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Author Topic: Moscow Agencies - Do you know any good ones?  (Read 6002 times)
sHoustonc
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« on: May 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

Does anyone know of any good, local Moscow agencies with a web site? I am going to a couple of socials and want to supplement my trip. Thanks.
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CornellGuy
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Moscow Agencies - Do you know any good o..., posted by sHoustonc on May 20, 2002

www.russiangirlsint  My friend met his Moscow fiancee through there last year (sweet, genuine.... and a covergirl knockout) and they are quite happy together.  Yes, you won't be "The White God" by just showing up, but my friend is living proof of how nice, gorgeous girls exist everywhere in Russia..... even in Moscow.  Sorry, but saying there are no great wife-material girls in Moscow sounds like horsepucky from guys who don't have any more than their American passports and some flash $$ to make a good marriage!
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Moscow Agencies - Do you know any good o..., posted by sHoustonc on May 20, 2002


Go to www.scanna.com and do a search with Moscow as a keyword.

Go booklet by booklet, starting with the most recent.

There are some real beauties there. I just have heard that a woman from Moscow is not so much unlike a woman from New York...

And, according to some of the guys who have done tours and social in Moscow, you're most likely to meet "professionals" there... not ladies of traditional family values...

But... To each his own, I guess...

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Oatmeal
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Personally, I wouldn't go to Moscow... B..., posted by MarkInTx on May 21, 2002

David Besuden bought out Scanna years ago.  They decided to keep the companies under different names but it is the same owner.  You can expect the same service from each company.  

Now that Lena owns and controls the company and David is out the door, you can expect things to fall apart.  Lena is still promoting the company as if they were still married but nothing could be farther from the truth.  They haven't been a real couple for many years.

In fact, now Lena is shacked up with Dan, the former tour manager from Anastasia.  David knew this the whole time, so I assume they stayed married more for the benefit of keeping the company intact.  While David was over with a tour in Russia, Lena and Dan came to Winchester and moved the company to Maine, without the knowledge of David.

David was quite surprised when he got home.

Sorry for all the gossip but it is an interesting story.

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Surprise!!!  Scanna is owned by Anas..., posted by Oatmeal on May 22, 2002

But they are still run by a different group, actually. (The databases are not entirely the same, for instance)

I know nothing about Anastasia... but Scanna and I have had dealings, and I think they have been upfront and honorable.

I also like the format of their web site.

That's why I recommneded them...

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Jack
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Yes I know, posted by MarkInTx on May 22, 2002

Mark,

 They are run by the same people, although I think to a degree Elena and Dan try to shield that Anastasia and Scanna are owned and operated by the same owners. And your observation is correct in that the data bases are not entirely the same, although the most beautiful of ladies do appear on both sites.

 As you know Mark, as I have done for you on occassions, we hand deliver a lot of letters with a single red rose to many ladies on a weekly basis for men who are really just trying to confirm if the ladies are real (a scam busting service of sorts). We don't care what agency or website the ladies came from, as long as the guys have a name and address. Of all the agencies that guys buy addresses from, no other agency has as great a percentage of wrong, outdated information as Anastasia (including Scanna). If I were to put my educated guess at it I would say close to 45% of the information they sell and provide is bad.

 But it's not just Anastasia that has this problem, it is the same with many of the larger companies. How do you think you get 20,000 ladies in your data base?? .....Answer:You never delete any!

I am also guilty of having some wrong, or in-correct information. Twice a year we check our data base of ladies, twice a year I feel our information is about 96% correct. But in-between those 6 months checks we have ladies who move or get married and as such I tell guys that at any given time I suspect 90% of our information is correct. This is one of the reasons I prefer to keep the number of ladies on my site to less than 400, it's just easier to keep up with 400 ladies as compared to 15,000 ladies.

Only yesterday we delivered a letter and rose to A Ms. Victoria Mykhaylova from Odessa. She is ID number EC6749 with European Connection. Our client bought this address two weeks ago. Yesterday we were told by her mother that Victoria lives in Italy and has been married for FOUR YEARS!

Four years! I wonder how many times this ladies address has been sold? How many men have written this woman and wondered why she never responded back? All companies are going to have out dated information because it goes with the territory, ladies are going to move, get married and it takes time to get this information corrected in our data base, BUT FOUR YEARS!

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to did you know....., posted by Jack on May 22, 2002

Yep... That is a problem...

If everyone remembers... I had a bad experience with a lady that I got from Scanna, and had Jack deliver roses to.

If you are serious about a lady... this is money WELL spent... for all of you newbies.. take heed.

