100th girl has no more value then the 1st

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Very true Mark-, posted by Oscar on Aug 20, 2002

Just wondering...

You must have had the Myers-Briggs...

What is your personality type, if you will say?

[MNKenr]

... in response to Curious, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 20, 2002

I think that is what I was. The 'explorer' and one that believes in 'just do it!'

No matter what, one must go with your gut feeling. I went over, was confident about one specific woman, met others afterwards. I was not totally certain until I got back home and realized what my gut was telling me, and read the email waiting for me.

I think it is wrong to tell all men "it is better to meet many, for what if the 2nd is 'better' than first?" I also think it is wrong to tell all men "to not see many as it will offend the others".

Go with your gut. If your gut says go after the first woman, make a committment and dont look back. If it takes 134 women, then congrats, but do not demand others to follow.

No use thinking "what if". You should be thinking "what now", or "What will be".

The example of the man that wanted to marry the first meeting, but ended up marrying his 4th and now lives happily ever after. One can not say that the first would have been any better or worse. Just like saying, maybe the one guy's divorce would have been avoided if he just married the first one he wanted to and not continue to 'shop' around.

Meeting many does not guarentee a happy life. Getting married to the first one you like also does not guarentee a happy life. Your attitude, personality and outlook on life guarentees how your life will become.

Just my INSP 2 cents worth.

[Oscar]

... in response to INSP, posted by MNKenr on Aug 20, 2002

Maybe the guy was just kind of easy to fall or something..  Kind of like some people loving what ever is put on their plate, they are just really easy to please??  I mean you must admit, the chances of that happening that way are astronomical!  
But I still remember meeting many of these women and I have to admit, I honestly did fall for something about almost every girl I met or went out with there in some way.. maybe it was one's eyes, or anothers laugh, anothers figure, anothers humor... I can see where it might be fairly easy for some to just go with the first girl they meet, because there are some fantastic women there!

[Oscar]

... in response to Curious, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 20, 2002

It was about 12 years ago but I think I was an ENFP if I remember correctly.  We had to do it in a class.  Of couse the thing about the Myers-Briggs is that if you take it a month or two later, you can come out something else!  That's the problem with tests, they are just not terribly accurate..
 ;-)

[Kerpal]

... in response to The 134th girl had a LOT more value than..., posted by Jack on Aug 20, 2002

I dont think it matters what number the girl is. you know when you have met the right girl. simple as.

But Jack has a point, if you havent met a few RW and have a "benchmark" understaing of what makes their personalities different then it is very hard to know why you find them interesting. Out of four girls I met on one trip, each girl was completely different from the next. they all could of been the right one but only one stood out from the crowd.

[greg2]

... in response to Re: The 134th girl had a LOT more value ..., posted by Kerpal on Aug 20, 2002

welcome,

where are at in all of this?

[Kerpal]

... in response to Re: Re: The 134th girl had a LOT more va..., posted by greg2 on Aug 21, 2002

Been to Russia several times, Riga once and Ukraine once, written letters to about 100 girls via four agencies and met about average four to six girls a trip. matched in January and expecting her here in September or October.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: The 134th girl had a LOT mor..., posted by Kerpal on Aug 21, 2002

Congratulations to you. Did you find this forum before all of your trips?

[Stan B]

... in response to The 134th girl had a LOT more value than..., posted by Jack on Aug 20, 2002

My wife wasn't the 1st Ukranian woman that I met, she was the 2nd :-) And what impressed me was that while she is an attractive lady, her 'inner beauty' was (and still is) what dazzled me. And if I had to do it all over again, my choice would still be the same.
As for giving advice, I rarely do. When I do I ussually say have an open mind and be prepared for anything to happen. I surely didn't expect what happened to me and I could've gone over another 100 times and never gotten the results I did. You never know when its going to happen.

[greg2]

... in response to disclaimer, posted by Stan B on Aug 20, 2002

Stan,

You are one guy that has to keep posting. Remember how LP blasted you and others thought that man you must be in LaLa land and according to you everything is doing great. I mean your story shows that any way can work if it works.

Did you get the piano so your lovely wife can give lessons at home?

Take care,

Greg

[Stan B]

... in response to Re: disclaimer, posted by greg2 on Aug 21, 2002

Yes I remember LPs tirades and his statements of 'its people like you that give this endeavor a bad name' and my calling him a gutless azzhole and all that. And after all this, he is the one that doesn't have the balls to shed any light on his situation. So to me he'll always be a little weenie that hides behind his keyboard.
As for the piano, we got a 1917 Krakauer upright. It sounds great in our place and Maryna has been getting back up to speed by practicing everyday. As of now she only has 1 student, but she'll start looking for more when Katya starts back to school in 2 weeks. Thanx 4 asking...aloha

[MarkInTx]

... in response to the 'anti-LP', posted by Stan B on Aug 21, 2002

After all of the Sep 11 stuff, I heard Maui was hit pretty hard with a tourist dip.

Do you know if the "Warren & Annabel" magic show survived?

Just wondering... I was telling someone about Warren the other day, and they asked if he is still there...

-M

PS: I remember the LP attack, too. He was a disgusting then as he is now.

But it is as socrates said: "When someone is spreading lies about you... live so that no one will believe them."

You have done that with grace and style Stan.

Continued happines to you and yours...

