Here is my story, I'm not a Troll

[No more RW]

I've been married now for 5 months to a RW, 25 years old. Oh how I heard all the hype, RW are so great, so friendly, with class, an education, who act like women, blah blah blah. I spent about 15,000 dollars to get my RW over here, it was a dream come true to finally bring her here.

But now it's been 6 months since she has been here with me, and what have I learned? Plenty, that's for sure.

RW by nature are very lazy, as a matter of fact, Russians in general are a very lazy people, pressumably from Communism where they don't need to strive hard for anything. Secondly, I have become familiar with the Russian Community in my city, these Russians who come over here are extremely predjudice towards Americans, they believe Americans are stupid, shallow, and worthless. They feel themselves far superior to some dumb American, that's why they don't associate with Americans. And they constantly talk bad about them.

For all of you who are thinking about getting yourself a RW, you better think again. Who was it on this board who said that RW have bad breath? Ah, it was LearPilot, right? ..........Well, LP was right, they do. You see, dentistry is free in Russia, it just isn't worth a anything, that's all. As every American knows, free gets you nothing. My girl has about 10 cavities that need to be fixed, with something like 3 root canals, and two crowns needed, and she was at a dentist two years ago, cool huh? That will cost me another 3000-5000 grand.

My girl won't clean our place, she won't clean the bathroom, or the kitchen, or anything else. Once in a while she will do a load of laundry, if I'm lucky. The only thing she will do for me is cook, that's it.

Everyday I wake up and wonder how I have come to be here in this situation, and how I can get myself out of it, I feel completely stuck with her.

From her I have met about 10 RW, every single one of them are as lame as can be, none of them impress me even a little bit, they have the worst personalities a person could have.

And RM? Oh, I could really talk about RM. They are the biggest punks that ever existed, I can't stand them. Personally I'm hoping that we go to war with Russia soon, because I would like to join such a war and fight Russians. Believe me, they are decieving lying people, and they hate us, when they get there chance, they will try to defeat us.

Moscow, 11/15, huge survey done, a question was posed to Moscowvites, "do you think America deserved what happened Sept 11th?", ..........80% of those polled said,...........YES!

You didn't know that did you? Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Russians hate Americans, and they always will. We have many enemies around the world, and they can all go @#$* themselves too.

No, I have done the Russian wife thing, and I have learned my lesson, I would never do it again, no way, no how, no chance. I'm just hoping she will go home soon, she doesn't belong here in the USA, and I don't belong with a Russian.

No more RW

[BarryM]

... in response to Here is my story, I'm not a Troll, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

I can't believe anyone would assume this scumbag's post has any ring of truth to it. The only proper response to this scumbag is to tell him/her to fu¢k off. Why argue with an evil troll?

-blm

[jj]

... in response to Here is my story, I'm not a Troll, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

I can not belive this post.  It is far from the truth of my experience.  There is no way you can tell me that Russian/Ukrainian Women are Lazy...  To the contrary they are very hard working and responsible...  they run the country and YES ther are better eductated than most Western countries... Hell it sounds to me that you should have briygh a horse and check the mouth for age...  if you truely loved this girl..  and clearly you did not...  all that you post does is demonstate that you are a shallow uncareing pathetic individual with no understanding of anyone that does not fit your limited view of women.  Why did you look for a RW relationship in the first place?...   I agree Jack can be a pain in the butt and in many cases he makes inappropiate comments but you are over the top...

If you are serious then seek help now...  else you are a troll and sadly Jack is right...

[No more RW]

... in response to You are a troll or just plain wrong..., posted by jj on Nov 24, 2001

"all that you post does is demonstate that you are a shallow uncareing pathetic individual with no understanding of anyone that does not fit your limited view of women"

That is very kind of you sir, thank you most graciously.