Jack can do it in Kiev, Odessa, and St. Petersburg (maybe other places... I dunno)

Kherson Rose can do it in Kherson.

DO NOT have the same agency that they lady belongs to send the roses. Have an "impartial" agency do it. That way you can be sure that the agency isn't the one running a scam on you...

Obciously, you can't send them out to 100 ladies... it's cost prohibitive...  But before you fall in love with a photo... send roses and make sure that the lady exists!

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Oatmeal
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Surprise!!!  Scanna is owned by Anas..., posted by Oatmeal on May 22, 2002

While on tour with Anastasia, they used the services of a marriage agency there in Moscow called Vesta-Fortune Marriage Agency.

I could only say that at the time two ladies were pretty much running the show there.  

Nina Rubashova, and Larrisa Shilnikova.

I don't know if anything has changed with their company but Nina was the main ramrod and she was very straight forward about her ladies and would tell you straight up if a girl was not so serious or only out for fun and games.

It bothered me a little that she kept some ladies there in her books that might be less than serious about marriage and not such a great catch but at least she was very blunt in explaining this and saved me a lot of time and money that could have been wasted in pursuing a dead end.  

My feeling was that Nina and Larrisa really were sincere in finding a decent lady for the men to meet.

They did not have a web-site at the time but their address is as follows.

Vesta-Fortune Marriage Agency
Russia, 121019 Moscow
Gogolevskij Boulevard, 15a
(3rd floor, "Vesta-Fortune")

Hours: noon - 7 p.m. M-F
E-mail:  Fortune@online.ru
Phone (office): 095 445-5258
(Nina's home phone): 095 203-7096

Hope this will help.

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thesearch
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Personally, I wouldn't go to Moscow... B..., posted by MarkInTx on May 21, 2002

Mark,

The guy is already going to Moscow so I am gonna try and make him feel better by countering you post a bit.

Moscow might be a good place for him to look. Or, maybe he will decide after that Moscow ladies are not what he is looking for after his trip. There are some very nice women in Moscow. I meet several.

It depends on what you are looking for. The ladies that I met in Moscow were overall more educated, knew how to compete in the work world yet were very feminine. If you like a woman who is able to hold her own and you are not threatened by such - not a bad place to look. Sure there are going to be sharks and prostitutes.

If you live in a small town or on a farm - I would not go to Moscow to find a wife. Once a city girl not uncommonly always a city girl. So you could be asking for trouble when she misses the city life.

But, hey some guys like country girls - women who are not as worldly. If that is the type of lady he wants I agree he is going to the wrong place. Each to his own. And, there are simple down to earth women in Moscow BTW.

One good point about Moscow ladies is that many of them are doing very well and they do not have the incentive to "get out" to the degree that ladies from other areas of the FSU have. And, some do not want to leave at all. While I was in Moscow I went to an agency that tries to connect Russian men and women. They had never had an American client before. I met two lovely ladies. I can not remember the name of the agency. Tootsie has a friend that I met while in Moscow who married a guy from Oregon and she talked him into moving to Moscow. Little chance of scam there. She initially took care of him financially from what I can tell. He is learning Russian and looking for work.

Hey from your post about custody, which was excellent by the way, I would guess you discovered all this from a friend who dealt with it all or personal experience.

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Personally, I wouldn't go to Moscow...., posted by thesearch on May 21, 2002


Alas... I know it all from personal experience...

As the one song says: "I keep learning things I didn't want to know!"

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greg2
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Custody, posted by MarkInTx on May 21, 2002

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thesearch
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Moscow Agencies - Do you know any good o..., posted by sHoustonc on May 20, 2002

Go to the area of this site that lists various agencies. There are a couple listed as promoting women from Moscow.

Also, you can use any of the larger agencies and search for ladies from Moscow. With using five or six agencies you will easily find many women from the Moscow area.

When you going to Moscow?

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sHoustonc
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Moscow Agencies - Do you know any go..., posted by thesearch on May 21, 2002

I'll be there in June for a week.
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thesearch
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Moscow Agencies - Do you know an..., posted by sHoustonc on May 21, 2002

That is coming up fast. From the list of agencies that I mentioned to search simply find ones that are actually located in Moscow,  contact them and go in and look at the ladies they have photo's of. I would do that right away as there might be a delay to see the ladies.

Also, at this late date, finding women from Moscow who have e-mail is your best bet for quick contact. With about three hours time on the computer you should be able to find an additional five to ten ladies that you can contact before your trip so as to set up a meeting.

Good luck and give us a trip report about your experiences.

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