Friends and lovers

[Pete E]

I was remembering a line from the old Eagles song,Take it Easy,
"running down the road trying to loosen my load I got 7 women on my mind.4 that want to own me,2 that want to stone me,one says she's a  friend of mine."
Angela,my girl from last night,no longer to be reffered to as number 2,is the friend of mine,plus super sex.The best I have EVER had.She gets mad at me when I say how good the sex is,she says its not just sex.She says things like
"unconditional",as in unconditional love.I was thanking her for her understanding and putting up with me seeing my other girl more.She said its"compensatory" or something like that it spanish.I guess its worth it too her.
My other girl,Beatriz the nurse is a wants to own me situation.But she knows about Angela.She just hopes it will change.She is just very comfortable,very supportive,helpfull,easy to get along with,loves me to death.Seems to really need me.No kids.Doesn't want any.Kind of fits better in my life but Angela has her place too.
And she is hot for sex also,its just not the same level of passion for me as Angela.
I am not complaining,just think one girl I could commit to would be better perhaps?

Pete

[Throw]

... in response to Friends and lovers, posted by Pete E on May 3, 2005

The only thing that is going to slow down these hot real estate markets will be some sort of a terrorist attack or similar event.  In south florida the market is built in with a consistantly flow of people arriving and wanting to live here.  There is a shortage of land because you are locked in on all sides, ocean, everglades etc.  And you not only have south americans putting their money in real estate but europeans as well, especially with the exchange rate on the dollar compared to the euro.  Expect the market to continue to climb for the next 2-3 years with maybe the condo market slowing down just because of the abundance of product. But medium home sales($250k-$400k) will not stop.  There is no reason for it to stop.  People need a place to live and they want to be in south florida...

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Throw on May 3, 2005

I think you meant to post under the real estate tread.
I agree Florida is a special case.Most of the US is overheated right now because of low interest rates.California is just way overpriced and not growing like Florida.Florida is growing for a number of reasons and it probably makes it the best bet in the US except where prices have got ahead of themselves even for there.
What about west Florida,Fort Myers ect?Seems less expensive  than south Florida and maybe as actractive to retires if not Hispanics?

Pete

[Stezo71]

... in response to Friends and lovers, posted by Pete E on May 3, 2005

Any almost mishaps? ie them almost running into each other or you accidentaly calling one the others name etc..?

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Stezo71 on May 3, 2005

I never lie to them.Angela knows Beatriz by name and asks about her,what we did,ect.Beatriz knows about Angela,I have mentioned her name but she never asks about her or us.
I have never confused names,but the other day I forgot to switch the tooth brushes.Beatriz wants to know where her tooth brush is,she is a little miffed.I tell her,you leave your underwear in the shower and I forgot to take it down the other day.Angela saw it,said nothing.Then she laughs  about it.She doesn't want to start a fight over it.In have told her how it is many times,even had letters translated telling her.
BUT,last night Beartiz's friend and co worker comes over to see a guy staying here Beatriz introduced her to.And Angela is headed over.I go down stairs to wait for Angela.Even though Beatriz knows about her I doubt she tells her co workers,who she brags me up to.I am kind of a celebrity when we get together.So I don't want her co workers telling stories that would embarass her.
Angela was with her friends one night on Avenida Sexta and saw me with another girl.I didn't see her.They gave her  a bad time about it,but she stands her ground,is OK with it.A guy we know told a friend of hers I had a novia,so it gets back to her.I tell her he was just presuming.Its not Novia because for me  novia would be exclusive,even though Beatriz will refer to me as her novia with family and friends.I understand.Whats she going to call me?This has been going on for about 8 months with Angela,7 with Beatriz.I was meeting other girls late last year but haven't bothered to this year even though I think I should sometimes.They keep  me busy enough.
Who knows where its going.I think if I could just snap my fingers and make it Beatriz I would,she fits in so many ways and seems to love me so much.She gets up at 6 AM Sunday ,called in for emergency surgury.What a girl.I am sleeping,she is saving lives.Sometimes I think I should try her exclusevely,and I probably would but I don't want to give up Angela.Angela I never picture long term,its more of an immediate thing.
AND,maybe as Margareth says the solution is a third one I can feel really commited to.
I lay in bed and wish my ex could have loved me like Beatriz.We could have had so much.But it was not to be.
Its was REAL STUPID getting MARRIED  to someone with out her  first demonstrating she loved me.And hanging together so long.One sided  love,kind  of like me with my girls now.
This side is more comfortable and easy.And whatever happens I hope they are better off for knowing me.I will try to make that the case as much as I can.

Pete

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Pete E on May 3, 2005

[This message has been edited by Cali James]

"I lay in bed and wish my ex could have loved me like Beatriz.We could have had so much.But it was not to be."

Pete, don't dream about the ex who never loved you but concentrate on the one you got now who does.  I feel like an a$hole for saying this but stop thinking about your ex, it's destructive!  If ever there was a person who treated you like #$%^ it was her.  You deserve better and IMO your only deluding yourself by thinking things would have been great if only she loved you.  Number one, the "if" is huge and number two, character was part of your equation for a successful relationship too.  

I'd personally like you to funnel some of that anger you have at the Catholic church onto your ex and be rid of these feelings you continue to have for her.  Anger isn't a particularly healthy thing granted but I think it's one of the first steps to moving on.

Anyway, I don't mean to offend you at all, I truly only want the best for my friend.

Take care, James

[latinadreaming]

... in response to Friends and lovers, posted by Cali James on May 3, 2005

One of the biggest lesson I learned from one of my Colombian friends is to how to let go of a relationship. My friend's girlfriend of two years (which he was in love with) dumped him and he was really in the the dumps.....for about an hour.  He got out of his chair and said to me let go and get another one  which he did the next day. They are still together after two years.

