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MarkInTx
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« on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
Hey, btw, I meant to post this before...

Something you can tell your "Judge" relative :-)

According to the Warsaw Embassy page:

"Petitioners should not use the contractually binding Affidavit of Support form I-864. This form is not required for K visas. Documentation regarding financial support can be in any form so long as it contains enough detail and information for the consular officer to conclude that the beneficiary will not become a public charge. Petitioners may submit the "old" Affidavit of Support form I-134 if they wish. "

I know... when I started this, I read about the "Legally on the hook" thing, too. Just another example of mis-information being passed along as fact... although in this case it WAS true at one time... but out of date now... Doesn't stop guys from still insisting its true though...

Now, although the consular wants information to reasonably conclude that the woman will not become a burden on the American Welfare system, it is no longer legally binding.

It never was really enforecable, which is probably why they dropped it.

Also, considering the state's being forced to offer all kinds of welfare programs to illegal aliens in places like Texas and California, it was really ludicrous to ask guys to sign it, anyway.

I read once that the MOB makes up less than 1% of all immigrants coming to the US...
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Globetrotter
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to To GlobeTrotter, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 21, 2002

OK, I'll tell the judge that you still disagree with him.  Who knows, maybe someday you will meet.

A lawyer met a RW and got engaged in a week, filed the K1, brought her and her daughter here and married her.  She divorced him 2 months later.  She didn't go home as she wanted the "boat."  Because she didn't work, and did not blend into our society and job market, he was ordered to pay alimony.  Her church provided different families that would take care of them for little or no money.

He still carries a health insurance policy on them for $3500 as he knows he is liable.  Should someone else marry her, he would have to sign the support order and take over the remainder of the 10 year support agreement.  

This is what the lawyer told me when he learned I was in the game.  It was he who told me some of the bad things that can happen.  I assume that as he knows the law, he is trying to cover his liabilities, but I'm sure you know better!

And I'll be sure to pass on your wisdom to my uncle, the judge.
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: To GlobeTrotter, posted by Globetrotter on Oct 21, 2002

I don't know what state your lawyer friend is in.

But.. you say your friend brought her over here and married her? And he wanted to escape alimony?

Well... OK.. I stand corrected.

If what you are saying is that you want a woman whom you can simply "kick to the curb" when you're done with her... then you are absolutely correct.. the INS process won't protect you.

You, your lawyer friend, and your Judge relative, are absolutely correct.

I didn't know that's what you meant.

My bad...
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Globetrotter
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: To GlobeTrotter, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 21, 2002

Mark,

I'm giving up on you.  The post is quite clear, and I don't know what you are adding to it.  Kick to the curb?  The guy was scammed, and he feels very stupid, but needs to protect himself from further financial damage should either of the girls need medical attention.  

And yes, if a girl stays, and there are many ways attorneys can keep her here for 2 years, one is liable.  All the more reason to tread lightly, know who you are bringing here, and do it with a reasonable thought process.
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Dan
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: To GlobeTrotter, posted by Globetrotter on Oct 21, 2002

One horny dude InTX that I can think of.

- Dan
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Zink
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to "Reasonable Thought Process" -..., posted by Dan on Oct 21, 2002

Can't you just let it go? You used to be a good guy for information about Ukraine. Now all you do is attack all the time. I don't care if you think it's justified or not. Patrick did his best trying to make this a reasonable board without trolls. And now we've got a bunch of otherwise reasonable people acting like idiots just because they don't like each other. It isn't just you either. But maybe you can show us that your bigger than the other boys and can act like it. I don't have much hope for some of the guys but I used to respect you.
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Dan
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Danny Boy..., posted by Zink on Oct 21, 2002

I remain interested in helping anyone that cares to ask about Ukraine - if I am able.

I also - since the early days of this board - remain steadfast in not wishing for misinformation to be promulgated from the board.

Some of the idiots that post here have been tolerated for quite some time - and have become emboldened by the lack of response to their horsesh!t. About a month ot two back, I decided to change that.

My interest remains in guys having a good time and productive trips to Ukraine. I'd love it for more people to become educated in the history and culture and language of the country from which they seek their life partner. And I am happy to help in that wherever possible.

I just reached my tolerance limit with the 'static' from some of the other board participants and decided I had to speak out.

Maybe it will pass soon - and maybe it won't. I cannot promise I will return to less-contentious posting - but I will try.

Cheers Zink,

- Dan
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LP
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Danny Boy..., posted by Zink on Oct 21, 2002

....I hate it when Zink's right, which is nearly all of the time. Hey Zink, how the heck do you do that?

Time to holster, Danny. Let's be good as long as our pal is. Although he deserves it, he ain't gonna change. But if he says a bad word, I don't blame ya for jumpin on him again.

Besides, you've reach your goal and joined the club. lol...you won! Free at last, free at last....;-)
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Zink
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Aw jeez....., posted by LP on Oct 21, 2002

I spent a lot of time being stupid when I was younger. And I've got the scars to prove it. But I learned from most of my mistakes. Took awhile though. It still surprises me that some people never grow out of it.
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: To GlobeTrotter, posted by Globetrotter on Oct 21, 2002

Why don't we just stay with the area we can agree on:

"All the more reason to tread lightly, know who you are bringing here, and do it with a reasonable thought process."

Yes.. yes... and I couldn't agree more...
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LP
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to To GlobeTrotter, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 21, 2002

....lol..."I stopped reading his drivel weeks ago". Yeah, sure. That alone makes you look like a fool. You must think we're morons to believe *anything* you say.

While the I 864 is not required for processing K1s, it is required down the road and you will be required to submit it at that time. And as long as the statue is coded, it can  be enforced. It seems you have as little experience with the judicial system as with FSU chicks.

Once again, you offer advice on things you know nothing about. Typical that you would focus only on getting her here and learn nothing about what happens after. Not exactly good research and planning is it?
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Stan B
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Wrong again, posted by LP on Oct 21, 2002

When we did our AOS I asked if they wanted the affidavit of support that I had gotten notarized and they said no they don't do that anymore.
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LP
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Wrong again, posted by Stan B on Oct 21, 2002

...I don't discount your experienece and if I'm wrong I'll fess up to it.

But he was confusing the two affidavits of support at the K1 level. And fwiw, even though the INS is inconsitent in it's policies, the statue is still on the books. As long as it's law it can be enforced. I've seen many other cases where this same kind of thing has bit people before.
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Stan B
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Thanks Stan..., posted by LP on Oct 21, 2002

from what I've read here, ever INS district seems to have its own little variations in policies. Fortuneately Honolulu seems to be easy going, friendly and efficiant.
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LP
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to you know, posted by Stan B on Oct 21, 2002

...even the Feds are happy in Paradise!
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