[Charles]

... in response to You are a troll or just plain wrong..., posted by jj on Nov 24, 2001

nt

[mdante99]

... in response to Here is my story, I'm not a Troll, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

I am married to girl from EE; and I have known many RW; so I speak with some experience.
By and large RW come here looking for a good relationship and a better life; most of them are very hardworking; however many would rather live in their native country, even after being here for many years; but you would also prefer your own culture, even if you lived someplace else. Almost no RW I have met have come here solely for the visa.
In addition many of them struggle through our job market with considerable difficulties.
This having said, there are cultural problems AM/RW have that need to be overcome; many couples cannot overcome that.The major problem is that RW are very social, and stuck in American suburbia with no place to go, little job skills, and little knowledge of English, is like the kiss of death for them.
I would hope that more AM, instead of blaming the RW would look at things from their perspective. It is a completely different picture, the one I was able to comprehend only by listening to them often.

Mark

[jj]

... in response to Not All RW Are The Same, posted by mdante99 on Nov 24, 2001

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[John Nic]

... in response to Not All RW Are The Same, posted by mdante99 on Nov 24, 2001

As mdante99 said, this is why I'm trying to find a “local” support group or some people that have been through prior to getting emotionally involved with someone from a different country.

[No more RW]

... in response to Not All RW Are The Same, posted by mdante99 on Nov 24, 2001

You describe it perfectly Mark, but what do you do about it??? You have accessed the problem, but what is the solution?

I don't know, maybe we can still make it, but it's really on rocky ground, she of course has her side of it, I have mine.

I just wonder, is this a good thing? Should we have to try so hard, overcome so many difficulties, it's been a long road for me, I'm getting tired, it's much harder than I had anticipated.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Not All RW Are The Same, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

....six months? Good God man, are ye a lollipop?

99% of the things we do (especially worthwhile, long term things) are harder than we anticipate. Why would this be any less so?

Sometimes that difficulty is from poor planning. I remember a movie where the Duke himself once said, in that John Wayne drawl; "Life is hard....real hard if you're stupid"

I also don't know your prior situation but if you screwed the pooch planning wise, it's simply time to compensate for it. What can you do to adapt? Have you talked to her? Has she talked to you?

Am I yapping at a fictious troll? lol..Why do I get the feeling this is a waste of time?

[mdante99]

... in response to Re: Not All RW Are The Same, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

I refrain from giving personal advise without knowing the situation better. But here are some generalities that I have learned from my own experiences.
First of all recognize that you are in most cases bringing a young girl to USA, who believes that life will be good and prosperous in America; that is the first let down, for most of us are comfortable but far from prosperous.
Also please remember that almost every Russian man or woman believes that the Russian culture is the best in the world; that is the way it is, you think the same way about your culture, the Japanese and the French think the same way about their language and culture.
You married the girl, you did not know that?
The RW in USA want to work; but they have exceedingly difficult time getting a job, sometimes any job. She looks to you for support, every day, and every hour.
If you are unwilling or unable to provide that support, you should not have married her.
Social isolation for the RW is probably the worse curse in USA. You went to her country, you noticed how people in FSU are always socializing; something just not done here. She must have a way to get around; you must arrange for her to learn driving.
And STOP blaming the RW; that is your biggest mistake, she came here because you made some promises to her and now she sees that those were unfulfilled promises.
My marriage has worked out very well, I have posted on this Board for some time now; and I was fully aware of the pitfalls, and prepared myself and my girl for it well.

I think it is imprudent for anyone to venture into this without knowing the risks, and there are many and specially a vast cultural difference between the AM and the RW.

Patrick has let your post and the responses intact because he believes and rightfully so that many AM get into this over their heads, only to wake up when they are drowning.

