Patrick, would it be at all possible

[buzzy]

... in response to Re: Re: So far, no good, posted by El Diablo on Jul 8, 2001

I agree with your comments...sad but true!(IMHO)  Good report.

[yc]

... in response to Re: Re: So far, no good, posted by El Diablo on Jul 8, 2001

Hi,

El Diablo, could you please elaborate on the comment... the road less traveled.  I have not visited Colombia yet.  But somehow for whatever reasons, I am getting this gutwrenching feeling that what I expect to see and what I will actually see when I get there is going to be totally two different things.  I am already seeing RED FLAGS!!!

Regards

[El Diablo]

... in response to The road less traveled..., posted by yc on Jul 8, 2001


Sure YC.....

The road less traveled: Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, Baranquilla, Guadalajara Mexico , Peru, women at least 25 to 30 years of age - women not girls

[DallasSteve]

... in response to Re: The road less traveled..., posted by El Diablo on Jul 10, 2001

Is Bogota less traveled?  I wouldn't think so.  It's Colombia's largest city and it's got its share of agencies.  I'm not knocking it, though.  That's where I met my wife, but Cartagena and Baranquilla sound better, and less traveled.  But if you want the largest number of ladies looking for a foreign husband in one city, I'd bet Bogota has even more than Cali just because of population.  1995 population was estimated at 5.2 million in Bogota, 1.7 million in Cali.

Steve

[JunFan68]

... in response to The road less traveled..., posted by yc on Jul 8, 2001

Cartagena, Barranquilla, ya know....the road less traveled.

Later,
Mike

www.sparhard.com/colombia.htm

[Michael B]

... in response to Re: The road less traveled..., posted by JunFan68 on Jul 9, 2001

Bucaramanga, now THAT'S less traveled

[MikePastore]

... in response to The road less traveled..., posted by yc on Jul 8, 2001

I have been thinking about the sames things and the way I view it is you have a real probability of success with the agencies in Colombia if you are not a total moron. You have to realize,however that this is a well-oiled MOB machine. You can't have it both ways, if you want the service, the books of girls to choose from and the "knowledge on the street " that a gringo husband is a great thing for a Colombiana, then you have to expect that there will be some bad apples thrown in there as well. Dude, you just need to GO! It will be a year before I can go, because of finances, but I am going. There are great posts from PeteE, DallasSteve,JunFanTX,and others if they can do it you can too. Hey go rent the movie, U.S. Marshals with Tommy Lee Jones. There is a scene in there where he has a drop-dead gorgeous Latina on his arm at a dinner party and it will give you a little inspiration. GO FOR IT!!!

[rick13]

... in response to Re: The road less traveled...- Some thou..., posted by MikePastore on Jul 9, 2001

That movie mentioned about the Columbiana with Tommy Lee is just that... only a movie! And real life would most likely go like this:

 Columbiana marries Tommy Lee in Columbia. Her American husband is the envy of all her girfriends. She is jealous of all the women that come onto him,but proud to have snagged a gringo.
 
   Tommy Lee heads back to the states with his gorgeous latina. She gets off the plane at the airport and notices a strange phenomenon.Men are tripping all over themselves when she walks by. Everywhere she goes ,the supermarket, the mall,men are trying to talk to her. Some young,some old.some even driving the lastest Mercedes.

   She goes home to Tommy Lee and realizes she did not get such a prize after all.Women in this country barely look as he passes by. None seems too interested.She wonders why?

She starts comparing him to all of the guys she meets and realizes a couple of the men hitting on her are the cream of the crop in any country.doctors,lawyers,engineers. Men who would not dare associate with her in her country,due to her lack of education,are now chasing her for serious relationships.
She has business cards,and out of curiosity she begins to talk to a few of these men.hey all declare love.These men  offer the world on a silver platter.

   One day she wakes up and takes a good look at her gringo husband as he sleeps. Older,weathered. Their home  pretty average compared to others in the neighborhood.  She wonders why she is wasting her youth and beauty on this man,when so many others with much more would spoil her. She never imagined men found her so beautiful. back home she was just a "morena".not a blond "rubia" all men desired.  But in the U.S. she is an exotic bird. a swan. She gets up and walks out the door to her new world.  Goodbye Tommy Lee.  Thank you for bringing me to this land of so much oppurtunity.

[genode]

... in response to Re: Re: The road less traveled...- Some ..., posted by rick13 on Jul 9, 2001

OK guys...I am mainly a lurker because I really don't have much substance to contribute. You see, I have not gone to Colombia yet. But I think this topic is a real downer for some of us so I wanted to butt in.

Rick13, your post made me think about something that never crossed my mind before. How do you keep her? After rereading this post and thinking for a few seconds, I thought that Tommy Lee didn't pick the right Latina.

But, if this was NOT the case and she was the right one, then what is it? Is it the age difference? the money, cars and big house? all the men tripping over her?

Let say she is the one for you. I can't buy into the fact that she would be lured away by other men. Maybe the fault then lies at the person you see in the mirror every day. So my question again for you seasoned veterans is how do you keep her?

