clarifications...

[pat]

ok theses days i'm not in my best mood ever(lots of exams, few sleep) so i'm not really in an open minded state of mind...
But what REALLY annoys me, is that my post was about infidelity and RW, not infidelity and SM(swiss men). So the assumptions that 'im not faithful are competely out of topic, and if u really want to know i have never cheated ONCE(even a kiss) in my whole life..Sometimes it happens that u realise u r with th wrong person by meeting another one, so in that case i'd have dumped my other gf to be with the "better" one, and don't tell me it never happened to you.MOrover in this case, i knew even if i had a goood time with my moscow gf(that i met in a CLUB, so what kind of pple do u meet in clubs anyway, even morein russia??lol)that she wouldn't be my partner for life...so this is why i had to go see MArina, and this is why i thought IF i thought sth SERIOUS could happen between us, i'd have dumped my moscow gf..OK now???
And about going to Russia for sex, just don't kid me, r u innocent?? don't tell me i'm desperate if i go to russia for sex, because in 90% of the pple i met it was a bit the case(people my age, 25 and younger learning russian and all)....It's soooooooooo easy, to pick up a girl on a street or ina club...you can tell all the most naive sentences(f.ex: ya dumayu chto te ochen krassivaya)and sh'll smile and be firendly with you, and a few hours later she's in the sack...
So jeff, u have been once in russia, u brought ur wife back, and she had never been with anyone before that..SO what do u know about this country??? like u all(or almost) before this summer i was in Alice in wonderland, and russia was the paradise to find a good wife...
But after 3 stays in russia, 2 in diff families, speaking a bit of the language and these 2 months this summer, i arrive at the same conclusions than the guy who posted on the RWL: the advantage of MOST(not all) RW is they like sex(and money) better than men and maybe more....and the disadvantage is u know the rest...
BUt i agree that if u manage to find a good RW, you have truly found a gem, and someone that i think would be extremely difficult to find in a western country.Someone almost perfect, in the sense that she will have the same way of thinking about fidelity than a western one, but also all the things that make us melt in RWs
SO coming back to going to russia for sex, it would be one of the reasons i go there, but ther's not it...Beccause i truly love that country, the warmth of people, their hospitality and culture, their fascinating backgrounds and their way of living(i'm thinking about expatriate myself if i find a good opportunity to get a good job there after my diploma). I've got good rusisn friends, and what else..i just love it!!!
So when i say i go to russia for sex, i mean that i won't go there with a marriage oriented mind, but only a FUN oriented mind, just as i had been to the states for example...BUt who knows what can happen?
it's maybe the best way to find it, to stop looking:)
ANd BTW as i said, going to russia for sex doesn't require at all that u write to women beforehand....i wouldn't allow myself to  this way of using people just to get sex, spending 2 hours at propaganda in Moscow is way more efficient LOL!!!

So no offense anyone, but pls, when u look at a post, read it by the topic and don't make conclusions when you don't know the facts....
And even if u knew them, it's not your business, so....(have you ever seen me once judging someone here??and this is why i don't post, because it seems it's just like there was a prize to get the most strangest things ina story to be able to yell troll or whatever before the others...

So sorry DR, i agree i have been a little rude, i don't know u and i judged you, but you started 1st(and my father is going to kick ur ass anyway!!!:))), and it just wasn't my day...

SO good luck to u all

[Rojak]

... in response to clarifications..., posted by pat on Dec 14, 2001

Whew! Trying to read your semi-literate post is really hard work! I'd like a dose of whatever you're usin'! Perhaps you could slow down long enough to click spell check and grammar check next time. It would help some of us slower readers. Thanks!

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: clarifications..., posted by Rojak on Dec 14, 2001

Too bad pat just got banned by Patrick for having a freakout on here.

Like I said to Spyke. You shouldn't post while stoned.

-blm

[DR]

... in response to It's a shame., posted by BarryM on Dec 14, 2001

n/t

[wsbill]

... in response to clarifications..., posted by pat on Dec 14, 2001

Your whole storyline is like one long sentence,... hit the space bar a few time and the return, break up you message...  Your msg is hard to read.

[pat]

... in response to Re: Where did you learn to write...., posted by wsbill on Dec 14, 2001

write the same in french and we'll discuss it later

[juio99]

... in response to Re: Re: Where did you learn to write...., posted by pat on Dec 14, 2001

1

[DR]

... in response to Good for you pat;   se habla espanol.  n..., posted by juio99 on Dec 14, 2001

n/t

[pat]

... in response to Si senor.  Come esta Ud?  Or, kako si ti..., posted by DR on Dec 14, 2001

waow cool ur litterate...but honestly(maybe i'm ridiculous but i really don't care, i'll certainly never see one of u anyway) but i don't get ur answer about my dignity...
i know that i have nothing i've done that worries me and make me feels bad, my integrity is intact, and what i find the more sad(ok i'm stil going to sleep at night)is that if we had met in different circumstances, i certainly would think ur a nice guy, and u the same(about me i mean, i know that u think ur a nice guy)...
so think of me as u want but my dignity is intact thanks!

peace anyway

[DR]

... in response to Re: Si senor.  Come esta Ud?  Or, kako s..., posted by pat on Dec 14, 2001

You mean you don't like me!  Inconceivable!  How could anyone dislike moi?    Seriously, I don't have a problem with you.  If you read my message to Zink below, I wasn't trying to attack you.  I wanted only to understand what you were trying to say...and how your behavior was any different from that of the MW's behavior.  I still don't understand.  In fact, when I first read your message it bothered me so much I asked my wife to read it.  She read it and came to the same conclusion without any prompting of my own.  "Peas in a pod", I guess.  Anyway, we're still homies in my book...distant homies, but once a homie, always a homie.    Oh, 'homie' is not to be confused with its very distant cousin, 'homo'.  I know, they look alike but they should never be confused.  

Ciao...
DR

[pat]

... in response to Re: Re: Si senor.  Come esta Ud?  Or, ka..., posted by DR on Dec 14, 2001

the most important is that i understand myself anyways:)

[pat]

... in response to Good for you pat;   se habla espanol.  n..., posted by juio99 on Dec 14, 2001

ksejelnyu nyet:)

no but i really want to learn it...i have been thinking for a long time of learning it, but i always thought after i'm done with russian...unfortunately, russsian is taking more time than i thought:)..but next year it'll go better and i'll be able to start at last...at least i hope so!!
where r u from in Spain?? i met so many cool spanish people while in russia, most of them from barcelona. NExt summer if u want to come with us, just leave a msg here, i'll give u the adresses for cheap lodging and studying if u r interested...

[DR]

... in response to clarifications..., posted by pat on Dec 14, 2001

Pat, quit while you still have some dignity.  You've chosen to avoid the issues directly so there's no reason, personally, to continue this thread.  All my best.

Cheers...
D.R.

[pat]

... in response to Re: clarifications..., posted by DR on Dec 14, 2001

me neither, but it's cool, because at least i've seen that some people haven't evolved for a single step, and are still in the alice in wonderland period i was talking about...

IT's so funny how for some pple here being russian makes you perfect...WAKE UP AND OPEN YOUR EYES!!!

good luck to you , u'll need it(oh my god)