David, you'd better forget revenge

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I'm not against you, just a ..., posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

Dave,
my wife was living in Moscow when I met her but she moved there from Saratov. Off hand I don't know how long I've been married, sometimes it feels like weeks and at other times decades! Anyway I've only been to Moscow but I've met FSUW from many places and in general they're about the same. Moscow has many RW that come from the smaller cities and I saw more women then men, but I wasn't paying any attention to men so maybe I had blinders on?? but I did notice nearly all the girls speak English.

What ever city you chose should work out fine for your situation, but the bigger the city the better for just getting started. As for scoring women there or any city in the FSU there are a great many women just looking for security and you being an American makes you exotic to them plus they know you have some security to offer so yes it's much easier.

I would start off picking a city and looking for someone in need of a room-mate. Either use the internet or go there and check around. Women are easy to approach for directions, help, or ideas so it shouldn't take long to make some conections. If you make friends you'll most likely meet many women that way too.

An artical I read many months ago from the Moscow times said that American men are coming there to work and going from being American geeks to Moscow studs and were definitly loving it. (that was just my fast interpritation of what I read) Myself I met my wife at McDonalds, but I was meeting new girls every day. (she wasn't to interested in me like the others and that's what hooked me)

Dave get your divorce fast and quickly go there and enjoy life, even if it's just a month or two, no matter what I promise you'll forget about Natasha quickly after getting there, or any FSU big city you chose.

Mike

[John LV]

... in response to your answers Dave, posted by Mike on Dec 15, 2002

Thanks Mike! You make me feel better already, I think I will have to take your advice.

If you ever come to Vegas, let me know, I would love to talk with you, you seem like a really nice guy.

I'll have to check Moscow out, I was suppossed to go with my wife this New Years, I guess that won't be happening now, I still can't believe this has all happen, I sure didn't see it coming that's for sure.

I'll make it to Moscow I hope within 3-6 months, I have got to go check it out.

Thank you Mike, and congrats with your happy marriage.

David

[Mike]

... in response to Re: your answers Dave, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

Dave, you'll be fine trust me. HA HA I actually went to Moscow myself for 3 weeks just to forget about a girl I was dating for a long time and had no plans at all of getting married (just wanting a girl fest)I stopped seeing her and within one week had tickets a month in advance. The idea of going, planning and all that kept my mind off of her and turned out to be a blessing. (don't know why I forgot to mention that before)

Good luck
Mike -- who loves Black Jack

[Jeff]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I'm not against you, just a ..., posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

David,
You need to get your head out of your butt.  Girl to men ratio?  Give me a break.  Are you that hard up that you need to worry about such things?  Maybe you should realize that you are not cut out for this, that no matter who you find you won't be able to keep them.  You seem all grown up now (maybe all this has matured you a little bit) but we all remember how you really are, and I am sure it carries over to your marriage.  The way I see it, anyone who is having a discussion about whether they have an advantage because they are American isn't mature enough to be married anyway.  Go back to Russia, find some nice hookers, pay them to give you an incurable disease, then come back and brag to all your buddies about it.  Isn't that what you really want anyway?

[John LV]

... in response to Davids maturity level, posted by Jeff on Dec 15, 2002

Well, I don't understand your post?

You say that girl to guy ratio means nothing?

So if you go a bar, and there are 100 guys versus 10 girls, you can do well?

If so, my hat is off to you, your a better man than me, but personally I don't like having to compete with an overwhelming number of guys to get a girl, this gives girls too much of an advantage. Now sure I could easily kick all of those 100 guys butts with no problem, and I have 10 times there intellect, but girls don't care about that.

So in my opinion your deluding yourself if you think girl to guy ratio means nothing, come to Vegas and try to get a girl, so to San Diego and try to get a girl, I wouldn't waste my time, since both places are 5 guys to every 1 girl, giving girls far too much of an advantage. However if you went to Orlando Florida where it was once 3 girls to every one guy, and still about 60% girls and 40% guys, it's not too hard to find some decent girls there.

Thats my perspective anyway, sorry if you disagree with it.

David

[Lynn]

... in response to Re: Davids maturity level, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

Ratio may mean something to a certain extent(numbers/odds theory). But from the demeanor and maturity level evident in most of the posts that I have read from you, most FSU women could size you up in a moment. That said, you would likely attract: (a) a scammer, (b) someone not too intelligent or with low self-esteem (possible but not likely over there), (c) a woman with desparate "needs" that "any" foreigner could fill---i.e. a way out.
If you were to attract someone "desireable", with your appearance or "propertied" intellect, I can assure you that it would not take long for her to size-up the situation and take appropriate action (whatever that may be for her). Take a long hard look at yourself, if you do not feel worthy to compete (survival of the fittest), then heal (fix) thyself, grow-up whatever. Otherwise you will be eaten alive in the FSU. 10,000 to 1 would be fair odds.

