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MarkInTx
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« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: "recognized" marri..., posted by Jack on Aug 30, 2002


I've said all I wish to say about the Milena debate, and I don't know enough to answer the DNEP No Show debate...

All that aside... It is amazing that someone who has never gone over would say "some of us are serious... you're not"

Of course, what can  say... I love life's little ironies...
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Jack
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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Which is not my point, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 30, 2002

I don't have any idea as to what you are referring to. My point was that I believe BarryM is correct in his assumption about someone not being serious.
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Which is not my point, posted by Jack on Aug 30, 2002

OK, I'll be more blunt...

Anyone who has spent two years on the board, and has never gone over, and has no plans to go over...  is not serious.

As such, I think he forfeits his right to judge someone else's seriousness or intent.

If he wants to post on his opinions on Russia, or the Orthodox religion, or what agency is a scammer -- fine.

But to question someone ELSE'S intent??? Come on... In what world does that make sense???

In "Old Sayings" that falls under the "Pot calling the Kettle Black" category...

In scriptural terms, that sounds a lot like "trying to remove a speck of dust from your brother's eye, while you have a plank in your own..."

And if he were saying it about anyone OTHER than Mark H, you would no doubt agree...
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Jack
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Which is not my point, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 30, 2002

My point is that I agree with BarryM with regards to his statements about an individual not being serious, plain and simple.
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BarryM
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Which is not my point, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 30, 2002

I had the full intent of traveling to the FSU last April-May. Events that occurred in July of 2001 created economic uncertainties for me that forced me to replan my entire year. September 11 and the Enron-Arthur Anderson fiasco further increased my economic stresses. One of my clients who gave me a lot of work was in the World Trade Center. If I was frivilous, I could have already made 2 trips over but that would have been hypocritical of me since I could not meet the financial reporting requirements for a K-1.

Anyone who is serious about finding an FSU wife has the responsibility of being able to finance and support a K-1 or I-130 immigrant visa before they make the trip. That's the difference between those who are justing looking to get laid while on vacation. For Mark H, it started to materialize that he was just doing this as a hobby... just something to do in his off time. He even stated that he wasn't that serious. That's fine for him. He certainly does have good travel experience and perhaps knows a lot of the good spots to visit in Ukraine and Russia. He may find some girl that he goes nuts for during his hobby trips and she may wind up being Mrs. Mark H. It happens that way sometimes. Mark H just needs to get his head straight and stop his spew.

Being serious sometimes means NOT looking for or corresponding with RW/UW when you're not ready. Since my plans changed, I haven't been corresponding with any RW/UW. Believe me, I've had more than a couple of dozen personal referals from RW/UW friends who live here now. All of these women recommended to me are very nice, beautiful, honest, sincere, and are looking for a good husband. I've had to politely decline engaging in romantic correspondence with them because I could not honestly have any serious romantic intentions with them at this time. You have to be ready to go all the way and I'm not right now.

That doesn't mean I'm not researching and preparing for the day when I can go. I haven't studied Pimsleur Russian lessons in quite a while now, I've moved beyond them. I now have a private Russian teacher and I'm studying Russian for college credit. I plan to take the departmental exams next Spring. If I keep having a lousy time financially for the rest of the year, next year I may be able to make the trip over paid in full by the U.S. taxpayers. Sometimes earning less means getting a few freebies...

-blm
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johnnydudeman
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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Greetings from Corpus Christi, posted by BFH on Aug 28, 2002

I know you were half-joking about the Mexico option...but have you seriously looked into the feasibility of a Russian getting a tourist visa to Mexico?  I was looking for a spot to take my Russian girl and I thought Mexico would be great, but she said it was too difficult and not worth the effort (so we went to Costa Rica instead).
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BFH
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Mexico tourist visa?, posted by johnnydudeman on Aug 28, 2002

I know of one case where an AM got a tourist visa for his RW to vacation with him in Cancun.  He lives in the San Francisco Bay area and as I disremember his story,,,he was able to get the visa for her by showing a paid for round trip ticket, proof of enough wealth to pay for everything, and basically signing his name on the dotted line assuming full responsibility for everything up to and including the Mexican National Debt.  I'm not so sure it's worth it when RW's can go to Costa Rica or Dominican Republic, (don't forget Cuba), without a visa.
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snowwego
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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Greetings from Splendora!, posted by Griffin on Aug 28, 2002

you said that well
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Oscar
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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to a couple of things, posted by Deckard on Aug 28, 2002

I can't speak to this other than what I have heard from some guys who have done this and one who lives here locally who did it.  I have understood that getting married there makes it longer to get her here..  More of a hassle..  What some do is get married in the church there but do NOT report it to the state.  So in essence you are married to her and this satisfies her family but the state does not recognize it, then you bring her here on a regular K-1 and marry her here..  
Again, I don't know the details, I just know this is what some guys do to avoid a supposed hassle..

Oscar
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Deckard
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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: a couple of things, posted by Oscar on Aug 28, 2002

Hi Oscar,

Interesting idea, and it is the first I've heard of it, but I like it.

I really do want to marry her in Ukraine, because that way her entire family will be present, and I can just have those closest on my side take a trip to Ukraine.
Luda will be much happier if both of her parents were able to be present at our wedding.

Peace,

-Deckard
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: a couple of things, posted by Oscar on Aug 28, 2002

Actually, if done right, you can get the lady here in about 30 - 60 days if you get married in Ukraine.

You are able to skip the whole INS process. You go straight to the Consolate in Warsaw.

My understanding is that in Russia it is a different story. But in Ukraine, the K-3 is faster than the K-1.

I actually wrote to a guy in Chicago who did it. He told me they were done in 60 days, and that was because their initial request was filed wrong and had to be resubmitted.

Otherwise, he would have been through it in 30 days, he said...
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Oscar
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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: a couple of things, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 28, 2002

Well, all I know is the guy I know personally was strongly counseled by many NOT to marry her in Ukraine!  He really checked into it and even the girl and her family said the same, that they could get married in the church but that it would be very bad to report it to the state as it would greatly delay things...

I have no idea who is right...
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snowwego
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: a couple of things, posted by Oscar on Aug 28, 2002

that is the way I heard it done
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to a couple of things, posted by Deckard on Aug 28, 2002

I actually looked into that, because in Ukraine you can get a K-3 Visa faster than a K-1.

I know some of the Agencies offer that as a "package". But to do it that way is expensive, so I didn't pursue it.

But if agencies can do it for you, there must be a way of doing it without their fees...

The only problem is that if you are going to do it, and want it recognized by the Othordox church, it does get far more complicated...
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snowwego
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« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to a couple of things, posted by Deckard on Aug 28, 2002

did you think about an unofficial wedding
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