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Author Topic: Opinions please  (Read 9021 times)
aonnnn
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« on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

My fiancee wrote this in a letter, and although I was never meant to see it, I have (testing out online translators). I was heartbroken, but she says it is translating it wrong (but have tried 4 translators). I want to know if she does not love me, and I do not want to live a lie. Can someone translate it truly to understand it's meaning so I can know the truth.

Thanks

The text..

Мой дорогой женишок :-)) ко мне очень хорошо относиться :-) И очень любит.Но я увы
пока его не могу по любить :-(((
Не знаю почему! Может быть моё сердце пока осталось в Баку!
Но конечно, он не знает что я его не люблю. Он думает что я его очень люблю  не
могу без него жить.Не дай бог он узнает о том что я его не люблю, он просто не
простит меня и не сможет жить от такой мысли :-) Он это всегда говарит. Что не дай
бог я от него уйду или разлюблю. Он этого очень боиться. И может не пережить
этого :-((
Я как нибудь пошлю тебе фотки наши с ним :-)

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Mike
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Opinions please, posted by aonnnn on Dec 18, 2001

My wife read and translated it and it is as RW says it is.
However this is more complex then most can imagine. Without knowing how much time you spent with her, and without knowing really anything other then what she wrote. It is rare that a women will instantly fall in love with an American instantly if she is wise. BUT there is the possibility that she see's in you a future and it is in her head but has not reached her heart yet ?? I mean she did say her heart was somewhere else, perhaps she is in the middle of forgetting him and wanting a future with a loving man. It just takes time to really find out what is going on. Who knows , maybe she wants to cover her ass in the event she hates it here, or in fear of something going wrong in your relationship in the future. I know it all is a crazy mess  for you at this point. Follow your instincts and ask yourself is it possible she is gambling just as much as you are ?
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thesearch
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Opinions please, posted by Mike on Dec 19, 2001

First of all our poster has  not returned. What does this mean? All specupation.

What is your opinion on the translation?

Can this post be anything but bad?

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thesearch
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Opinions please, posted by aonnnn on Dec 18, 2001

First of all  I assume that you are legit - and I apologize but a little voice in my head said smart troll and I will explain later - and is it not a pain in the butttt that we even have to have a word called troll -----------

But let me tell you how I feel for what you have been going through in  trying to understand all of this. RW's translation is pretty clear don't you think?

However, You need to focus on another side of this. God was shining over you the day your fiancee accidently sent you that e-mail. I mean would you ever proceed with the K-1 process with a woman whereby you knew she did not love you? Of course not if you have a brain - and I assume you do.

In this case  ==  clearly you are a ticket to a new life only - plain and simple.

Thank your lucky stars you found out now and not later when she was back home with you and she leaves you and the INS now wants you to support her.

Now why did the troll question come to mind? I do not know it just did. So, I used an electronic translator with your message. To me, it came out quite clear in the translation that she did not love you - there was no question. So, that even makes me wonder more. Why would this person even have a doubt about this lady being sincere ?  

There are only two explanations that I could come up with. You are a troll with a whole new tactic - if so, I take my hat off to you for your creativeness or

You may be too trusting  - to the point of not being able to see red flags of much less significance than this one and then even having to question one that hits like a 2x4 right across the head. If this is the case, and of course I would not know just from one post, I urge you to self evaluate your trust factor and your willingness level to question little red flags. I say this because, I would be surprised if there were not red flags prior to this that should have raised your suspicion.

If you want to help yourself as well as others who might be of the temperament to ignore red flags - look back and think about this and let us know what in retrospect were red flags.

I would hate to see you join the ranks of what I have termed the La La Land Patrol.

If you are too trusting, I think you need to frequent this board to help you gain perspective.

But there is good news. You learned a lesson and there are soooooooo many wonderful women over there - it is very hard not to find one that is right for you if you are patient. Hey, the road to getting there has plenty of women like the one you hooked. My advice - keep fishing and when you get what you think is a good one on the line do not punish her from paranoia from this experience but just keep your eyes open - as red flags are usually there to protect you.

Again, sorry for what you have gone through. Time will heal your wounds, the wound would have been much more costly had she not screwed up in sending to you that e-mail. You are lucky.

Good luck to you

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aonnnn
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Cleaver Troll or too trusting?, posted by thesearch on Dec 19, 2001

Sorry for no follow up, it has been a week where I have been trying to acertain exactly what is going on. I hope I do not seem the heel in this, but I put a spy program on my computer to know where she goes, what she does, and every key she presses...

We talked about this, and believe it or not, there really have been no real red flags up till this point during the entire last year and a half. In addition to the translation of that one letter, I have gotten into email she has written that dates back a ways, and every email except to this one girl talks about how much she loves me, so it is weird.

She says this girl is a friend she knew in school and grew up with. This girl is a lesbian and although it is strictly a friendship to her, the other girl has some sort of undying love for her. She did not want her to know how happy she was (she says) because it would break her heart.

I wanted so much to believe her, and there have been no other signs. She is also not your normal fiancee visa because I can't imagine for the life of me what she would want to scam me for. She misses her home, and her Mom makes much more money than me and she led a very good life at her home. She even asks me that if she does not like it here after three months, then can we move to her home, because she never wants to be without me.

I want to believe of course...

So I know it seems a bad thing to snoop in on her privacy by monitoring her actions, but what other choice have I? Should I continue to do it and see what happens or what?

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tim360z
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Opinions please, posted by aonnnn on Dec 18, 2001

the scrapheap.  There are always doubts and doubts prior to marriage....but,  if RW's translation is correct.  Give her the gate...'cuz her heart will always be in Baku.  These beginnings of a marriage are auspicious...at best and look out for what could be comin' around the corner.
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RW
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Opinions please, posted by aonnnn on Dec 18, 2001

My dear groom... he treats me very well. And loves me a lot. But unfortunately I can not fall in love with him.
I don't know why! May be my heart is still in Baku!
But of course, he does not know that I don't love him. He thinks I love him a lot and can not live without him. God forbids he will find out that I am not in love with him, he will never forgive me and will not be able to live with a thought like that Smiley He always says so. That God forbids I will leave him or stop loving him. He is very afraid fo that. And may not survive it.
I will send you our pictures when I have a chance.
-------------------------------------------------

aonnn,

there is a lot of irony and sarcasm in her lettter (as well as grammar mistakes). I am not sure if my translation carried it.

You were absolutely right in your suspicion.


Russian Wife


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Ryan
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Opinions please, posted by aonnnn on Dec 18, 2001

You might want to try a three-way call with a Russian translator to get the real story.  Even then you will have to make a decision.  I mean the online translators are not perfect but not totally wrong.  She has some explaining and talking on the phone works well for this.
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