My Story Part 7

[H2-Oh]

I came around the corner and Johanna saw me. She looked surprised but didn't act happy to see me. The doorman let her in and she came over to me to give me a kiss.....I backed away from her and that set the tone of the next 2 hrs. Itold her we needed to go to see Veronica and talk, she said fine. We arrived at Latin Love and sat down with Veronica. I asked Johanna what she wanted for her life and she told me that she wanted to go to school and to work. She said that she didn't want to depend on anyone for her money. I said that was fine with me it was her life and she could do what she wanted. I wasn't mad at her, I just wanted to hear what she wanted to say. She apologized for the cigarettes and for drinking all the booze, she had been under alot of stress. I asked her about the dozen roses and she said "I bought them". I said you did, then what about this? I pulled out the card from my pocket and she turned red as a tomato. She was caught. I told her not to bother to explain anything...I knew everything was a lie. I told her" you want a new life, let's start today. She said she would need a few days to get a room with her aunt. I told her I needed to start my new life today, she had to leave now. She was scared and a little upset, but she didn't cry, Johanna never cries.
   We drove back to the apt.and saw her mother who was sitting at the pool. Johanna and I went over to her and sat down. Johanna asked what happened to her face and her mother told her. Sometime during the next few minutes I think Johanna realized that her world was coming apart. I got the 3 trash bags full of clothes and led Johanna and her mother to the front door. Freddy and Martha where waiting in Freddy's taxi. I asked Martha in and spoke to her for 5 minutes and told her what happened.She cried, then I told her to take care of Johanna. Johanna had lost another 8 pounds and was about 96 pound now. She looked bad and sick. I was concerned about Johanna. I told Martha to find a psycologist and I would pay for Johanna to go and talk about her eating disorder. She said she would. When  I came out with Martha, Johanna was smoking a cigarette. It seemed right to me.Her new old life.
   I have since found out many things about Johanna. She was sleeping with my driver, Jose Luis in the apt. She did go to a finca the few days before I arrived. The problem is that it was a finca that was owned by Mafiosa, really bad guys and Johanna was that weekends flavor. Finca are used for two things, to get away for the weekend and to have partys. To drink and have sex.She didn't care, she only lives for the moment. I felt very sorry for Johanna and very fortunate to have all this happen before I brought her to the states. In the next few days that followed, I received approx. 30 phone calls at the apt. all from guys for Johanna. How many guy was she sleeping with?? It didn't matter now, I was done. One thing Johanna always said is that she didn't want to be like her mother. Well she was not like her mother......she was worse. Good luck Johanna.
To be continued My Story Part 8 .....A new beginning.

H2-Oh

[DaveyRich1]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

HOWARD,
THE STORY IS REALLY WILD SORRY SOME OF THE GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND I DO NOT KNOW YOU PERSONALLY BUT FROM WHAT DIEGO PILAR AND MARIA HELENA HAVE TOLD ME YOU ARE A GOOD GUY WILL YOU ATTEMPT TO START ANOTHER RELATIONSHIP WITH A COLOMBIAN? JUST CURIOUS GOOD LUCK PLEASE TRY TO FINISH THE STORY SOON
                     TAKE CARE
                             DAVEY

[H2-Oh]

... in response to Re: My Story Part 7, posted by DaveyRich1 on Jul 20, 2001

Keep reading

H2-Oh

[beattledog]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

sad story, but probably true

[JunFan68]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

Let's not forget how this started.  I think some people are starting to feel sorry for you H2O, but I'm not one of them. I'm sure you are a nice enough guy, with the best of intentions.  It's bad enough that you got swindled by a beautifal Colombiana, but the real bad part is you did absolutely nothing about it before it even started.  It's like you just said, 'here I am, take me'.  The only moral of this story should be to do your homework before you get married...not pointing fingers at her or sympathizing with H20. The percentages are bad enough as it is.

[yc]

... in response to Re: My Story Part 7, posted by JunFan68 on Jul 19, 2001

Hi JunFan68,

Just curious, please clarify your comment... "The percentages are bad enough as it is."

Thanks,

[JunFanTX]

... in response to Re: Re: My Story Part 7, posted by yc on Jul 20, 2001

I wasn't trying to win the Nobel Prize with that comment, just merely saying that the divorce rates are approaching 50% for all marriages in the US.  That's all.