[Stan B]

... in response to BTW... , posted by MarkInTx on Aug 21, 2002

I know that earlier this summer the show was still on and I assume that it is still going. I've seen him preform a few times at work, as well as a few other really good magicians, but I've never been to their theatre. As for the tourism dip, the 1st 1/2 of this year was as busy as I've ever seen it at my work, but the trickle down is finally catching up, as the 2nd 1/2 of this year and next year are scheduled to be much slower....aloha

[MarkInTx]

... in response to The 134th girl had a LOT more value than..., posted by Jack on Aug 20, 2002


When I was a kid I read a story once about a Sultan who was to reward a young soldier for his bravery.

The Sultan was reputed to have the seven most beautiful women in the kingdom in his harem. So, he told the soldier that he would bring out the seven women, one at a time, and the soldier could choose any one of them to be his wife.

The first woman is brought out, and drops her veil, and the soldier is so stunned by her beauty that he can barely speak.

The Sultan motions for the next woman to be brought out but the soldier stops him.

"No, your highness, I choose her."

"Are you sure, you haven't seen the others."

"I don't care. This woman is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, and just looking into her eyes makes me the happiest man in the world. I don't need anyone else."

Then the Sultan told him: "Congratulations. This is, indeed, the most beautiful woman in my whole kingdom. I brought her out first to test you for discrimination and greed. And I can tell you now, if you had asked to see the next woman, you would not have been allowed to choose the first."

And in addition, the Sultan made the man an advisor to his court.

Just a fairy tale... true.

But there is an element of truth to it.

The fact is.... if you find a woamn who you think is perfect for you, and you marry her and you are happy... who cares what five more years of searching would bring you?

I can tell you one thing that five more years of searching will bring you: Five more years of searching.

I guess if you enjoy the journey... that's OK.

But some people would rather enjoy the marriage instead...

[Jack]

... in response to Choosing a wife..., posted by MarkInTx on Aug 20, 2002

Wonderful story Mark. How about a REAL life, true story along this same discussion? I have told this story once before but now seems like a good time to tell again. There is a guy who reads this board, he contributes a little every now and then, but as he has been happily married for coming up on two years now, we do not hear from him too often.

A couple of years ago this guy wanted to meet a lady in Odessa and asked for my help and of course I suggested he plan to see more than this one lady (sorry ChrisB and Pordzhik) and he agreed. After a little work this guy, we will call him Vinnie Caramino, now had 4 great ladies of interest he wanted to meet.

So after getting Vinnie to his flat and a good nights rest, the next day, his first full day in Odessa, he see's the first of four ladies. He meets lady number one and cannot believe his fate. WOW, first trip to the FSU, first woman he see's, he is in love. He spends every second of his first day with her and informs my Odessa manager late that evening that there is no sense in seeing any of the other ladies because this is the woman for him. My manager didn't know what to do or say, she had not expected this or had this happen to her before so she called me, explained the situation to me and asked what she should tell the other ladies. I told her not to say anything at this time, let me call Vinnie and I would call her back. So I called Vinnie that evening (6am in Dallas!) and talked to him and could hear his excitement and joy. I told Vinnie I was very happy for him but as this was the first, and only, Russian woman he had ever met, shouldn't he at least wait and meet the lady he had originally come to see, who was the lady he was supposed to meet the next day. Begrudgingly he agreed.

The next day Vinnie meets Helen. Oh my, he has meet his true dream bride. This is the woman for him. The other woman was nice, but this woman was different and special. They spent all day together and later that evening he called my Odessa manager and said he was very happy with Helen and didn't think he should waste the other ladies time. Nastya (my Odessa manager) told Vinnie that Tatiana was already told that he would meet her on Derabascka street at 10:00am the next morning and he should really try to meet her, if for only a few hours. Vinnie agreed and meet Tatiana the next morning. According to Vinnie, Tatiana was beautiful, exciting, everything he had ever dreamed about and he felt he liked her better than the other two. They spent the day together and later that evening when Vinnie talked with Nastya about his meeting with Oksana the next day he said he would meet her out of courtesy to her and Jack, but that he felt he was going to marry Tatiana.

The next day, Vinnie's fourth day in Odessa, he meets Oksana, a beautiful, shapely, 25 year old blue-eyed blonde. Vinnie is speechless, more beautiful in person than in her photo, so sweet and sincere. Well of course Vinnie spends all day with Oksana, and the next, and next and next and next. Vinnie and Oksana got married. They have a beautiful little daughter (nothing slow about Vinnie) and are approaching there second year of marriage. Vinnie is as happy today as he was the first day he laid eyes on Oksana.

What's the moral to this story? Well I guess there could be several. But what would have happened if Vinnie would have never met the 2, 3rd or 4th lady. Maybe he would have been just as happy as he is today,...maybe!
With every lady Vinnie met, he felt he was in love. I am just glad that he only met four ladies!

What makes this story so wonderful is that it is a true story. It really happened just like this. He met the first Russian lady, fell in love with her and that was it, he didn't need to see any other ladies, but he did. He fell for the second lady, could have married her, could have blew off ladies number 3 and 4, but he didn't. And if you talk to him today he will tell you he is so happy that he went thru and met each of the four ladies he had committed to meeting. Another of the thousands and thousands of happily married AM/RW.