Just A Thought

[Keith Smith]

I've noticed that there has been a couple of threads regarding comparisons between foreign women and American women. Personally, I prefer a foreign (Latin) woman because of my experiences many females here. Don't get me wrong. I will NEVER say that ALL foreign ladies are nice and AW are bad. But after a while, why would I want to deal with a female who is arrogant, selfish, money hungry, self-righteous, ungrateful, and beligerent? In my experiences, most of the AW I dealt with never wanted my company. However, these same females wouldn't hesitate to be with some cat who was into negative things. With many foreign ladies, MANY of them were kind, intelligent, very appreciative, and had a good sense of humor. That's what I like. Nevertheless, there are always going to be some individuals who will not hesitate to criticize those gentlemen who wish to seek a foreign bride (or those who HAVE succeeded). Personally speaking, I would call those individuals either APOLOGISTS FOR AW OR FEMINIST MEN. I refuse to be either one. Hopefully, I will be with the right woman, soon. BTW, to the person who critcized Colombian women: have YOU (not friends, associates, or relatives) visited Colombia? If not, then you shouldn't be so quick to criticize. Later.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by Keith Smith on Feb 16, 2002

I think AW are very representative of our culture and because of this it seems unfair to single them out as arrogant, money hungry, ungrateful, beligerent etc. without realizing that these statements could just as easily be applied to AM.  I think your view is a popular one among men who have been hurt or feel frustrated by the dating scene here but IMO this type of frustration would be better directed towards the problems we have in our culture as apposed to berating AW.  

I have a lot of friends both male and female and the frustration isn't limited to just men.  As an example, if you're a beautiful woman, dating and finding a large pool of men to choose from is easy.  But if you're not a beautiful woman, things can be just the opposite.  I have a female friend who is my age, she's smart,  funny, traditional, comes from a great family,  but men don't find her attractive and so she's become everyone's best friend but nobody's love.  Sad but true, women are often judged only by their looks, something they have very little control over and something that diminishes with time.  A guy on the other hand at least has some control on how he is perceived by women.

My own view of the MOB movement as a whole is mixed.  I think it could be a very good thing or it could be very bad depending on the motivations and sincerety of the participants.  I'm not convinced yet that going South is all about love either.  For some people yes but I've seen too many examples on both sides of the equation where love wasn't what was motivating the union at all.

El Diablo

[Keith Smith]

... in response to Re: Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

El D, as I mentioned before, I will NEVER say that ALL foreign women are nice and ALL AW are bad. I do speak from experience. You are right about many AM having those same characteristics (arrogant, selfish, etc.). In spite of it all, I STILL WANT THAT FOREIGN SISTER. Thanks and take care.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Just A Thought, posted by Keith Smith on Feb 17, 2002


Fine I have no problem with you wanting a foreign sister.  I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know but New York City, the city where you live has one of the largest concentrations of Colombians outside of Colombia itself.  A couple years back I visited a Colombian amiga out on Long Island and was surprised to learn about the huge population of Colombians in Queens and Jackson Heights.  My amiga herself was a recent immigrant and there are many of these foreign sisters right in your own back yard.  Have you ever considered looking in Queens?

El Diablo

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

Naaa....

Why go to a dangerous place like New York, when you can go to a peaceful place like Cali? ;-)

[Keith Smith]

... in response to New York???, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 17, 2002

Mark, THAT IS "OFF THE CHAIN"!!!!! I had to laugh! Thanks.

[Keith Smith]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

The truth? No. Yes, Jackson Heights, Queens has a large concentration of Colombian immigrants (I don't know the exact number). A few of my clients are Colombian immigrants. El D, I'd rather go to the source. Later.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Just A Thought, posted by Keith Smith on Feb 17, 2002


OK so you prefer the source.  But from a practical aspect traveling to the source is a lot more difficult than dating the same or similar Colombian women in your own back yard.  When you travel to Colombia you have little time to actually get to know a person.  Knowing someone in the environment they live, like NYC is a big advantage.

So I'm curious, tell me what it is about the source that appeals to you more than the large group of recent Colombian immigrants in your own city?

El Diablo

[Keith Smith]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

El D, personally speaking, I enjoy the travel. In my travels to Colombia, I've really never had any problems (regarding safety). If I have problems, it's when I return to the U.S. (see my previous posts regarding U.S. Customs in Miami). I was born and raised here (live and work here, too). I suppose I prefer to be with someone who is a little old fashioned. That doesn't mean that I'm a male chauvenist. I just don't want to deal with someone who would try to curse me out (if I ask her a simple qusetion). From my experience (not just Colombia), many ladies tend to be more friendlier overseas. My opinion, of course. Later.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re:  Just A Thought, posted by Keith Smith on Feb 17, 2002


I enjoy traveling too but all else being equal I would prefer to find a wowan for marriage here in San Jose.  It's just a lot simpler to get to know someone where you live rather than in a foreign land on one week vacations.  Now it seems to me, a legitimate reason to look in other countries would be if things are in fact not equal.  For instance, you've indicated you prefer a more old fashioned woman and one who is more friendly and you perceive foreign women as having these qualities while AW are somewhat lacking.  OK I understand this and if true it could be a legitimate reason.  But I'm still curious, aren't the recent Colombian immigrants in Queens foreign women and therefore more old fashioned and friendlier?  

El Diablo

[Michael B]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

Well, I can't speak for Colombians in New York, but reguarding Mexicans here in Dallas, the recent immigrants all tend to be the lower class, poorly educated ones. Not that this makes them 'bad' people per se, but the educated ones still HAVE jobs and Mexico and aren't about to give up an office job or profession to move up here and be a janitor. Maybe a few of the super rich or doctors or such do move up here, but the "two years of college and I work in a bank" and/or school teacher type lady (that I'd like to meet) is staying put at her school or bank job in Mexico. I can meet Mexican janitors and waitresses all day long, a lot of them quite attractive, and almost all of them very nice, but I'd still rather have one with an education than not.

[El Diablo]

... in response to A reason to go to the 'source', posted by Michael B on Feb 18, 2002

I agree that education would certainly be an important facter to consider.  I only know a few Colombians that are recent immigrants but did not arrive by marrying an American.  They are all very educated and come from the wealthier class in Colombia.  You must remember that  your typical Colombian, male or female, can not arrive legally here in the United States unless they are highly educated (work Visa),  come from the upper crest of Colombia society (student or tourist visa), marry an American (K-1, Spousal Visa) or damm lucky (Visa lottery).  

My own experience in the agencies of Cali is that in general the women come from families of less wealth and education.  Bogota agencies seem to me any way to have a broader based representation of women from differing economic and social statuses.

El Diablo

[Keith Smith]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 17, 2002

El D, SOMETIMES give SOME newly arrived immigrants enough time, their behavior/attitudes will change. Once again, I'm NOT looking for a submissive woman BY ANY MEANS. But,I don't need an ungrateful or domineering woman, either.  What I'm looking for is a woman who I can love and respect, who will do the same for me. That's not a lot to ask for. Later.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re:  Just A Thought, posted by Keith Smith on Feb 17, 2002

It sounds like you are suggesting the new Colombian immigrants in Queens become different with time, their attitudes and behavior change when they arrive in the United States.  If you truly beleive this, would a Colombian woman who marries a gringo be any different?.  Wouldn't you expect her to change similarly?

[Keith Smith]

... in response to Just A Thought, posted by El Diablo on Feb 18, 2002

El D, it's not just a 'Colombian' thing. Many (not ALL) immigrants have a tendency to change over time when they arrive here. The reality is: I just don't want a woman who is based here. Later.