Supply&Demand

[Mark W]

... in response to Actually, I Think it is MUCH Higher . . ..., posted by Dan on Feb 18, 2002


I agree.  Most are probably not leaving on K-1 visas, many are coming to US on H1-B programs or other countries equivalent.  Except for the last year Europe alone could have probably used 100,000 technology professionals each year.  It would seem logical at least 10% would be female.  Add in K-1 visas, illegal workers.  100,000 seems easily attainable.

[Dan]

... in response to Actually, I Think it is MUCH Higher . . ..., posted by Dan on Feb 18, 2002

Which puts the total emigration rate for Russia at close to 150,000 per year.

I doubt the ratio of men to women is anything close to 15:1, and probably not far from 1:1, hence the 10,000 women per year figure is undoubtedly way low.

- Dan

[Lara]

... in response to 10000 per year? Impossible!, posted by PrincetonLion on Feb 18, 2002

That statistic was given at my russian forum - i can't say it's true or not.

[terry]

... in response to Re: oh, terry, i wish you knew our mass ..., posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

Lara

You are right to love your country. I understand that. what I do not understand is, if you  do not agree with us, why come here to this post?  when you say " I wish you knew our mass media Propoganda. I would like to know it. you could , if you like , e-mail to me rather than use this post. But i would like to learn more about it.

Thank you

[Lara]

... in response to I think I understand, Lara, posted by terry on Feb 18, 2002

Well, one of the regs here, a russian guy left URL of this forum on a russian one,  where we were discussing international marriages
http://www.arbatova.ru/cgi-bin/ub2k/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=4&TID=255&SID=70899 you may have a look

sorry if i disturbed your company here, the topic is really interesting 4 me

[terry]

... in response to Re: I think I understand, Lara, posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

Lara

You did not disturbe me at all. I am sincere when I tell you I would like to learn more about what you are saying. the reason I ask you that question is , If you disagree with what we are doing, why talk to us abut it, why not talk to the russian women that want to marry an american.  I do understand that you have an interest in international dating. But you seem to be quite negative about it.  Just trying to understand why. I,m just learning, that's all

thank you

[Lara]

... in response to No,  you are OK, posted by terry on Feb 18, 2002

well, we were talking about it with rus women and men, there were a lot of complains and some positive experiences. I think mine is positive. Princelion offered an opportunity to talk on this forum, i used it - that's all
And if i stressed some most common mistakes of such marriages, i don't think i'm against them in general. But 2 be honest, private e-mail stuff is not interesting for me - coz it's time consuming, and i had lot's of free time today but it's a rare occasion.

[terry]

... in response to Re: where did you see i disagreed?, posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

I may be wrong. I just go t the impression that you did not agree with them. or maybe it was the age difference you were talking about. sorry

[jj]

... in response to Supply&Demand, posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

give or take a year.  IMHO

[Lara]

... in response to Rule: No more then 1/3rd of your age dif..., posted by jj on Feb 18, 2002

a fair combination to my mind is 3-7 years difference, both with or w/o kids, level of education shall be similar and religeon. I'm sorry to admit the rasizm of my country but ruswomen in general prefer white christian men, if they r da same, while responses r more from asians, arabs, indians..... If a woman is in a desperate situation and want to immigrate ANYWHERE but now........you can't expect a proper family in da future.......

[Vox]

... in response to Re: just 2 be fair, posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

in England, I mean, you are just another victim of the junky malarchy which goes under many disguises nowadays, like "multiculturalism"!
Russian women may have more common sense and self-preservation instinct than their decadent Western counterparts.
Why would be racism if one doesn't want to marry another race?
Wake up and smell the coffee, it's precisely for this, among many other idiocies why the world is upside down in the Western world now!
Now homosexuality is accepted, miscegenation more spread, to the point that any normal behavior, family, will become more and more scarce. No society which accepted that in the past, ancient or more recently, survived well.
It's also about responsibility, mixing races is nothing but relinquishing responsibility, wreaking havoc with one's future, society's, and so on. Not to mention the mutations!
By the way if you would know something about real Russian history, you would know how much the white (European) Russians suffered from the onslaught, and many times slavery by the savage tribes issueing out of Asia!
To stay within one's race is plain normal and makes all the sense from the natural self-preservation instinct which we are equipt with, but sometimes some forsake it to their own destruction.
your point here is totally ridiculous.
And by the way, if you are such a moral smart-alleck, how come YOU didn't go after some Indian?
It seems you didn't live what you teach!
As if England didn't became a putrid shadow of what it was, it's now a spineless nation, a den for Muslim terrorists, and generally any miscreantic third-world nation which is spreading their savage customs to their and their (British) hosts' destruction.

If only you would REALLY open your eyes and look around ...

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: just 2 be fair, posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

Maybe 60% of my age.  

Lara, where did you get an ejewcashun?  Just curious?

[Lara]

... in response to My life, my rules, posted by BubbaGump on Feb 19, 2002

Don't waiste your time talking to a troll - whatever troll means I'm not curious anymore, i've learned all i should. But what an idiot i was at my discussion to other russian females Now i see how right they were..........

[jj]

... in response to Re: just 2 be fair, posted by Lara on Feb 18, 2002

I am sorry but I think you are a Troll...  My parents where 13 years apart and I think this is reasonable. I still maintain that a gap of 1/3 your age is a reasonable guide gove or take a year or two.  IE if you are thirty look no younder then 20,  If you are 45 then 30 is the limit..  at 60 then 40 is your limit...  IMHO

[John K]

... in response to 3 to 7 years no way..., posted by jj on Feb 18, 2002

There are various rules of thumb that people use when looking for life mates.  The 2/3 your age rule is relatively realistic, and also the "1/2 your age plus seven" rule.  Of course these "rules" are nothing more than guidelines.  Exceptions always occur, despite the best of intentions.

I was 34, going on 35 when I hit it off with an 18 year old girl.  Once we started getting serious, I realized the large age difference between us and was almost put off by it.  However, my girlfriend told me that she had no problems with it, and questioned whether it was really that big a deal.  I gave her the benefit of the doubt and ended up marrying her.  At the time we married, she was 20 and I was 36.  We've been happy ever since.

Looking at the various rules, we shouldn't have tried.  At half your age plus seven, I should have been looking for a 24 year old and married a 25 year old.  At the 2/3 rule, I should have married a 24 year old.  Had I used these "rules" to govern my decisions, I would have passed up on the most wonderful person to ever grace my life.

Remember, that these are *guidelines*, not rules.  Your situation might not fit within what is considered the norm.  Before you throw out a potentially wonderful relationship, simply because of age, take the time to look at all the other things going on between the two of you.  If it bothers you, take the time to discuss it with your girl.  In my case, I found out much later that my wife has a thing for older men.  She didn't tell me this until after we were married, but I think she felt she might have scared me away if she had, for whatever reason.

Yes, it is important to give yourself a "reality check" when evaluating the potential relationship, but don't discount any one item unless it is going to be a showstopper for you.  If you hold out for that "perfect match" you're going to be searching for a long time...

As always, this is simply my 2¢ and strictly my opinion.  Do not take this while operating heavy equipment...