I found a nice latin woman...

[Richar4567]

I found a nice latin woman and now we are together in US.
There are a lot of brazilian women at www.agenciadenamoro.com/carametade_ing.htm
I found my wife there.
Her sister is there also.

[NW Jim]

... in response to I found a nice latin woman..., posted by Richar4567 on Jun 1, 2002

Richard,

As HODA says below, tell us more about your story and the agenciadenamoro.com agency.

I checked out the site it has the Planet-Love Premiere Site logo, so I'm sure Silvia could arrange with Patrick to have a link put on the Agency listing page for Planet Love.

It does appear that this site is a great improvement over the LatinEuro/Braziladies.com site(s), guys on this board have consistently criticized the lack of info that those sites provide about the lady. Competition is good!

It is not against the rules for owners to post on this board, so long as they have something constructive to add. If Silvia wants some feedback about her site, we would be more than willing to provide it.

[Richar4567]

... in response to Re: I found a nice latin woman. More, posted by NW Jim on Jun 1, 2002

Hello NW Jim,

In July of 2000 I joined the agency and I found the woman of my dreams. Her name is Cristina. I´m 45 years old and she is 27. I first wrote Cris in September of 2000. She said that she loved me from the first letter. She is a wonderful and loving brazilian woman. In January of 2001 I traveled to Brazil to meet her. We decided to get married during the week that I was there. We are married and very happy now!
About the agency, I said the address before. www.agenciadenamoro.com/carametade_ing.htm and it´s a very serious agency from Brazil.

Richard

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Re: I found a nice latin woman. More, posted by Richar4567 on Jun 1, 2002

share with the guys your approach to letter writing. More info is needed on the agency. What if guys don't write & just want to visit the agency? Does the agency provide living arrangements on site or must a guy get his own at a near-by hotel? Does the agency provide translators? What level of Portugese, should the guys have? And just to play the devil's advocate. You've been married for over a year, right? Why did you choose to post now? If you were asked to post about your experiences by the agency owner, that's kool, no problema aqui!!! We just like to know, where guys are coming from. Brazil is still uncharted territory for many. Your post about a REAL AGENCY in Brazil, undoubtably (sp) will raise a few eyebrows. Thanks for posting & please keep posting to satisfy the Brazilian Nuts..lol

[NW Jim]

... in response to Re: Re: I found a nice latin woman. More, posted by Richar4567 on Jun 1, 2002

Richard,
Congratulations! You said that you and Cris are now in the USA. How long did it take to get the necessary visas, etc?, did you do it yourself or hire an attorney?  

I gather from your writing that you learned English in another country, is that experience helpful in aiding Cris with her transition to US culture? What has surprised her the most about the USA?

Best of luck.

[Hoda]

... in response to I found a nice latin woman..., posted by Richar4567 on Jun 1, 2002

Would it be too much to ask for some info? Right now, this just looks like a post to dodge Patrick's rules against ad's on the board!!!

A little "who, what, when, where, why & how" about you & search, would be helpful.

[Richar4567]

... in response to Err...Excusa mi....., posted by Hoda on Jun 1, 2002

Yes, you can ask me what you want. If I can help...

[Cali vet]

... in response to Err...Excusa mi....., posted by Hoda on Jun 1, 2002

You mean you noted the Brazilian e-mail address?

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Err...Excusa mi....., posted by Cali vet on Jun 1, 2002


Yup C-Vet,

I noted the Brazilian e-mail addy & the fact that the gentleman has been married for over a year & is just finding us. If this agency proves reputable, how the hell did it remain under the radar for so long. Brazil hasn't been neglected or shunned here. Nobody short of "Abrutha", "Happy in Brazil" and a couple of others, have posted anything regarding a "Real" agency in Brazil. For those Brazil fence sitters chomping at the bit, this could be a real breakthrough! Somebody, could be making some serious cheddar, if they take agency model in Colombia & adapt it to Brazil!!!!

[Richar4567]

... in response to Re: Re: Err...Excusa mi....., posted by Hoda on Jun 3, 2002

Hello Gentlemen,

My name is Cristina, I´m Richard´s wife. I´m a brazilian woman very happy to be married with a wonderful american man. I´m living in US for 7 months and I´m loving it.
My husband ask me to report it for you and help you to find a beautiful brazilian woman, like him did.
If I can help you in something please tell me. It´ll be a pleasure for me. Also I would like to say that the agency I was member is a very good agency in Brasil. They are respect and serious. I can give the e-mail address if you want.

Regards,
Cristina

[pastilla100]

... in response to Re: Re: Err...Excusa mi....., posted by Hoda on Jun 3, 2002

Adopt the Colombia model to Brazil?  It appears Brazil already has their own model.  I came across an article written several years ago about Brazil.  According to this article, marriage agencies are actually a socially acceptable part of Brazilian culture matching Brazilian men and women.  This is unlike Colombia where marriage agencies are an artificial import introduced by American men.  Note that one of these agencies has a branch in New York City.  I am discovering that Brasil is a huge big world that guys on this board seem to know little about.  The key to taping into this world is to learn Portuguese.  

