How do I record my telephone conversations?

[WmGo]

... in response to Re: Re: sure ?, posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

I don't know what Canadian or Australian law is on these subjects. But I take your word for it.

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Re: sure ?, posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

If the divorce is filed here it would seem that only American laws would apply. If you record your wife and her lover ( for example ) I suspect you couldn't use that in court, but if you could keep your cool you would be able to liquidate everything and sell ( very cheaply ) your business,home, and other things to relatives, and then file your divorce later thus leaving with most of your belongings, and if you have a child and want custody you would have time to make all your plans for this as well, like leaving with the child until she recievies divorce papers and a restraining order. I know I took one topic and went another direction with it, but these are things that men usually end up losing at without prior knowledge of what to do.
Mike

[Michael B]

... in response to As far as a divorce goes., posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

Only two problems with your advice. The first peice of advice is illegal and you'll like as not winding up loosing it ALL the assets you tried to hide (its called "fraud")instead of just part of them. As for the second piece of advice, unless the woman has at least 3 prior convictions for ax murder and/or child abuse, the judge is going to give HER custody of the child while the divorce is pending. Welcome to the real world.

[Mike]

... in response to Re: As far as a divorce goes., posted by Michael B on Feb 15, 2002


I don't know what backward state you are from, but in Ohio who ever has the child when they go to court usually keeps the child unless there is proof that the child is in danger. The law here sees no difference between mother or father and possession is 9/10th of the law. How do I know? 13 years ago when my son was 2 I over heard my wife making a date with another man, I then contacted an attorney without discussing anything with my wife. He told me to take my son and go some place that she can't find us and then he served her with a restraining order and divorce papers. From that point on she had to prove my child was in danger and she couldn't! It cost me $16,000 I'm legal fees but I did it! I even offered and paid for a mental exam and the results were that we were both good parents, and either of us could raise my son, thus the judge had no right to take my son from me. As for selling your home or business to a relative they must be able to prove you did it under false pretenses and I know men who have done this successfully!
Mike ---  who may live in his own world but the system I use to travel in it works!

[Michael B]

... in response to Re: Re: As far as a divorce goes., posted by Mike on Feb 17, 2002

I live in Texas, which truly IS a backward state in this matter. In Texas the law also says "no dinstinction" between the sexes of the parents....but the judges do what ever they feel like, which is 99.9% give the children to the woman. MY ex had been in mental hospitals FOUR times and the judge said it "wasn't relavent" because she was "seeking care" about her problem(s). Here's a clue for you about the expected outcome in Texas...the forms you fill out for the Child Support office are printed this way:
Custodial Parent; What is HER name?.......
Non-Custodial Parent; What is HIS name?.......

As for the wash property sales, maybe your friends' ex wives were just too stupid to contest it or maybe they just didn't care to.....A fraud sale isn't hard to prove at all, the 'wronged' party simply has to make the allegation and the other party has to prove that it ISN'T a fraud sale. (no 'inocent until proven guilty', remember, the property settlement of a divorce is a CIVIL case, not a criminal case).  Try selling your house or a going business to your brother for $100.00 then try to file for bankruptcy and see how fast they come down on you for a 'fraud sale' ...besides, in Texas, unless you already owned the house BEFORE you got married and can prove that she's never contributed a red cent to the mortgage/insurance/taxes/repairs/improvements, she ALREADY owns 1/2 of it and the best you can do is one of you buy the other out or sell it at fair market value and split the proceeds.

What can I say? Maybe in Ohio you people have better laws and/or apply them fairly, who knows? In Texas the law actually says that you automaticly FORFEIT (to the soon to be ex spouse) ANY and ALL property you try to conceal or dispose of in an attempt to 'defraud' the other party.

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: As far as a divorce goes., posted by Michael B on Feb 18, 2002

Dang that is screwed that they even have the documents made as his name and her name! I am lucky to live in Ohio! I know many men here who have custody of there kids. Also what is yours before the marriage will always be yours.

Most of the men I know who sold everything did this years ago and put everything of value in their childs name, or niece, nephew, but if a man is wise and knows a divorce is coming because of listening to her talk to a lover I would think there would be a clever way of doing this. Why not morgage the house to the point of no value for a business venture then put it in CD's ( you would lose some percentages on interest but look at the bigger picture)and say your investment was a failure. Sure it's a screwed thing to do but if you're creative I'm sure there is a way to do it, hey she is screwing you and another guy and if everyone is screwing everyone why not try screwing the system.

Or sell your house and tell her we're moving to Ohio and rent an apartment and and.(wink)
Mike

[JohnG]

... in response to As far as a divorce goes., posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

To do as you suggested would work only if you never let her know you had recorded the conversations and managed to use the information in such a way that no one could prove how you got that information.

If you record someone's conversation without their knowledge, even if they are plotting your murder (!?! I know this from conversations with attorneys and a US Marshall, not that I am saying I would ever have done such a thing as record someone's conversation without their knowledge), YOU can go to prison for making the illegal telephone recording. What a country!

[jj]

... in response to It is illegal to record telephone conver..., posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

Most answering machines can record a memi type conversation some have no time limits.  They alsoprovide the audui beep required by law...

[Vox]

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

a few ways to do it, now if one really wants to get the best quality in taping, which is the way to go?
Especially since my recording device is of very good quality, how can I get the best out of the machine?

[tim360z]

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

have a very simple device which is far superior to a "mike".

Simple modular input and outputs,  it's a "box".  Sells for 20 bucks and does a great job.  They work excellent.  Well worth 20 bucks.

[Vox]

... in response to I f there is a Radio Shack near they, posted by tim360z on Feb 14, 2002

can you elaborate a little bit?

[tim360z]

... in response to What's the name for that gadget?, posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

no name,  just a model # which I don't know.  Its a J box interface between your tel modular jack and your recorder...call radio shack...they'll know.  They are used alot,  especially for LE traps and intercepts.

[BarryM]

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

You should be able to buy a microphone that fits in your ear(like a ear plug or ear "bud" headphone). Olympus sells them for their microcassete recorders(standard jack). You just have to remember to keep the handset up to the ear with the mike when you are on the phone. If recording phone conversations is not legal in your state, they may not be available, otherwise a major office supply chain such as Office Depot will have them.

-blm

[Vox]

... in response to You can get an "ear" mike., posted by BarryM on Feb 14, 2002

there must be some better, more direct ways, I hope.