Mike

[muddslinger]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

rule #1.... always look at the parents. they have the biggest influence on how a persons personality will be when they are younger. screwed up parents make screwed up grownups. good luck.

[Edge]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

of that might help guys to guard against some of these women running the same subterfuge is to check out the family.  Get to know the parents, how was she raised.  Apparently, Johanna did not have the best mother.

I remember when I met my future suegra and after we were talking awhile, she mentioned that she felt lucky because all of her girls always liked to stay at home.  I have found this to be true of them.  They are not always out running around.  I was able to see all the family photo albums, things like that.  

I have yet to see any flags, let alone a red one and I know it would much harder to hide if I was not able to get close to the other members of her family.

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: One way I know..., posted by Edge on Jul 19, 2001

Say......Edge congrats on your fiance visa approval.  What's the latest?  Is your fiance excited about going to Bogota for the interview?  And are you going back to Cali, Colombia before she finally leaves for the States?  BTW you're too smart for red flags. You see 'em and then deal with 'em.  I wish I was as smart with women as you are.

[Edge]

... in response to Re: Re: One way I know..., posted by buzzy on Jul 19, 2001

I am not so sure about me being smart with women.  I wasted a number of years pursuing AM, especially the last one I had, 8 years and not much to show for it.  The one good thing to come out of that relationship was my resolve to never again waste more time on someone like her and to look somewhere else where a woman might appreciate AM.  I appreciate your compliment though.  You find a good one and she will make you look smart.  

I would say the novia is about 4-6 weeks away from coming here and she is getting excited and I know a little sad to be leaving her world behind.  She is really close to her family.

At this point I do not have any plans to go to Cali until next year.  I would love to head down there before but I have too much to do now.

What I need to do is to get you off the fence so you can find a woman who appreciates all you have to offer, which is
mucho, mi amigo.

[Chris F]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

If you have made the decision to give more money to help her with her eating disorder, please tell everyone on this board that you are going to pay the psychologist directly and not give the money to her mother to take care of it!!

Thanks for the story..many lessons to be learned here......

[H2-Oh]

... in response to Re: My Story Part 7, posted by Chris F on Jul 19, 2001

No the money goes to the doctor.

[denvermike]

... in response to My Story Part 7, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 19, 2001

Hi Howard,

I have been stunned reading your story.  We met at the bank and Latin Love last Thanksgiving (remember that dreadful Thanksgiving dinner!).  We headed down to Ave. Sexta for some dancing that night. I was with that super bimbo Amparo at the time. I dropped her like a hot rock after of couple days.  I can tell you, I thought you had done all the right things with Johanna. She looked like the type of woman we are all looking for by going south.

I have dated two more ladies from Cali since then with equally poor success.  I have also dated two Colombianas that happen to live here in Denver.  Maybe it is my bad luck or poor judgement on my part, but everyone I have met has been devious and underhanded in one way or another. It is like their personality has been distorted into a world of lying, distrust, and self interest.

I also have a good friend who is married to a lady from Cali for about a year now. They are still together but he has had one hell of a hard time with her. In fact the last time I talked to him, he said I think I am beginning to understand why so many Colombian men leave their wifes.

I have to admit it, I'm fairly discourged at this point about Colombian women.  I travel a fair bit to Chile and Peru, and I have not seen this level difficulty with relationships, so I think I will focus on ladies from those areas from now on.

Good luck,
mike

[AustinWife]

... in response to Re: My Story Part 7, posted by denvermike on Jul 19, 2001

I do not agree with you ( DenverMike)when you say Colombian men leave their wives becouse of one women like Johanna that we don't know. you should not judge all women in Colombia by their actions. I think the point here is that many "gringos" go to colombia looking for women much yonger and very beutiful !as a model! thinking that it will make them happier. To begin with we have different culture and ways of thinking different and when we arrive here you think !gringos! we'll forget our culture. probably, we told you when we begin dating that we would get used to your ! American culture and we believed it ourselves.  

I am a Colombian woman !married to American man! I have many friends and relatives who are happily married and they are still together.That doesn't say that I am not happy.I would said the same thing about marriege in the United Sted or any part of the world.
the only advise I can sey  you! gringos! don't look for some one that makes you feel insecure.  

good luck

carolina