The Desperation Factor.. C'mon guys, get real here

[genode]

... in response to Very true!  I agree!, posted by genode on Jul 9, 2001

....it is nice to hear all points of view.  I wish the best for your brother.  I hope we all find what we are looking for in matters of the heart that is all that counts.  You have a very good head on your shoulders and I'm sure an equally passionate heart.  If you haven't already, you will make some man happy and you'll be happy too.  NOW it is off to the gym.  Peace?....Peace.    Skol Vikings!

[bret]

... in response to American men..., posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

all women want a man with a good career and a future.  but to get a good job and have a future, he has to dedicate most of his time to the job, so he can have a good career and a future. understand?

i do agree with the lady that it cuts both ways. most men want young and beautiful, and most women want rich and powerfull, and somewhere in the middle, almost nobody finds what they are looking for.

but, point is, a guy can't have a good career and all his time free to keep a lady pampered and happy.

anyway, no smart, attractive woman is going to go for a guy that lays around the house all day!

we gotta bring home the bacon, so YOU can relax, not us!

[Houndog]

... in response to American men..., posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

***7.too into their careers to have any time ***

^^^If you only knew how hard it is to find a cute, nice, ambitious guy. ^^^

doesn't the guy need a career or at least a job to satisfy this ambition ?? Doesn't that take time ?

Sounds like you want what most AW want...something that probably does;nt exist..or at the best is very rare....A guy with nothing but time on his hands to give you attention....yet ambitious, which means makes plenty of money...Hmmmmm....

HD

[Houndog]

... in response to Re: American men..., posted by Houndog on Jul 9, 2001

I forgot to mention...when you do find that guy you'll NEED to CHANGE HIM...to conform EXACTLY to YOU'RE IDEA of What He SHOULD Be and Act like....try heavy doses of Negative Reinforcement...nagging when he's late, nagging when he's tired, nagging when he wants to play hooky from work(to spend time with you) because he won't be making MONEY to buy the newer car, the bigger house, more STUFF to make you feel equal to your GF's and their husbands.  After a couple of years you'll have him beat down into a shadow of his former self that you will have complete controll over. Just the way you want him...compliant....Hey Wait a MINUTE...NOW HE'S BORING....but the guy down the road isn't.....

See Ya !!!

HD

[Patrick]

... in response to The Desperation Factor.. C'mon guys, get..., posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

I married a woman who was 2 1/2 years younger than me, 50 lbs less (and 10 inches shorter) and we're very happy after 4 years of marriage.  I think the guys who try to push the limits do stand a much better chance of finding someone who's more interested in what they can do for them than how they feel about them.

One thing that very few on this board talk about though is the other side.  How many men are marrying women simply because they're young and beautiful?  Sounds like there's two people potentially using each other to me and from what little I've seen of divorces that occur, the women suffer at least as much as the men do.

[newby Jim]

... in response to Tell him to get real, posted by Patrick on Jul 9, 2001

We grew up in an area where there were a lot of Hispanics, and the guys treated the girls like sh!t.. controlling, cheating little @ssh0les. Are columbian guys like that ? If so, I can see where the gals would like to marry a white guy (or black guy).. they treat women better. A lot of the cute girls where we grew up wound up marrying white guys for that very reason.

[JUAN]

... in response to The Latin factor, posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

You know plenty of cute chicks who go nuts for guys that treat them like ****......it goes both ways, in every ethnic group/race their are a-holes, don't put us all in the same bunch.

For every latina dating an AM there is an AW dating a latino.

I've been told by several AW that they will NEVER date an AM again.

[rick13]

... in response to Like you said in your  post above, posted by JUAN on Jul 10, 2001

I know a few latinos who treat their women like gold,and the women are the ones I would watch out for. Just because a girl is from a certain country does not mean she will appreciate a nice guy.                                    
   Yeah, the interracial and latino thing is big in certain areas,with many AW preferring not to date white AM. That is a choice I respect. If a woman prefers black,Asian, latino, so what. But lots of guys have a problem with it. Much more so than with men dating a different culture. I think on the whole,men tend to be very possesive. A man may not even
be interesed in  woman of his culture, but is highly offended if she dates outside of it.

[Pete E]

... in response to Like you said in your  post above, posted by JUAN on Jul 10, 2001

If they like being treated like sh-t a Colombiano can be their guy.We could have a little exchange student program here and send some AW south as we bring the Colombianas north.Maybe they wouldn't find nice guys so boring after a little bit of this kind of treatment.I think a big difference is because of their poor economy the guys playing around is not just a personal rejection but endangers the family welfare.

Pete

[JUAN]

... in response to Re: Like you said in your  post above, posted by Pete E on Jul 10, 2001

Why does a latino have to treat his woman in that way iyo? We're not all like that,  I was taught at an early age that men who hit women are cowards, none of the men in my family beat their wives or girlfriends.

As for AW going down south to get a latino, they don't have to do it that way, the latino population is huge in this country and it's getting bigger, in 20  or so years latinos will be the majority in the US.

The latinos that want an AW will come to them.

The reverse can be said for  AM that want latinas.

[Red Clay]

... in response to The Latin factor, posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

Sis,
 I corresponded with around 30-40 Latinas before I met and became engaged to the lady who is now my wife. They lived in Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Argentina, Mexico, Bolivia, Brazil. Almost all of them volunteered to me the reason they were looking to meet a gringo was that Latin men don't treat women well. I didn't even have to ask.

[yc]

... in response to The Latin factor, posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

Well, I can't vouch for or deny that notion about Hispanics eventhough I live in an area with a large population of Hispanics.  I have yet to witness that kind of behavior eventhough I've heard negative rumors.  What I have witnessed is that the men(Mexicans) as well as the women are very hard working.  

As far as foreign women seeking AM for marriage, one of the claims is that the local men are bad.  They beat their wives, drink all the time, stay out all night, disrespect  and sleep around on them.  Many of these women believe AM are a better crop(we know this is not all entirely true) and for all intended purposes rich by their standards.  See, we are not deluded about the money and material factor.  At the same time, I do not believe these women are deluded either about their expectation regarding AM.  The choice comes down to this, would you rather live in the tropics or hell?  Both places are hot, but the tropics can be a paradise where hell can never be.

Regards

[DallasSteve]

... in response to The Desperation Factor.. C'mon guys, get..., posted by newby Jim on Jul 9, 2001

If we wanted "someone who wants YOU and not your lifestyle" that would exclude the majority of American Women, too, now wouldn't it.  Gotta go home now to my beautiful Colombian wife who's 21+ years younger than I.

I love to see steam come out of an AW's ears.

Steve