I change my mind, Latin it is!

[Jack]

Hey did any of you other guys receive an e-mail about Latin ladies?

I received such yesterday and the subject title was 'Planet Love'. I have included a copy of the received e-mail below.

With the much recent talk about how wonderful these Latin women are and how bad and expensive the Russian women are, I am re-considering everything (won't make my wife happy).

Hey Bogata vet, your friend does not have to worry, I help men every week who make less than your buddy! Every week men go to the FSU who make less than $50K a year. Your rich buddy at 60K will have noooo problems, unless he is not real or sincere!

Hey Bob101, if you going looking for Russian women where all the scammers hang out, you will probably find a high percentage of scammers, much more than any 40%. Use common sense, don't go looking for good Russian women at the sites where all the bad Russian women go to, or like you experienced, you will find many scam women. I would be willing to bet you Bobby ole boy that if you found a good sincere Russian woman you would say 'vamoosh' to your latin ladies (you see where all those tacos and tamales go too with many of these ladies when they hit 30? I said many, not all!).

Here is the e-mail I received.....

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gran Modelos"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 12:46 AM
Subject: Planet Love

FORGET RUSSIA!

Dear Single Gentleman,

That's right! We're back! You asked for it, and we delivered....

MARRY YOUR OWN COLOMBIAN PORN STAR!

http://www.granmodelos.com/

We have opened the ONLY agency in Colombia where you can meet, date and
marry Porn Stars! We still have limited space on our first tour this 4th of
July! Only $1999 per lucky gentleman!

Bud Hachberg and Norm Paulsen
Co-Creators and Co-Owners
http://www.granmodelos.com/
Gran Modelos, Inc.
"Marry Your Very Own Porn Star!"

What's this tingling sensation I am feeling? Ohhhhh, it's my troll nose, it's itching me guys. I thinks we have a couple of trolls visiting. Hummmphhh, let me see, who could they be?  

[Patrick]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002

I think this is another guy trying to impersonate someone to make them look bad.  Always look for a name@domainname.com sender address to confirm that it's coming from the same place.  In this case, unless it comes from someone@granmodelos.com I think it's safe to assume that it's just more BS.

[wizard]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002

I emailed the real folks in charge of gran modelos and explained to them that I have received "their" email regarding marrying a porn star... They advised me that it is a hoax by someone who has access to the LWL mailing list... They also stated their intent was that of a modelling agency... Not an introduction agency...

[MarkInTx]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002


Maybe I am just a prude... but who WANTS to marry a porn star?

Sheesh... isn't the threat of disease and having to worry about "not only your partner... but your partner's partners going back five years!" enough to make most men NOT want a porn star?

I don't get it...

[tfcrew]

... in response to I'm trying to figure this out..., posted by MarkInTx on Jun 19, 2002

...it seems like a site registration infringment to me.
Let's sic 'em

[MarkInTx]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002


Yeah... I know what you mean.

Actually, Bogota Vet has posted for a long time on the Latin Board.

But Bob101 is an interesting sort... comes on here, blasts Russian women... Says he's going to stay with Latinas (even though he has divorced one already) and all that is well and good... but... and he STAYS AROUND... and keeps saying the same stuff over and over again...

Hmmm... he wouldn't happen to have an agenda, would he?

It's not a troll in the classic sense... Like a virus, the Troll is mutating...

[Ryan]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002

I agree with the issues of Russian woman over 30 and I also agree with the Latino’s with the wide glide.  Look you can see it anyplace in any society it is not what is on the outside as much as what is on the inside.  I like FSU woman because they seem much more educated and not so childlike end of subject…

As far the six-figure salary issue goes that also sound like a lot of bull.  I will never make that kind of money, but no need I am taken care of and live in the U.S.A. so how would someone like me fit into that tour…  As for scammers it is simple don’t give them anything and as for the woman that want a free ticket to US and then bolt?  I’ll take my chances with that if they run then I go and get another…  Life is short have some fun..

Look… If anyone finds a nice FSU woman that wants to live a comfortable low stress lifestyle with little need for so much in family competition…  I wish they would get a hold of me…

Wow I can't believe how 2 years of posting on this board has changed me....
Ryan

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002

I don’t have to go south of the border to see the effects of tacos and tamales on many women over 30 (I said many, not all).  I live in an area of Texas where the effects can be seen first hand everyday.  But, then again, I've been to Russia and Ukraine and have seen the effects of borscht and vodka on many women over 30 as well (I said many, not all).  Anyone can do a search of on just about any Russian and Ukrainian website and see many beautiful and slender 18-28 year olds, but it’s a different story in the "above 30" category.  Some sites even offer free contacts for women over 30.  So, what does that say?

I went to Russia and Ukraine to find a beautiful younger woman for a relationship which might lead to marriage.  I found many beautiful women there (both on my own and through agencies) who were smart and sincere and ready for marriage and I also found many women who were just scammers looking for free travel and shopping and money.

