Father Permission (Once Again)

[Tom40]

Guys, I know that this has been asked before, and I don't want to upset anyone. But my question is the same, but I am also searching for evidence or a direction to a site that states the fact's. I know that you guys have "Been there done that" So please help me with my request for something in writing.
My UW and I are starting the K-1 process, she will be going to Warsaw for interview. She has stated that she believes that her X-husband could be a problem because he states he is still in love with her, now he never pays attention to his son, and his birthday he drop off a toy and said happy b-day and bye in the same sentance, so he really don't care about the son. But lets assume the worse case so I can be prepared.
So with that said, what are the facts, and where is written down so I can print it out.
FYI: 1 Her son is listed on the K-1 (sent off today)
2He is listed on her International Passport
3Is listed on her Ukraine passport
4She has full custody.
So I gave you the facts, and I know that I have read there is nothing to worry about, but I need facts, this is really bothering my UW, because she knows that he could be a problem. But he also gives her nothing for support either of there son.
Please help me MEN and point me to correct site for documents..
Thanks
TOM

[wsbill]

... in response to Father Permission (Once Again), posted by Tom40 on Aug 29, 2002

Better yet, take out a couple of insurance policies on the guy and tell him to have a nice day.

[Tom40]

... in response to Re: What's the going rate for contracts ..., posted by wsbill on Aug 30, 2002

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[Oscar]

... in response to Father Permission (Once Again), posted by Tom40 on Aug 29, 2002

Hi Tom-

We had a big argument/discussion about this issue about 3 months ago..

From my understanding- In Ukraine, if she has full custody of the child, she does not need a letter from the husband anymore (they did used to need one) saying it is ok for the child to leave the country.  I have spoken to quite a few men now who have said that their girls were never once asked for a letter.  You can find this information at more than a few of the web sites like the Doc Steen site, I have posted a link for that below..  But she needs to have a divorce decree showing she has full custody and yes, the child should be in her passport.  There was some talk about the possibility that they might be going back to needing a letter.

This is from the Doc Steen Visa page-

"Another frequently asked question: Does the female fiance in Russia (FSU) or Ukraine have to have a statement from the father that the child is allowed to immigrate?"

"Answer: No, this is no longer necessary, as long as the fiance (mother) of the child has total custody of the child. (Please be aware, however, that in OTHER countries this may not be true. Canada, for instance, DOES require a statement from the father that the child can immigrate.)"

Here is the link-

http://k1.exit.com/k-2frames.html
 
Does this mean you should not get a letter from the ex husband if you can get it??  No.  It would always be wise to have if you can get it.  I believe that if an ex husband wants to be nasty (which some will do just to get paid off!), he can go and bribe a judge or the police to not allow the child to leave.

My philosophy has been this- (My opinion!)  If the ex husband will give a letter giving his permission for the child to leave the country, great!  If he will also give a notarized letter stating that he relinquishes his rights as a parent, even better (for adoption purposes).
If he is a rat and has never been a part of the child's life or was a terrible or abusive father and will not give permission, I wouldn't ask for it or push it in any way.  I would tell my girl just to never talk about leaving and then when her Visa is ready, just have her be gone one day and take the child out without his permission (which she is not supposed to need right now anyway).
I simply see it as you really don't want to get in a pissing contest with a skunk!  

Good Luck,
Oscar

[Tom40]

... in response to Re: Father Permission (Once Again), posted by Oscar on Aug 29, 2002

Thanks Oscar for the link, I do trust Mr DOC and his information, this will make life much easier, and I agree if he is angree X-husband don't tell him until you arrive in USA..I don't like this, but hay if it looks like and A?? it must be and smell like an A?s..

I am a single dad and I have custody of my son ( my X-wife told me I can't take my son out of the country, not even for a day, and I have joint custody with me being primary on the papers, but she is in jail so she has no leg to stand on. I still can figure out why AW want bad boys for men, look where it got her. TIME BABBBBBBYYYYY !!!

Thanks again

TOM_TX