Sound Familiar?

[BubbaGump]

This is from another Russian forum.  It is a censured forum, so it can't get too nasty, but this individual is always saying stuff like this and the members are noticing.  

I don't understand. The US is a diverse nation of approximately 283 million people! Surely there are few nice women here? So why take on all of the extra risks, hassles and expenses associated with finding and marrying a RW? The ONE nice thing that has resulted from my limited RW experiences has been a greater appreciation of AW. Some of you guys need to stop and smell the roses right here in the good old US of A!!!!

[thesearch]

... in response to Sound Familiar?, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 23, 2002

I see nothing wrong with this post. There are a lot of great women here in the USA.

Men go for the superficial. Men just want a prettier woman. Men are responders of visual stimulation - they will pass up a woman who is beautiful inside to take a woman who is beautiful on the outside yet not having the same inner beauty that the homely lady possesses.

More highly evolved men are not like this. They place inner beauty first. Men who need that external beauty will not uncommonly not want to acknowledge this less evolved state that they are in by giving diversionary tactics such as telling you how beautiful she is  on the inner and this is why he picked her. Men simply forgive beautiful women for other areas that they are lacking plain and simple.

Me, I admit I am one these less evolved men. I can not change it. So, the only woman I will marry will be attractive to the eye plain and simple. I can appreciate the homely women as friends and enjoy and their company.

No, I will not just marry anyone attractive - there has to be enough inner substance or I won't go there.

[John K]

... in response to Does this sound familiar?..., posted by thesearch on Jan 24, 2002

While I admit to a slight vain streak, I wasn't looking for the hottie of my dreams when I was searching.  My only physical criteria was that she was totally healthy, didn't smoke, good physical condition, and that she was pretty enough that I could look at her for long periods of time without flinching.  (Not a high standard, I admit, but good enough for me.)

I ended up with quite the beauty.  Marina has the sophisticated beauty of a model and attracts mens' eyes like bees to honey.  Ironically, such beauty does not attract me.  I like the clean cut, fresh faced, girl-next-door look.  Marina's beauty is pleasant to me, but doesn't get me excited.

What did attract me to my wife was her openness and her willingness to be herself.  It was her standing up to me for what she believed in, that kept my interest in her.  While we often argued in the beginning, it also brought us closer to each other, as we began understanding how each other thought.  It's that same openness and honesty that keeps us together, despite the difficulties of a cross cultural relationship.

Still, physical beauty, is an important aspect of finding a wife.  If you cannot stand to look at her, chances are you are going to have a very difficult time establishing intimacy with her.  While physical beauty is far from a major issue in a long term relationship, it does go a long ways towards the establishment of one.  Such is one of those ironies of life...

As always, this is simply my 2¢ and strictly my opinion.  Your mileage may vary...

[thesearch]

... in response to There's beauty and then there's beauty, posted by John K on Jan 24, 2002

I am sure all you have written is exactly as you feel.

However, I point out that you did happen to get a beautiful wife regardless.

However, it  certainly sounds as though you are more evolved than me relative to your demands. Until you point out women that are acceptable in appearance, I am not sure I would really know what you mean by acceptable. Your acceptable might be very very attractive. ))

I know, this will answer my curiosity --- Out of every 100 women you see around your age where you live, how many are acceptable in appearance (that criteria only) to you relative to your standards?

John, I forgot, if I might ask, what again is the age difference between you and your wife?

Greg

[John K]

... in response to Re: There's beauty and then there's beau..., posted by thesearch on Jan 24, 2002

I'd say that out of 100 women, assuming they are fit and don't smoke, I would find 80 to 85% acceptable.  I'm not very picky.  Of course, finding one that is physically fit, doesn't smoke, and still dresses decently at 37 is a bit of a challenge.  If they exist, they're probably married.

Age spread is very large for Marina and I.  She's 21, which puts 16 1/2 years between us.  When we started getting serious, I was pretty worried about an 18 year old hooking up with a 34, going on 35 year old man.  Somehow, she managed to convince me to take the chance.  It was not what I was looking for, but it works.

[thesearch]

... in response to In answer to your question, posted by John K on Jan 24, 2002

good luck to you both - any pics available?

[BarryM]

... in response to Sound Familiar?, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 23, 2002

nt

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Which forum ? /nt, posted by BarryM on Jan 23, 2002

I think my point is that I beleive there are a small number of dedicated trolls that try to disrupt every forum that they can find on Russian women.  That forum is a restricted group, so people find other ways to disrupt it.  They just post a bunch of negative comments of less verocity.  They also gather subscribes emails if they can and send this RWL Moderator email out to trick you if they can.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Which forum ? /nt, posted by BarryM on Jan 23, 2002

It's a Volga Girl Agency forum called RWL (Russian Women's List).  It is a forum you subscribe to and you get about 50 emails a day in your mailbox.  It's a bit of a pain to subscribe to.

Here's another weird thing.  About once a week I get an email from an address that says "RWL moderator".  Part of the email is posted below, but it gets worse and accuses the agency owner of obtaining your personal information to embarass you if your opinions conflict with his. I think it's all nonsense written to attack agency owners like people do with Jack.  Apparently, no forum of this type is safe from a motivated troll.

"RWL Members are subject to Joe XXX’s warped standards of censorship. Any opinions that conflict with his own are usually suppressed before they’re posted to the group. Your ability to post will be rescinded whenever your opinion conflicts with either his business-interests or fundamental beliefs. You’ll also be openly ridiculed and not permitted to respond in-kind."

[Bob S.]

... in response to Re: Re: Which forum ? /nt, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 23, 2002

I think that's the Yahoo groups' RWL, not to be confused with the St. John's RW-List which is also by subscription (and will get your in-box flooded with 100 posts a day).  And yes, quite a few people on other forums have mentioned a distaste for JW's style as moderator.  As I don't subscribe to his list, I can't really say myself.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Which forum ?, posted by Bob S. on Jan 24, 2002

I haven't really been reading posts unless the subject line interested me.  I haven't noticed any undue censorship yet.  It's a great way to keep things from getting out of hand though.  The trolls have to be a little nicer.  Funny how I mention it on that forum and then they come over here for a visit.  It tells me some of the same trolls are on both boards.  They act so childish, like I haven't seen that behavior before.

[jj]

... in response to Re: Re: Which forum ? /nt, posted by BubbaGump on Jan 23, 2002

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