I agree that probably 40% or more are scammers in that area.  That's been my experience.  I also know of many stories where men brought women over from FSU only to be dropped once the women got here.  Just within the last two weeks I heard from a guy I know whose fiancée (from Yoshkar-Ola) left his a** after just 2 months to go to New York and hook up with the large Russian community there.  She is now in violation of her visa and living in California.  I also heard from a friend in Russia who asked me to help contact her Russian friend in Los Angeles.  I called the girl in LA and she told me she came over on a fiancée visa and left her fiancée after just three days and is now in violation of her visa and is working retail at minimum wage.  I also know of a Ukrainian woman whose husband has decided he wants out of the marriage after three years and has kept her virtually isolated in her home.  He tells her she can go back to Ukraine anytime...but not with their child.  So she is staying.  I also recently met a beautiful beautiful woman in Las Vegas sitting at "The Center Bar" at the Hard Rock Casino (the eye candy there alone is worth a visit), and guess what???  She was a Russian hooker!  She came to the USA on a fiancée visa.  I also have heard of successful FSU stories, such as yours and some others who post on this board.  But, I also know of these not so successful stories first hand and I rarely see posts about them on this board.  

So, "ol' Bob" may have a good point about the wisdom of time and money spent in the pursuit of FSU women.  It may not be for him.  It takes balls and money to do this and its definitely not for everyone.  I know I have spent quite a bit of time and money but (so far) I am not disappointed.  I will read Bob's posts and take the good and throw away the bad.  I have found that thinking about and questioning and defending our beliefs makes us either stronger in our beliefs or (when we cannot justify and defend them) sometimes makes us choose to abandon them.  So Bob's posts have made some people defend their beilefs.  That's not so bad and he should be welcome on this board.  With that said, I will continue my pursuit in the FSU with skepticism and confidence.  Skeptical of a woman's true intentions (until I know otherwise), and confident in my ability to weed through the bad ones and find the one who is right for me.  But I don't think that questioning this process--even by those of us who are sincere in the pursuit--necessarily makes one a "troll."

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Tacos and Tamales, posted by johnnydudeman on Jun 19, 2002

Well... Hmmm... what is the definition of a troll then?

Look, I am not an LP supporter... that has been established. But I don't label him a Troll for one very important distinction: He has gone over.

He's done it, and (apparently) has found someone. So, if he wants to spout off about the dangers... OK... I might not like it, but he's not a troll, because of his involvment.

To have someone sit on the sidelines and cast cat-calls is a different thing.

If Bob wanted to come on here and say: "Geez, you guys are crazy, I'm heading SOB" then fine. But he said that, and then kept posting more of the same thing.

Listen, Bob, if you are reading (and we know you are) WE GOT IT THE FIRST TIME!

We understand... you wrote one woman, and you got scammed. You think it's not worth the risk... yada, yada, yada...

You are just repeating yourself now, so do everyone a favor and bugger off.

Johnny -- You think he's providing a service?

Shucks... then lets all let the Trolls back in then... They provided that SAME service... and some of them were a lot more entertaining.

[yoe]

... in response to Tacos and Tamales, posted by johnnydudeman on Jun 19, 2002

I will take my 36 year old Russian wife over most of these 20+ year old girls that are shown in other websites, ie. the one that Jack and I were emailed. She may not be 115lbs but she is a size D+ and that has to add to the scale..............hey you can not have everything.
Joe

[Bob101]

... in response to Tacos and Tamales, posted by johnnydudeman on Jun 19, 2002

My original post was not intended to raise defenses, I, personally, would not go through such uncertainty and known deception...it is just not a good investment as far as I'm concerned. There are many her who just wait for any opportunity to spew out their ignorance. I choose to post here for information for others...another point of view. I am a savy, experienced traveler. To me, the Latinas seem to be allot more sincere. I think is due to a democratic society, as well as Christian life. I wish the best of luck to all in their endevours. It is certainly a challenge you have to want to take to find a good Russian lady.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Tacos and Tamales, posted by Bob101 on Jun 19, 2002

It wasn't your first post that p!ssed me off...

It was your second and third, and then your quick "I'm gonna kick your a-" post...

That is when you revealed yourself for what you truly are...

[yoe]

... in response to Re: Tacos and Tamales, posted by Bob101 on Jun 19, 2002

Have you ever been to Tiajuana? (sp)
I hate to say this but democracy is has not got shet to do with anything. When the soviet union was alive they had maybe the highest literacy rate in the world. Druf addiction was unheard of. You would never see thousands of girls taken out of the country illegally and tricked into prostitution. They may not of had BMW's but they did not have to rely on welfare to survive either.
If you want to know what the real determining factor is!
It is education. And, the FSU still has one of the best education programs in the world. These children are about 2-4 grades above ours....................so I belive that you were looking in the wrong places.
It is like a 50 year old man wanting to marry  an 18 year old girl and wondering why he was scammed!
Maybe you just got what you ask for! Nothing personal, but judging from your responses to inquiry, I do not think that you are too serious about finding a life mate or strong partner that you would hold as your equa.
I could be wrong-if I am, I am sorry!
Joe

[yoe]

... in response to I change my mind, Latin it is!, posted by Jack on Jun 19, 2002

I just told my lovely Russian Bride-I am leaving for Columbia to marry a porn star! hahahaha
what is wrong with people.
Whoever send this email-I will pray for you-because you are such a pathic disease to humanity-as incurable as the one you probably caught from one of you ho's.
ps -I hope you burn in he11 for exploiting these women.
Joe