3 or 2cts. from Dixie

Lynn

[John LV]

... in response to Lies, damn lies, & statistics......, posted by Lynn on Dec 15, 2002

I don't know if you realize it or not, but based upon your post I can word it a different way.

Woman in the FSU are viscious cunning woman, who will not hesitate to exploit any weakness they can find, they are not nice caring warm woman with good hearts.

Thanks Lynn, gives me alot of insight on not only FSU woman, but yourself as well.

Try finding God, that will help you.

David

[Lynn]

... in response to Re: Lies, damn lies, & statistics......, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

"I don't know if you realize it or not, but based upon your post I can word it a different way."---------Well Duh Huh, gosh Gomer I guess I did just fall off the tater truck and hurt my head, I would have never thought of thaa-at.
 "Woman in the FSU are viscious cunning woman, who will not hesitate to exploit any weakness they can find, they are not nice caring warm woman with good hearts."-------Some are----some are not, but as a general rule most will not have much mercy on a man with no backbone. I've seen guys, drop thousands of dollars on women they barely know, thinking that they could buy their intended "victim". Still others with the "puppy syndrome" who just want the nice lady from the FSU to look over all their shortcomings and be their wife/slave here in the "land of milk and honey". You can put on any face you want, the real person always comes to the surface. Let me use this parable for what I was trying to get across to you: If I were to go fishing for shark I would love to take you along, "Chum". Anyway, best of luck to ya.

"Try finding God, that will help you."-----from some of the feces you have smeared on the keyboard, I think you should really try your own advice.

[John LV]

... in response to Re: Re: Lies, damn lies, & statistic..., posted by Lynn on Dec 16, 2002

Fair enough Lynn, fair enough. And good luck to you as well.

But just for the record, I'm not looking for a shark, I'm a really nice friendly guy just looking for a decent girl that's all, when I was young, I had no idea it would be so hard to do.

Anyway, if you ever go chumming, count me out ok?

David

[Jeff]

... in response to Re: Lies, damn lies, & statistics......, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

nt

[Jeff]

... in response to Re: Davids maturity level, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

I am not questioning the difficulty of finding someone worth your time in San Diego, all I am saying is that it seems kind of undeveloped (as my wife would say) to consider such things as girl ratio.  But then again, I don't go to bars to meet people, I go there to have fun.  Perhaps thats the attitude you need, to be able to go somewhere with the intention of having fun, if you meet someone then so much the better.  I think you are setting yourself up for failure if you think you can increase your odds by going to places with good girl ratio.  But I guess if they are really desperate to get married, especially to an American, then maybe you'll find someone and be in the same situation again in a few years that you are in now.

[John LV]

... in response to Re: Re: Davids maturity level, posted by Jeff on Dec 15, 2002

I simply used bars as an example, it would be incomprehensible to me to be able to go to a bar, or a nightclub and have fun. What would there be to do there? Drink alcohol, dance? I do neither, nor would I ever want to. How many scientists you ever met while attending a bar? Believe me, we don't go to bars ever, we would much rather stay home and read a good book, or something similar.

If you want to find a decent girl, the first thing you must do is put yourself into a position to find single girls, would Alaska be a good place to go? Alaska has 25 guys to every one girl, what do you think?

Can you not see the stupidity of what your saying? And if you have asked your wife about this, of course she would take offense at this, woman want to be treated as individuals, not as if they were some piece of meat at a meat market.

But the reality is, if your a single man, you want to increase your chances of finding a single girl, and that means numbers. Why do you think you spent all the money and all the time going to Russia to find a girl? Hello?

Try not to be such a hypocrite ok?

[Jeff]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Davids maturity level, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

David,
I didn't spend "all the money and all the time" to find a girl in Russia.  Like yourself, I wouldn't want what I could find in a bar, and I would have felt weird hitting on a girl in a supermarket.  In other words, the oportunities for meeting like minded women were slim.  Even if I would meet someone, it would take a long time to find anything out about her because they put on a facade for the first few months (or even years).  I started looking on the internet because I could at least get to know someone a little bit before meeting them.  I didn't find anybody interesting locally, as the amount of women posting ads was slim.  There were lots of women in other states, but they might want me to relocate.  Then by accident, I came upon the Russian thing.  I never deliberately thought "I am so desperate for a peice that I am going to spend thousands just to bring some poor girl here and marry her".  I had no idea how much it cost to do this when I met my wife.  The thought that I would have to cross the ocean and wait several months to get her here never crossed my mind.  I simply wanted to get to know someone, and in the process fell in love with someone very far away from me.  I know people think that I was desperate for a wife and my wife was desperate for money, but nothing could be further from the truth.

[robobond]

... in response to Re: I'm not against you, just a bad idea, posted by John LV on Dec 15, 2002

n/t

[John LV]

... in response to BOHICA!, posted by robobond on Dec 15, 2002

Is that all you can ever say?

I can see this forum has become a waste of time for me, time to do some more important things now, bye bye.