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LP
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« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: The best...., posted by ChipShot on Dec 23, 2002

....collect some duct tape, a blender and a gerbil, then...

No wait, is that right? I always mix up shoe oiling and the procedures for when you're *real* lonely, because they both involve gerbils. I'll check my notes and get back to ya.

I used "another" agency when I began and then went straight to doing it on my own via ICQ and email because I wanted to limit it to only women who spoke English and have Internet access. However, I still maintain the personal ad is one of the best ways to get started. I could tell you this agency's name (run by a very nice R/W in South Africa of all places), but I'm indebted to Jack for his occasional help, genuine interest in solving his clients problems, and the quality of the people he employs.

You could do much worse than to deal with him and my suggestion is to do so. Besides, finding these girls is kinda the easy part, there ain't no shortage of them. Seperating the wheat from the chaff is the challenge. Listen to Jack and the others here, keep an open mind, *do not* set a time limit, and above all else don't allow yourself to get too caught up in the whole thing.

lol, And dont expect a "hole in one", Chipshot. Just stay at it and be patient. Also, try to make yourself stand out from the rest somehow.

Rememeber, the squeaky shoe gets the grease. Or sumthin like that....

Good luck to ya.

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DE
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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Finding the One, posted by ChipShot on Dec 23, 2002

I think you're on the right track by going with Jack.  He can teach you more in one trip then anyone I know.  My advice is if this is your first trip, stick with him as he has all the connections necessary to make your trip come together like a swiss watch.  Now honestly, you got to get this idea out of your head that you ARE going to get married next year.  NO!  You are going to try and find a EE women next year that meets the crieteria which you have decided upon in regards to what you are looking for in a wife.  You will get married ONLY if you meet the RIGHT one, otherwise you will have an enjoyable trip and you will continue to pursue this endeavor until you find the RIGHT one!  That should be your goal!  FWIW
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ChipShot
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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Finding the One, posted by DE on Dec 23, 2002

I appreciate this advice. I spoke in definitive terms, simply because I've often felt that when I set my mind ot a task, I tend to be more focused, and good things tend to happen. Just tonight, I came across a site that appears reputable, wherein a fairly sophisticated, well educated man talked about spending five years in pursuit of a wife. A photo depicts him, alongside a happy, attractive woman, in his home. He followed the advice you're giving, which is to be thoughtful and methodical about the search.

Again, any advice on the best way to go. Ads in papers? Certain sites, such as AFA, or angelika network? I'm still confused about how to conduct the search.

Thanks for not mentioning gerbils. Smiley

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DE
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« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Finding the One, posted by ChipShot on Dec 23, 2002

There are many ways to do this.  Everyone that has done this on the board will have an opinion.  Like most things in life, it comes down to each his own.  FWIW here is my two cents in a nut shell:

First, think of this as a long term endeavor

Second, ensure that you have the appropriate capitalization to do it correctly.  Although you can typically do the trips reasonably around $3000 (some say $1000 but I think that's not sufficient for your first experience).  The longer you stay, the more cities you visit and if you attend socials, these will all add more.  For your first trip, plan on $4500!  Better to have to much, then not enough.  But figure that this whole thing may cost upwards to $13,000+ before you actually find the right one (then it costs more Smiley).

Personally, I'd plan on about three weeks minimum for a first trip but I'm sure two weeks would suffice (although you'll be crying that you have to leave to soon).  In addition, I'd plan a follow up trip in late summer or very early fall (again weather).  This is to follow up on those special lady(s) you may have met on the first trip.

Now, once you've accepted these things, you're over the biggest hurdles.  Now the adventure begins.

If it was my first trip, I'd look at taking it in late spring or early summer.  Better weather and you can get out to do a lot more sight seeing and stuff with the ladies.

I'd pick a city to concentrate my efforts on.  Just seems easier to be based in one location and time is spent more productively.  First trip I'd choose either Kiev, Moscow or St. Petes.  They're large, have direct flights in, lots of attractions, and if the trip is a failure, heck, you can get in some great sightseeing.

Once you've decided on where you want to go, I'd plan on placing some ads in the local papers starting about four to six months in advance to start your screening process.  From these letters, you'll soon learn how to detect those that seem more sincere.  You will want to have let those that are sincere know that you will be coming to visit and that you would be interested in meeting them.  You can supplement these with agency letters if you want, but I'd see what the ad response is first.  Agencies are good back up plans.

Start learning some basic Russian.  The ladies appreciate your attempt and it shows them that you are sincere in learning their culture.

Decide on the trip dates.  I don't recommend the big socials.  But I have been to one of Jacks small ones and found them to be quite interesting and a lot of fun.  Also, I had an opportunity to meet some of the guys on the board as a result of the socials.  I'll front Rags and WSbill off as two of 'em.  But, you can do well without going to socials.

Connect with someone like Jack to arrange to have someone meet you at the airport, find you an apartment, get you settled in, introduce you to some local agencies (back up plan), etc.  Call Jack, he can give you better details regarding this stuff.  Get yourself a city map, learn where the agencies are, stop by 'em to introduce yourself, look through the catelogs, start making backup plans without committing to any.  Hook up with a reasonably priced translator as you will be spending a lot of time with them.

Meet several women, even if one particular lady knocks your socks off!  Be yourself, use your head, follow your heart and have fun.  But most important, don't settle for less then what you want in a wife.  AND if by some chance you think (or know) you've met the right one, let her know that you'll be back to see her as you want to get to know her better before making such an important decision.  (Yep, plan on a minimum of two trips, possibly three!).

Okay, I'm sure the other guys can give you their two cents so this is all from me.  Good luck in the promised land!

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Rags
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« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to The Search, posted by DE on Dec 24, 2002

But watch out for those Moscow Girls. They'll make you scream and shout. IMO a great city to sightsee but not to look for a wife (sour grapes). Ukraine Girls really knock me out.
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Mike
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« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Well said..., posted by Rags on Dec 24, 2002

True any big city can produce women that'll make you scream and shout, but it is best to base yourself in a big city and make the women come to you,instead of meeting them in their village. The girls may enjoy a trip to the city?? The main thing is you'll know there isn't a few guys waiting for you to get off the train and rob you.

I met my wonderful wife in Moscow. She moved there from a smaller city for a better job.

What I worry about in your quest is the step-children issue you'll both be facing.

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Paul S
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« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Well said..., posted by Mike on Dec 24, 2002

well said
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