority. However, I'll trade a sweet, impunctual, less complicated latina for a punctual, witty, sarcastic, high-maintenance gringa any day.

90% of Mexicanas don't appeal to you? I congratulate you on finding someone who does. Hope it works out. My students are mostly Mexican immigrants, and many of the ladies have beautiful faces, but I favor Colombians for their faces, bodies & personalities. Perhaps because there are fewer Mexican "beauties", the ones who are tend to be as stuck-up as many gringas.

It's all a matter of personal taste and opinion, of course. (Your mileage may vary.) No disrespect meant to anyone.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

With a few exceptions I think being late is an incorrigable latina bahavior. When I really got on my novia about it she showed up on time...once then quickly slipped back to the old schedule. Now I only agree to meeting places where I have something to do while waiting like drink coffee and look at girls, read the paper or take a nap. At first she wanted me to wait outside my apartment for her when she came over since there's no buzzer. I sat outside once waiting for almost fourty-five minutes then went out and got her her own key to the building. Now I can read and relax in the apt. and when she shows she shows.

Looking forward to the rest of your report. As to hanging out at the an airport I'll take Cali.

[Pete E]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

I was never impressed with the numbers of good looking Mexican women anywhere I went in Mexico.Doesn't even start to come close with my Colombian experience.Not to say they don't exist,they just seem more rare.Even if you browse the latin agency sites that cover all latin counties it seems  most great looking ones are from Colombia or Venizuela.
Of course my Mexican experience is limited.Maybe there are places.
Yeah,2 1/4 hours late shows little respect or interest,unless there is a very good reason.If traffic is always that bad its a big red flag.
Sounds similar to Colombia with the driving and horn honking.Its part of driving,offense not usually taken.Here its much different.I try to explain to my wife do not honk unless there is a good reason.She really got me one time,I am driving and she is reaching over and honking the horn and I get the dirty looks.(DON'T DO THAT!!)One time she was driving and a lady in fronts car stalled.You could see she was trying to start it.My wife starts honking.The lady gives her the middle digit.
I told my wife about a license plate frame I saw once.It said"Keep honking,I'm reloading".You can get in lots of trouble in the wrong parts of town.

Pete

[Ted]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

90% of the population not appealing to you, huh. I wonder what they think of you when they see you. I suupose you a Ricky Martin-look a like. Respect goes both ways, buddy.

[colman]

... in response to Re: Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by Ted on Jun 23, 2002

People have a right to opinionate here. A1A's comments may have been insensitive to some people but at least he's honest. I believe the purpose of this board is for people to post, share and exchange info. with others. It seems some people in this forum are obsessed with a colombia vs. mexico, colombia vs. venezuela and so on. Hey people get it through your thick heads, some people prefer one type of women from a specific country for various reasons compared to other women from different countries and you are not going to change their minds.  You can try to convince, plead, use potions, brujeria, tranquilizer, put a gun to their head but the fact still remains, people have their preferences and the only ones that are going to change them is themselves. I have two examples to futher demonstrate my point. Having a conversation with a co-worker a while back and anyway bad neighborhoods came up and I told him that I would not venture out late at night to some of these neighborhoods. The co-worker accused me of being racist! Chicago is notorious for gang-bangers, and people here know where some really gang-infested areas are and avoid them as much as possible. Two neighborhoods in Chicago that are very dangerous at night are Pilsen and Englewood. Not the whole neigborhood but just some sections of them (any Chicagoans can verify this), anyway how am I being a racist? True, Pilsen is about 90% Mexican and Englewood is 90% black (embarrasingly, chicago is probably the most segregated large city in America). Well I explain to this guy my point of view but he still insisted that I was a racist. My point is that I avoid these sections because of the violence and gangs not because of the ethnicity of the people whom live there. Here is another point a black guy in New York mugs a passerby for drug money, a white guy in Detroit car jacks a car hoping to score some money for smack, a Latino in San Francisco steals an ATM card and hopes to withdrawl cash for some crack--the point? All these people have something in common. They all robbed for drug money, not because they were black, white or latino.    P.S. I am a diehard fan of Colombians and Brazilians---Colman

[robbysanjuan]

... in response to Re: Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by Ted on Jun 23, 2002

Thanks Ted, that general message is lost here. It makes you wonder why some guys have problems with women from where ever.

[greg]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

enjoy hearing from Guys on Mexican Women. You noticed a few beautiful women at Airport? Would you say your MC stand out as a Beautiful Mexicana? Look forward to reading your trip report. Thanks

[Michael B]

... in response to Mexico City ..2nd trip, posted by A1A on Jun 23, 2002

It's not a 'respect' thing, it's a Mexican thing, she would be late to pick up her own mother.....now add the trafic. I would not consider this a red flag.