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[Lori]

Hi Guys,(and Gals),
First I want to say the reason I have not posted. I am kind of embarressed of how I reacted to Greg's post awhile ago. I have started this post many times only to delete it. I am not one to throw around my words, but most of the time when I post I do not have time to think because I am always in a hurry. Tonight I got off work early and the kids are at my sisters house. Who wants to gamble on Easter?? We are always dead at work Easter weekend. When will my bosses ever learn?
Well anyway, I wanted to say that I have never experienced predjudism for being an AW in my life. The first time is on here that I have ever heard such negative comments about who I am. And I am not saying that anyone has directed anything towards me personally. So, please understand that the way I have reacted in the past is becuase this is all new to me. It scares me and it saddens me, qand I don't know how I am supposed to react to it. So for now on I just won't react to comments made about AW's.
I am here to learn and to share what I am going through with others who are in the same boat as me. I am aware that I would not have learned half of the things I have if it were not for the members of this board.
Sooooo, I'll stop the tampo, and get on board, if you'll accept me back as a member
That's all....Lori

[Lori]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

Thanks for the warm welcome and the enlightenment you gave me. Some of the responses really suprized me and made me feel good about this board.

You are all a bunch of good men and deserve to be happy. Good Luck to everyone...

[Bear]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

I guess I do not read enuff of the posts.  I had not noticed any particular negativity directed against anyone since this board came up under the new format, other than good natured teasing.  Especially since Harry diasppeared and CBF calmed down ;-).  I am sorry to hear you felt any specific animosity directed towards you. Marissa feels the same way because of comments people made about her being "immature".  She worries that her arguments were effecting my posting here so she just reads them but rarely comments.  If you read back she usually only comments in defense of me.

At one point because of misunderstandings I was getting a lot of flames directed towards me.  But once every one decide I was a kook they just let me post and didn't comment (hehehehe).  Sometimes it is hard for people to understand others and they quickly jump to judgements.  I find that if I "re-act" to my first opinion I often make poor choices.  But if I think about it for a while I usually make a better decision based of characteristics I wish to "act" on.

I do not dislike anyone here, MOF, I think I learned a lot by listening to their idiotic mumbo (just teasing fellas).  I think many make choices and decisions that I wouldn't and I know that they have directed the same comments towards me lots of times.

Don't let anyone get you down.  They believe in their hearts they are correct.  Everyone feels their way is the best way and it truly is for them.  But everyone also knows that it always between your prayers and Heavenly Father.

Bear

[Cecil]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

Hi Lori,  

What a great Easter present to have you back!  As you know the most vocal critics of those seeking a foreign wife tend to be AW's.  They see our persuit of foreign wives as an indictment of AW which of course it is.  They will say such things as "can't you find a date here", etc.  I even worked with an AW woman who would monitor this discussion board to see if I mentioned anything about her.  As Ray always says I don't care who you are married to so why are you so concerned who I marry.  The point is that since we get so much bigotry and insults from AW's there is a natural tendency to fight back rhetorically.  My mother considered herself very liberal politically but she depised seeing a white woman with a man of a different race.  One time when I was a young boy  we got in a taxi with a white woman and a black man and my mom said It's too bad that she had to settle for a black guy and she can't get a white man.  I agree with you Lori that all of these forms of bigotry are ignorant and hurtful but unfortunately you and I can't change the world by saying nothing.  When you marry Thai, you may encounter people just like my mom and what will you do.  I personally feel sorry for the first person that makes a prejudice remark to my wife.  Some one said that the only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men(and women) to do nothing.  I am glad to welcome you back!

Cecil

[Lori]

... in response to Re: tampo this and tampo that, posted by Cecil on Apr 15, 2001

Cecil that I'll probably get alot of flack here in america for marrying an asian man, especially because he is Vietnamese.But I am ready for that. Some people just can't put the war behind them. Which is probably understandable for those great men who fought over there.
When I tell someone I am going to Vietnam, they say things like "It's so dangerous!!" "Why would you want to go there?" "Are you crazy??" Some people are so uneducated about vietnam. I just try to expalin to them how we have reciently opened up trade sanctions with them  blahh...blahh.. Things have changed in 25 years.
I am lucky where I come from there are alot of mixed marrages. So, I am hoping we fit right in. But I am aware that we will probably get some "looks" and stares, and I'm ready for that. We'll just have to take it one day at a time.

[Howard]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

Lori,

I know I haven't been around much lately and it seems that you left right around the time I came back.  What does that have to do with anything?  Heck I don't know, I just noticed the time line LOL!

If you remember I supported you when you came on here, so I'm not gonna stop now.  It just doesn't seem like we can ever really answer each other's questions.  Nevertheless, I have always thought that your pressence here was genuine and will do what I can to participate in your discussions, like you have those of the others here.

The only advice I have to give is to stop trying to fight a battle you can't win.  You will never change our opinions on the women we have dated, married, divorced, etc...  I know it may seem that there are definite anti-AW sentiments here--I mean c'mon, look where you are :c)--but the reasons are just, in most cases.  I personally don't have an anti-AW thing going on.  My mother is an AW!  LOL!  But, I understand why others feel the way they do.  I could easily feel that way myself, I don't know why I don't, I just know that I don't.

