Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?...

[Frank O]

I'm having REAL trouble finding an airline that flies out of Boryspol to Luhansk anyone know of one? I was told there was one from Kiev to Donetsk which is 100 miles from Luhansk! I'm flying from McAllen Texas to Houston, to Amsteram, to Kiev, I don't want to THEN fly to Donetsk THEN take a cab! I was told there was one from Zulhany to Luhansk but I'dlike to stay in the same airport in Kiev. ANy suggestions?

[Mark H]

... in response to Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?..., posted by Frank O on Oct 3, 2002

Dude,
Please tell me you are not planning on having an FSU woman live in McCallen? Get real.

Mark H.

[BURKE89]

... in response to Re: Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?..., posted by Mark H on Oct 3, 2002

wonderland. How could you you be so foolish?
Vaughn

[Frank O]

... in response to McAllen, is but another Aspen..., posted by BURKE89 on Oct 4, 2002

I don't get the anology to Aspen. Seriously!

[BURKE89]

... in response to In what way?, posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002

Simple un-diluted sarcasm. I went through your fair city, en-route to a fab in Matamoras, and couldn't really distinquish where the border was.
Vaughn

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?..., posted by Mark H on Oct 3, 2002

It's no worse than Amarillo?   ;-)

Hey... we can't ALL be Stan, and bring the lady to Paradise...

[Mark H]

... in response to Re: Re: Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?..., posted by MarkInTx on Oct 3, 2002

Mark,
I wouldn't have an FSU girl live in Amarillo either! Have you ever been to McCallen? Probably not based on your response. Amarillo is like Hawaii compared to McCallen. He'd be better suited to be on the Latin board.

Mark H.

[Jack]

... in response to Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?..., posted by Frank O on Oct 3, 2002

Frank I assure you there are flights into Lugansk from Kiev.
But you will not be able to use the same airport. You will arrive into the International airport located in Borispol and you will fly out of the local city airport to Lugansk.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Plane from Kiev to Luhansk?..., posted by Jack on Oct 3, 2002

Thanks for the input Jack. I really just wanted the convenience of flying out of Boryspol instead of arriving there going to Zulhany THEN flying to Luhansk. Oh well. Any idea how I can book a flight now?

[Jack]

... in response to Dang! That's what I DID"T want to d..., posted by Frank O on Oct 3, 2002

We buy many tickets in advance for guys. All you have to do is to send a scanned copy of your passport and the ticket can be bought in advance for you. Most flights are going to land at Borispol from 12:30 to 3:00 pm. Allow 20 to 40 minutes to clear customs, allow 40 minutes to reach the center of Kiev and another 15 to get to Zulhany. Most the evening flights will leave between 6:45 and 8:30pm. On average you will have about 3.5 extra hours to kill while in Kiev.  You could arrange to look thru the catalogs of a marriage agency in the center at an outside cafe during this 3.5 hours (always good as it provides for a back-up plan as you can come to Kiev earlier if things don't work out), or you could be driven around the city and shown some historical sites.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Dang! That's what I DID"T want ..., posted by Jack on Oct 3, 2002

Who is "we" Jack? I'm new to this forum (like last 1-2 weeks) so I'm not familiar. I arrive at Boryspol at 2 pm so I guess I would have several hrs to kill.

[Jack]

... in response to Re: Re: Dang! That's what I DID"T w..., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002

I'm sorry Frank, "we" are my employees. In Kiev, as well as all other cities where I have people working for me (21 as of last count), we routinely buy plane and train tickets for guys in advance.

Some clients, myself included, have landed in Kiev, made a mad dash to the city airport to get a ticket to Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Lugansk, etc, only to find the plane is sold out, these are not big planes. So with a clients scanned copy of his passport we can buy these plane, train, bus tickets in advance so he is sure to have a ticket.

With you arriving at 2pm you will be in the center of Kiev by about 3:15. Your plane would leave about 7:10 so in your case you would have about 3.5 to do some other things. For this reason maybe you look now, before your trip, and see if there is a lady from Kiev you might have interest to meet. Meet her at 3:45 at an outside cafe in the center and have a 2 hour meeting with her.  Or as I mentioned earlier, take a look thru several catalogs of ladies with this one agency we have to meet our clients in the center during these 3 to 4 hour layovers. This agency has about 1100 ladies in there catalogs. See if you have interest in some 8 to 10 ladies, let Tamara know and you head on to Lugansk. If things don't work out give me a call and we will check the status of the ladies who you selected and if two or three have interest to meet you, head back to Kiev and meet these ladies as opposed to staying in Lugansk if nothing positive is happening there.