Mark

[jj]

... in response to What To Do?, posted by mdante99 on Nov 24, 2001

Mark full spport for your comments..  and yes I also think Patrick is doing a good job and if readers stick around they will see through the hype and bulls__t attacks and generalisations.  But there is collective wisdom and it is not just "sex tourism" as I first thought. (Althouth there is a lot os sexist remarks.. but hell we are sexual beings... and men (inc some women) after all).  But the talk of War and hostilities between the USA and Russia is someting I can not fathom.  I still fail to understand the merits of teh Cold War..  other to divide the world on political values.  In the end Russia and Ukraine share the same human asperations, dreams and desires...  in their case they can be down to earth if not a little disallusioned by the "American Dream".  There is more to the west than the USA.  And this board has an international flavour.  I am not rying to put down the USA..  I do not support any overt Nationalism or any overt dominate ism.. for that matter.  (Communism, Capitalism, Socailism) Truth lies somewhere inbetween and the line is always shifting...
As has been my thoughts on this board.  (I must admit I hold this board in hiugher regards than the RWNA-Take2 Shane Neuff (I am bitter) board)

[jj]

... in response to Re: Not All RW Are The Same, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

You have said it yourself.  Your comments are conflicting...  on one hand you complain about her being lasy and now it seams you are lasy.  why did you marry this girl and how long and well did you know her before hand?  You still seam to fail to understand that the COLD war was based on false premis.  IT was America that was against Russia and America just insisted that others also join in their hatred of anything Socialist. The one thing I have notoced is that nearly every one I met in Ukraine said that KLife was better under communism...  Sure their were many aspects that you and I would not support...  If you think they are still your enemy and you wish to go to war then God help us...  I think we can learn much from each other.  As to the prefered Political model I think the trurth lies somewhere in between  (Europe is far more advance in this respect then the USA, Britan or Australia).  Hell this is the region that produced the AMAZON...  have survived Russia dominate rule and continues to survive the curremt economic demise..  They certaintly do deserve better..  the Transition has not been managed well ... and they are a wake up to it...they know what is happening they are not stupid.  They may not have the same opportunities the US and the West have but then like any minority we keep them repressed...  Look closer to home and you will see more dispare then in Russia and Ukraine.  I think they rae strong, well eductaed and have good social values.  Some are misguided by the false image of life in the US/West but hey this is not Hollywood and you as a loving husband owe it to your wife to help her in her development, her health and happyness...  I have spent way too much time and words on you....  

[DE]

... in response to Here is my story, I'm not a Troll, posted by No more RW on Nov 24, 2001

I'm greatful that you brought another one over.  Don't get to irrational here by trying to send her back home.  Let her hang out here long enough for the green card (at least your getting your meals cooked for you even though she's not the ideal slave you were looking for).  Remember, that's one more women to the ratio of men in the US.  Now, if you can't deal with that, don't worry.  I live on the west coast and quite frankly, will be glad to give her a place to stay just for cooking my meals.  I'll hook her up with an INS lawyer that will get take care of her INS problems while you file for divorce and start planning your next trip over.  I won't expect anything else in return from her.  She'll eventually find some guy that will treat her with respect, more mature and not expect a slave, that will in turn free up an AW for some other guy and who knows, maybe eventually, it'll free up a slave for you.  But it really doesn't matter, because by your post, I doubt any of them will ever be happy with you!  But that's Okay as long as you understand it.  You have the advantage of knowing that it won't last long and can therefore use it to your advantage.  Just go back over and after a one week meeting, bring back another for the next year of cooking your dinners!  I think most AM will support you in your efforts to bring over as many as you possibly can before the INS shuts you down (hey, you might even get lucky and find a slave in the process).  So, enjoy the time you have with her before she leaves you, start preparations for your next trip and enjoy life.  Your AM brothers appreciate your efforts in improving the male/female ratio.  Remember, their is always a silver lining to a dark cloud!

[No more RW]

... in response to Re: Here is my story, I'm not a Troll, posted by DE on Nov 24, 2001

Hi DE,

Your not interested in more RW here in the USA, are you? No, I think not, you wish there were more men in the USA huh? I know your type, sorry, I can't help you, I only like women. Perhaps someone else could be of service to you? Keep trying, there is someone for everyone.

I'm told the West Coast is filled with guys like you, so don't despair, you will find your dream man.