Stupid agency or am I unreasonable?

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: the story unfolds......, posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

The problem with "drop ins' is that we have to call the ladies up and make the arrangement sight unseen (on her part), as opposed to our real job--matchmaking--where we help our male and female clients over a period of time. As I told you on the phone, each girl knew your age and each girl agreed. Having met you, they then changed their minds. They used your age as an excuse, which means either (a) they were lying to us when they agreed to meet you or (b) there is another reason (or reasons) they said no and they were just being polite--I have seen women say "no" to a guy "because of his age" only to say "yes" to another guy who is a few years older. Go figure. And do you really think that we would risk our reputation over $100?...sigh

[KenC]

... in response to Re: the story unfolds......, posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

europete,
They aren't pimps or slave traders, just an introduction agency.  What happens after the introduction is up to YOU, big boy!  Just because you struck out doesn't make them dishonest or bad in any way.  The deal was struck at $40 per intro for your "drop in" butt.  I am sure you would have got your 3rd intro if you paid the extra $20 and didn't pout off into the sunset like a spoiled brat.  Grow up.
KenC

[europete]

... in response to waa waa waa what a cry baby, posted by KenC on Apr 14, 2002

No KenC, the deal wasn't struck at $40.00 per meeting. It was, AS ADVERTISED, struck at 7 meetings for $100.00 per day, apartment included. But I did not need the apartment, but no reduction in price forthcoming. Still $100.00 per day for 7 meetings with INTERESTED ladies.
And I had 4 meetings with Kherson Rose girls; 2 bad meetings and 2 good meetings. So the whole thing with Kherson Rose is a question of them not delivering what was advertised. I don't expect all girls to fall head over heels for me; just be sincere in  their intentions. So yes, I am a "big boy" and know all meetings will not work out between 2 people.
How do you happen to state that the deal was for $40.00 per meeting for my "drop in butt" when you were nowheres near me when I was in Kherson making the deal. How did you become such an expert on what I did.
 

[KenC]

... in response to Re: waa waa waa what a cry baby, posted by europete on Apr 15, 2002

europete,
Sorry, but the agency's version of what happened sounds much more reasonable then yours.  How on earth could you expect more sincere women when you show up unexpected?  As I see it, you got more than what you paid for and you still owe them 20 bucks!  Who's the crook now?
KenC

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: waa waa waa what a cry baby, posted by europete on Apr 15, 2002

there was a "drop in" fee of $40 per meeting back in August. It included arranging meetings and an included interpreter for two hours of meeting. It's no use pointing to our present site, as we no longer carry that service because we modify our site each month, adding new ladies and dropping/modifying services that are not satisfactory or that simply cause problems. This was one such service, as was the $7 an hour interpreter fee (which was dropped to $5 an hour about six months ago). I explained this in an earlier post, which is why posters know this.

It is also interesting to note that you are now claiming that you had two good meetings through us.....so maybe we're only half crooked.....

[europete]

... in response to Re: Re: waa waa waa what a cry baby, posted by Tim M on Apr 15, 2002

Yeah, Tim, you are half-crooked. And your brother-in-law is half-assed.
Then that means a guy will pay twice as much to your agency for what he gets, doesn't it.

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: waa waa waa what a cry baby, posted by europete on Apr 17, 2002

You are a clever and articulate fellow. It's a surprise that women in Kherson are not fighting over you.

[WmGo]

... in response to waa waa waa what a cry baby, posted by KenC on Apr 14, 2002

It seems Pedro makes a good point about advising the local manager that if the lady is not interested in his age group that she should not set up the meeting in the first place. If the 19 year old girls complained about the age difference afterwards this indicates that the manager just took the money without consideration of the customer's instructions.

*BUT*, I don't see how any woman anywhere would be interested in a 38 year age limit. I personally feel that that is inappropriate age difference for a man to be pursuing in the first place. 57 and 19 is just a blatant attempt to take advantage of the economic situation in Ukraine and to rob the cradle. I have no respect for it.

And I think that an agency should have a policy of not arranging meetings with those kinds of age differences.

Yes, it is a free world, but that is how I see it. There has got to be a line somewhere.

My two kopecs...

WmGOdvakopec

[europete]

... in response to waa waa waa, posted by WmGo on Apr 14, 2002

Bill, I am not looking for a woman with children (although a few have made me think twice about that) so when one goes to Ukraine looking for a future wife, most of what is available is between 18-33 years old. That is the age range available, that is where I look. The oldest single lady without children I ever met in Ukraine was 32 years old. Still a big age difference, but you choose yours for you and I will choose mine for me.
I do not take anyone "in a blatant attempt to take advantage of the economic situation in Ukraine" who does not wish to be with me. And there are enough of them over there looking to "take advantage of the economic situation" and relieve men of their money in more ways than one.  

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: waa waa waa, posted by europete on Apr 15, 2002

I am curious...

You are 57. You said you want a woman with no children.

Are you looking to have children of your own?

If so... are you ready to change diapers and take care of kids when you are 60? 65?

If not... do you really expect to find a woman in her early twenties who will marry you, and give up the chance of ever having her own children?

[Tootsie]

... in response to waa waa waa, posted by WmGo on Apr 14, 2002

Hey, how are you? How is the weather in Alabama?

[WmGo]

... in response to Hi, WmGo!, posted by Tootsie on Apr 14, 2002

I am well. Business is good. The weather is great - blue skies, warm temperatures and an occassional Spring shower.

Hope all is well.

[bradley]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Stupid agency or am I unreas..., posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

your on post 4-13 is about k-pearls
post from 4-14 is on k-rose
do you mean you had dealings with both agents?

[europete]

... in response to you mentioned 2 services?, posted by bradley on Apr 14, 2002

Yes, in the 6 weeks I was in Kherson I had dealings with both of those agencies, as well as about 5 other agencies. And some are definitely better than others. Write to me and I will let you know which agencies I found to be the best from my experience with them. That would also apply to Kiev as well.

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: Re: Stupid agency or am I unreasonab..., posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

Bradley,

The more I think about it, the more you need to clear up the "confusion" you seem to be having between A Kherson Rose and Kherson Pearls. The sites are not even in the slightest bit similar (except for the 20 or so ladies (out of 100s) that are on both sites), which makes me wonder how you can confuse the two, especially when you are passing on a scam alert.

Y also need to name your source. There are too many people who throw around the implication of a scam in order to hurt other businesses. I know of one PL poster who is very good at creating the impression that a competing agency is a scam without assuming the liability of being straightworward and actually saying so. He can never quite remember which of the Kherson agencies are scams, but just to be safe........

Again, I am not commenting on Kherson Pearls--I am leaving that to people who have actually used the service (and why would you believe what a competitor would say, anyway?). But I don't want our agency dragged through the mud because someone can't remember all the facts before he posts a scam commentary.