I for one have some concern about you going to Lugansk to meet one woman. I have no problem with you going to Lugansk to meet some 3, 4 or 5 ladies, but not 1. And in Lugansk you MUST have an honest agency to look after you. I was hoping someone else would respond back to your question regarding Vega agency, I did not want to be the bearer of bad news. I hope you have this ladies home address and phone number. I hope you have got your own flat without the assistance of this Vega agency and not a flat this lady has chosen for you. If you do get this flat I would advise you to only pay for about three days in advance, no more. If you decide to stay longer, fine, pay then, but if you pay for 1 week, or 10 days in advance and you decide to bail out after 3 or 4 days, you won't get any of your money back, so pay a little in advance, not all of it upon your arrival, which they will ask for.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Dang! That's what I DID"..., posted by Jack on Oct 4, 2002

The agency WILL be the one getting my apt for me. It seems they want their hand in EVERYTHING. I have a friend to interpret & THEY didn't like the idea. NO WAY!!LOL!! So I'll see what happens. I think they wanted to charge me like $200 for my 2 week stay there. However like you said I'm not decieved into thinking everything will work out. I'm being VERY realistic & I could show up & we will not click IF she does show up. I know a guy who went there 2 weeks ago & the "girl" he had been corresponding with since January just simply did not show up. Then the agency hooked him up with other girls but the were not interested & appeared to only have gone out with him like as a favor to the agency. The WEIRD part was he even requeste to GOT OUT WITH MY MARINA!!! Luckily for me she said NO to him. I was glad about that! LOL!!But yest I'm very prepared for the worse.
Now where can I get info on your agency Jack? I'm sorry but I'm VERY new to this forum so I don't really know anyone here or who is what. I would be interested in what I said. I also would be interested in purchasing tickets through your agency for LUhansk. As of right now I want a one way due to my situation. In other words if it DOESN"t pan out I think I will now within 3 days. That's my time frame as of this point. Unless it's one of those where she doesn't show up or I know like in the 1st day that it's not going to happen. I'm very decisive so I DON'T beat around the bush with these things. This is for life man so no sense in wasting time around not too mention I only have 13 days over there.

[Jack]

... in response to well Jack...., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002

me's thinks you are heading for trouble.

The agency insist on getting your flat. They insist on you using there interpreter. Charge you a $100 a week for what??

You know your friend who went there two weeks ago and the lady just didn't show up? Go to my scammers link at my web site www.firstdream.com and look at the second scammers gallery. The row in the middle, Tatyana #20. What a surprise, she is also from Lugansk. I waited at the airport three hours for her, I knew she would be there any minute, she was just running late I kept telling myself,....for three hours!

The agency in Lugansk also wanted me to rent there flat, to use there interpreter, I re-fused, my scammer did not show up to meet me. But Frank, if you do everything the scam agency tells you that you must do, your scammer will probably be there to greet you!

Frank, I would ask of you to change your plans and have this woman to meet you in Kiev. I feel so strongly that you are probably being scammed, it goes against my principles to assist any guy getting scammed. If your going to get scammed I don't want it being with my assistance.

If you do go on to Lugansk on your own I would advise you to use good common sense. Probably best for you not to get engaged while there also. If you are part of a nasty scam going on there at this time this woman will get you to get engaged to her and a few days later you are having a private dinner at the agency owners home when they tell you about the $500 marriage fee. What! You didn't know about the $500 fee your lady agreed to pay if the agency found her a husband? Won't do you any good to get up and walk out,....you are locked in!

Frank, if you have her to come and see you in Kiev you could meet a few other ladies also. You need to do this anyway, to meet a few more ladies, as it helps you greatly when it comes down to choosing your future bride. The more you can know and compare different Russian women, the easier it is for you to make that choice. It's very easy to fall in love with the first or second Russian woman you meet. Just make sure it is love, if your not sure, keep looking.

[Rags]

... in response to Re: well Frank...., posted by Jack on Oct 5, 2002

Listen to the Wise One, Grasshopper. It could save your @..