Excerpt from article "More sex please!  We are Brazilian".  

Match-maker agencies have been sprouting all over Brazil. All of them, however, seem to have the same problem: more female clients than male ones. Paimi (Primeira Agência Internacional de Matrimônios e Informações - First Internacional Agency for Matrimonies and Information), for example, has been in business for 50 years and has offices in São Paulo, Rio and New York. With 3,000 clients, the Cupid helper charges around $1,000 plus a bonus when there is a marriage. They say they have made "4,000 unions" including that of Harry Philippe Mihalescu who is the owner and son of Paimi's founder.

Apego  another matchmaker company from São Paulo has been recruiting their male clients aggressively even with ads in men's magazines. But really aggressive is Partner's owner, who is known only as Vicente and who goes personally to singles bars and night clubs to convince men to join his company

Happy End has dozens of connections in the US and Europe and more than 2,200 clients. To use the services of this company founded in 1992 clients pay around $1,000 and $1,000 more after 3 months of courtship. One of the newest kids on the block is Apego  a service created by Inge Gruber, an Austrian woman who sold her apartment and used the $80,000 she got to start the company last year. The cost here varies from $150 to $800 and the number of clients has already reached 500.

In Recife, the Brasil Exterior agency  is specialized in finding husbands in Germany for its clients. After seven years in business, the service which has a catalogue of more than 1,000 women, has contributed to close to 200 marriages. In an interview with Veja magazine last year, Lindinalva Santana Ferraz, the company's owner declared, "We don't admit sexual tourism or gold-diggers." Every time there's an "I do" Ferraz gets rewarded with $1400.

Contrary to what we may think, most of Lindinalva's clients are not poor girls looking for an easy way out of their misery. By and large they are middle-class women who have a college degree or at least have finished high-school. By the way, completed high-school is one of the requirements to make the list. Many times they are women disillusioned with Brazil and Brazilian men. Their average age is 20.

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Err...Excusa mi....., posted by pastilla100 on Jun 3, 2002

I'm curious as to why Brasil Exterior service is justed geared to "Germans". Some of what you memtioned seemed a bit costly to me. That "bounty" fee once you decide to get married, would encourage some guys "Never" to get married & just continue to date the lady. Oh BTW, the agency business in Colombia isn't an "artificial import" by Americans. The intro business has been established "decades" before the current agencies now residing there. This info was posted some months ago by my Colombian sister. Seems like the intro business may have started some time after the construction of the Panama Canal.

[pastilla100]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Err...Excusa mi....., posted by Hoda on Jun 4, 2002


Hoda asks:  "I'm curious as to why Brasil Exterior service is justed geared to 'Germans' "

This agency is located in Recife, which is a popular tourist location for Germans.  Europe is actually geographically closer to Brazil than the United States.

As for the Colombian agencies, as far as I know, they are exclusively in business to match Americans or other foreigners with Colombian women, whereas in Brazil they have agencies which match Brazilian men with Brazilian women.  

The same article I mentioned written by Rodolfo Espinoza claims there is a man shortage in Brazil:

"If the battle of the sexes is an unequal one all over the world, women in Brazil have still another handicap: their sheer numbers. Census data show, that among those Brazilians between ages 15 and 49, there are 1.8 million more women than men in the country. That means an average of 95 men for every 100 women. In urban centers like São Paulo and in the Northeast this imbalance goes up to 85 out of 100."

"Some experts believe that this will contribute to 10% of Brazilian women never having a chance to marry. According to census data, in Rio de Janeiro for example, the state where this difference is more pronounced in absolute numbers, there are 315,056 more women than men."

"To complicate matters, while there are 4.2 million divorced or separated women, the number of men in the same situation is only 1.9 million. This shows what everybody knows: that it is much easier for a separated man to find a new partner than for a woman. The official numbers also reveal that 80.6% of the 37,000 divorced men who decided to remarry in 1994 chose not-previously-married women. As for widows, there are 4.5 millions of them in the country compared to 870,000 widowers."

"This female disadvantage is explained by the so-called "solitude pyramid" theory. Interviewed by the daily Folha de São Paulo, Elza Berquó, from Unicamp's (University of Campinas, São Paulo) Núcleo de Estudos Populacionais (Center for Population Studies) explained: "Women look at the top of the pyramid where the offer of partners decreases, while men look at the base which is larger. The matrimonial market always favors men."

"This state of affairs has in practice encouraged the number of non-official marriages and in some cases even a kind of mild polygamy in which men have more than one partner. The rate of marriages has been decreasing. While there were 7.48 marriages for 1,000 people in 1986, these unions had fallen to 4.96 in '94. There were 763,000 weddings in 1994 compared to 1 million in '86, when the country had a smaller population. "

In a 1992 study entitled "The contraction of the matrimonial market and the increase of consensual unions in Brazil" two foreign scholars, American Margaret Greene and Indian Vijayendra Rao suggested that society allowing men to have more than one partner makes it possible for women to be married at least once and helps to alleviate the problem of the deficit of available male partners.