For many this is the last outpost of sanity and intruders--those who don't buy the company line :c)--are often dealt with harshly and swiftly.  It took alot of tragedy to bring most of us here and most of us are not interested in arguing our motivation.  We know that we have done things wrong in the past, but we have been wronged as well.  I'm sure most of our situations are not unlike your own, but you can't fight the battle to get us to be what you consider to be fair to American Women, when we feel we have been treated so unfairly, that we are trying drastic measures to find acceptence.

American Women are just like American Men, most aren't worth fighting for.  But those men and women that I have gotten to know here are.  

I am not one to judge.  Most here will treat you the way the feel they are being treated.  Most of us would never judge you simply because you are an AW, so don't judge us simply because we have chosen to marry women from another country.

We can all play nice in our little cyber-sandbox:c)  Just don't mess with the blue bucket, that one's mine :c) LOL!

Welcome back!

H

[Lori]

... in response to Re: tampo this and tampo that, posted by Howard on Apr 15, 2001

I wanted the red bucket anyway. But I'm glad you didn't want the purple bucket, because then , my friend, you would surly have a fight on your hands from Dave...hehehe

[Dave H]

... in response to that's o.k...., posted by Lori on Apr 16, 2001

Hi Lori,

Thanks! I need to stay color coordinated.

I got called all the time for cats "stuck" in trees. I stopped trying to get them down after the first couple of times. They do a very good job of scratching you up, even with a heavy coat and gloves. Sometimes I would let rookies have a go at it, if it belonged to a nice looking lady. ;o) Usually I would ask the people how many cat skeletons they had seen in trees. Then I would tell them that the cat would come down when it felt like it...or I could shoot it down with a tranquilizer gun, but it might break it's neck in the fall. They always prefered to wait. ;o))

Another strange call we used to get was, "boy with penis caught in zipper." =8-0 Usually at elementary schools. I had two in a row one day. Sometimes we would bring in the K-12 power saw just for fun. ;o)) First we took care of the poor kid. Then we would fire it up, just to scare the Hell out of the school staff and students. ;o)))

Dave H.

[Lori]

... in response to Cats and Zippers, posted by Dave H on Apr 16, 2001

reminds me of  the movie "What About Mary". I actually close my eyes during that part...scarier than a horror flick!!!

[jon]

... in response to ouchie!!!!, posted by Lori on Apr 16, 2001

[Dave H]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

Hi Lori,

Welcome back! You've been hanging around with your Filipina friends too much. ;o)) I tried emailing you several times but it kept coming back. It is probably just as well. My efforts to make you laugh would probably have caused you nightmares. =8oO

I don't have any negative things to say about AW's, Filipinas or Asian women in general. But, just don't get me started on LW's and FSU's. Whoops...sorry! Just kidding!
Actually, I love all women...that is my problem. No...no...no...not what your thinking. I find them all beautiful, in their own unique way. I am a one woman man. Once I make my mind up about someone, I stick with them through thick or thin. I am more loyal than the family dog. ;o) ruff...ruff

Maybe we should have a sensitivity form to fill out on PL. It could be placed in our profiles. That was done on my fire department. We wrote down all of the things that we didn't like. It was supposed to make others more sensitive our needs and dislikes. It worked really well. We were able to put guys through 20+ years of Hell. ;o)) I wrote down all of the things that I liked and got 20 years of pleasure. ;o) Anyone that wants to email me things that piss them off, can do so. I will keep it in strict confidence. ;o)))

No one needs to accept you back as a member. Just kick the door down and come on in. ;o) Oh...you should have tried the handle...it wasn't locked. We were anxiously awaiting your return. ;oD

Welcome back again!

Dave H.

[Lori]

... in response to Nice Tampo! ;o)), posted by Dave H on Apr 15, 2001

sorry about the E-mail. It's supposed to be lori_mckenna. Somehow that space  didn't show up.
BTW-- how many little kitty cats did you resque when you were a fireman?

[humabdos]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

Lori most of us guys are here because we are sick of AW's! But that does not mean we are sick of you! LOL  Welcome back we missed you!  Humabdos

[Lori]

... in response to Re: tampo this and tampo that, posted by humabdos on Apr 15, 2001

I'm here because I got sick of AM's. The funny thing is.... I was always picky in the men I chose... No drugs, light drinker...had to have a job for at least 2 years stable. Don't care about looks, high income. Actually, I think it is just the area I come from. Too many drugs in this town. Heck, I don't even hang out with my old friends because they are still "potheads" I keep thinking they'll grow out of it. I visited my childhood friend the other day, and she lit up a bowl right in front of my 3 year old. She kept saying we used to be so close. I replied to her, when I can visit you without you lighting up a bowl in front of my child, then we can be close again. Funny thing is, she has 2 small ones also. I wonder if she is smart enough to know that what she is smoking her children are also smoking....stupid!!

[Jeff S]

... in response to tampo this and tampo that, posted by Lori on Apr 14, 2001

Sorry for you having taken our locker room banter personally - it's a guy thing (see Morena's post below in response to cc's) It's nice this board has bright women like you on it. And - Happy Passover.
-- Jeff S