To me, it seems that being too much older than her is already two stirkes against you and you're behind in the count. I guess my point is, if you picked the right one, maybe it is up to us to keep them from wondering and wandering.

Thoughts???

[rick13]

... in response to He thinks he'll keep her, posted by genode on Jul 9, 2001

I agree. Getting her is the easy part, keeping her interested and loyal is something else. I think men have to be wise in this search. By that I mean

#1. Choosing a woman who is emotionally healthy.just becauseshe looks good on the outside,does not mean she is not a mess on the inside. A woman who can only site bad relationshps with men who are "no good" may have relationship issues herself.If she was "always" the "victim' and allowed men to step all over her..... RUN! But if she can tell you why things in previous relationships went wrong,and can somehow see her role in break-ups also, then she is a keeper.                                                                                                         #2. Avoid overly flirty. I cannot stress that enough. I have seen so many AM with very flirty latinas and I always wonder how long it will be before she is gone. I also wonder though how these guys can be so blind to what their woman is doing.  I do not see anything wrong with flirting, but in a relationship, I would rather not have my girl do that. Also, if she is always in search of male attention,by wearing very sexy clothing even if she is not with you, I think she is inviting trouble.  Women are not stupid. They know a short skirt,and low-cut top makes all the dogs come out. These men thinking the woman easy prey constantly get hit on women who dress that way(sorry guys, but we all know that. put 2 women together,one dressed cute, the other sexy,and watch who gets hit on all day!)

. If I had a girl who alway wants to dress sexy just to run to the store by herself(there are ways to look sexy,that are not so obvious) I would wonder about her motive. Why does she require so much attention from others.    
  #3. How well can you communicate? Do you make her laugh? are you on the same wavelength?                          

   #4. Does she find you sexually attractive? I know most men will say they find a hot girl sexually attractive, but can she say the same for you? Is she hot for you? Or are you always the one making the moves? Men will try to rationalize and say a woman is shy,ect.  But I wonder at times. Women have sexual feelings too. Why is it a woman will put up with anything from a man she is sexually attracted to? This guy could be majorly broke,cheat,lie. But she has a soft spot there.  But usually dish out sex, as though it was a chore to another guy? Men, make sure you make her hot for you too. If she looks at you with a loving look in her eyes,and at other times with a loook that says"I cannot wait to be alone with you and attack!", she will not stray.MAKE SURE SHE IS AS HOT FOR YOU!!!!

   there are so many more ways to make sure you have a keeper, but I gotta go!:)

[Houndog]

... in response to He thinks he'll keep her, posted by genode on Jul 9, 2001

"Get a Good One to Pick You Next Time"...

Good Ones don't bail just because a guy with a busimess card tells them they are beautiful and how much he might love her if she will pull her panties down. Good Girls know the value of loving and recoieving love vs having ones ego stroked for temporary gratification.

HD

[Houndog]

... in response to Re: Re: The road less traveled...- Some ..., posted by rick13 on Jul 9, 2001

Your story has more truth to it than many will want to believe. In fact, it sounds very simular to a story of someone I used to know. A girl from a poor family in the Rio Grande Valley, that made it to the city, was elevated to middle class status, had her self esteem raised. And then was 'noticed' as you say by men who would never have associated with her in her own element, guys with business cards, professing love, at least temporarily.

HD

[rick13]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: The road less traveled...- g..., posted by Houndog on Jul 9, 2001

Unfortunately Houndog, too many men believe in the fantasy of that movie. But these women have a mind,and as you expand her world,her mind begins to work like anyone's would.  If you do not choose wisely,you can get a girl who is very competitive(unfortunately many beautiful women love to compete with other women for ego's sake). A girl who gets a taste of the good life,and wants more. Sees oppurtunity wants it ALL and then some.    

An immature girl will be flattered by all this attention from AM.  I imagne it is a schock to find out an educated AM who is upper to upper middle class has no qualms about dating you because you came from a background of poverty,and have little education.  It really must come as a shock that those same type of men who would only consider her as a misstress in her country,the type that was unatainable to her now chases after her.

[KADAMS]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: The road less traveled....., posted by rick13 on Jul 9, 2001

Good tale here,

New a guy from Central Alabama, married a HOT lady, both out of high School. He brouht this gorgeous country gal to Dallas and she attended Dental Hygeine School. Well, you know the story, pretty soon she was going out for "girls night out" not coming home on time, staying out late, the usual. Well pretty soon the sex stopped and she told him "I need some time to myself (IOW, I wish to have sex with other guys).

To close this Hotty filed for the Big D and I don't mean Dallas. She married the Dentist she was working for during the breakup, what a coincidence right?

By the way, he watches this board.........

[Houndog]

... in response to Alambama with a banjo.........., posted by KADAMS on Jul 9, 2001

Mine thought she was gonna marry the Doctor she worked for...funny how after the sex is outa the way..some guys move on...LOL...

Oh...I got the Gold Mine and She Got the Shaft...LOL my new Colombian Wife could'nt be happier about the outcome...

HD