I thought to myself how different the cultures.  Most americans would cry in there beer for at least a week or more. Hard for us to let it go, but those in ladyland let it go     quick! Pete you are in rome and you should be like the romans!!     I hope you can let that past wife go.  You need to find one in Cali that really pops your cork.  Maybe you haven't found it yet, but I would not mind being in your shoes in Cali and I am  sure it won't be too long before you find that one.

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Friends and lovers, posted by latinadreaming on May 4, 2005

Damm, you are SOOOOOOOOO right. For the most part they are able to live in the "now". My wife's father was killed when she was a teenager and her husband died suddenly leaving her with three children. You'd think she'd be depressed and down - nope, not her. She's the happiest person I know because she just lets things go and moves on. I agree with you that when he finds the one that does it for him there won't be any doubts or questions.

[Pete E]

... in response to Friends and lovers, posted by Cali James on May 3, 2005

James,
Yes you are right.But I am the one still a little obsessed I guess.I really loved her and still do in away.
I have to laugh about your comment about the church.I guess there is no affection there just anger,a little different.But point taken.And I know I go off the deep end on the church.I guess I focus all my previously unexpressed anger on them? I know its one sided ,out of balence,unfair,but I still do it.So thanks for not writting me off over that.

Pete

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Pete E on May 3, 2005

"So thanks for not writting me off over that."

Pete, I'd never write you off over a difference of opinion regarding religion.  It's no big deal.  Anyway, I'll have to call you one of these days to catch up.  My wife will be travelling to Colombia this summer, she mentioned she wants to visit you and felt bad about not connecting last year.  Take care....

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Cali James on May 3, 2005

James,
Looks like I will be heading to the US on 7-1.In the bay area maybe 7-10? I will be coming back to Cali early August.
I keep thinking of calling you times I think you might be working.I guess I should just try it.

Pete

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Pete E on May 3, 2005

James,
Jesse is staying with me right now,he is doing real estate loans from Cali,got his vonage phone and computer working just like he was in the states.He is thinking 3 months minimum but it could be longer depending on what happens from here.
We were talking about all this tonight,including Sylvia,who was responsible for hooking up Rocio and Adriana with her womens network or we wouldn't know each other.Jesse and me that is.Even though I first met you through Adriana because of our interest here and living so close I know we would have got together anyway.
Funny how life works. I hope Sylvia is well but fear she might not be.Last we heard she went back to Argentina because of the free medical care she could get there after  her stroke,effectively separating her from her husband she loved so much.Juliana who married Roger used to keep us informed but we haven't heard anything about Sylvia for a long time.
One other little,or not so little to the persons involved Sylvia story.Rocio had a friend in Cali with a young baby whose boyfriend had abandoned her.She wanted no more to do with Colombianos and when Rocio found a gringo,me,she asked her to please help find her a husband.I remember seeing her E mail,please help me.Sylvia had a web site that she put the girls information on. A guy from Oklahoma who speaks spanish saw it,came to Cali,met her and they got married.They seemed real happy the last I heard,had another baby themselves.I even had a role in that.If I never got my butt on a plane for Colombia,This girl would have never met her husband.
I remember the scene from "Its a wonderfull life " where Jimmy Stewart wishes he was never born.His guardian angel Clarence grants his wish,then lets him see what life would  have beem like without him.The whole town is different.The old miser Stewart kept from taking over everthing is in charge,the town and all the residents are much worse off.But the scene  I remember is him standing in the graveyard,looking at the tombstone of his brother he had saved from drowing.He is telling Clarence he didn't die,he saved hundreds of men who's ship was about to be sunk by the enemy  and he recieved the congressional nmedal of honor.Clarence tells him "every man on that ship died.He wasn't there to save them because you were not here to save him.Funny how our lives are intertwined."
James you are a good friend and one of the best people I know.We should talk more.

Pete

[Cali James]

... in response to Also - - , posted by Pete E on May 4, 2005

I like that movie too!  It's interesting how our lives interact with others for both the good and the bad ( hopefully more good).  There's another movie that reminds me about how our lives can take very different paths, it's called "Sliding Door" with Gwenyth Paltrow.  I sometimes think how my life might have been different had I done this and not that.  Certainly my trips to Colombia were a real life changer but for the positive I think.  And we impact others as you suggested, I introduced one of the regular posters here to his wife.  They'd most likely be married to other people but for a simple introduction.  

So Jesse is with you, incredible!!  He probably doesn't need to work at all after his killing from the other year. lol But that's great, Jesse is in Cali.....would have never thought it.  Say hello for me.

Yea Pete you've been a good friend too and you're right we should talk more.  I'll give you a call soon....take care

[Lifeisgreat]

... in response to Re: Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Pete E on May 3, 2005

Hi Pete...I am just curious...do these ladies have other boyfriends? Would they tell you? Do you care... Just curious that is all...

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Friends and lovers, posted by Lifeisgreat on May 3, 2005

Too many cuba libres.Where is my answer?Well here it is again.Steve on WLC asked the same.
Well I have had my eyes opened by Calenas in the past,but no,I really don't think so,even though it would be fair play.
Beatriz did ask to use my computer to check her E mail.Then she minimized it instead of shutting it down.She has some guys mailing her from some address site.I was surprised,then thought good for her.She is keeping her options open.If someone came to town she night even see them,But I KNOW I am numero uno with her and she would be totally loyal to me if we were commited.Actually I think she is,I am not.
Angela I think would be open to another opportunity,but I don't think its there.Both girls are just not finding any opportunities like me.Its not a money thing,I give them little besides dinners and cab fare,but is I think a status thing,like landing a well to do Colombiano.Plus they both say I am much better than the other guys they had.I am sure either one could find a Colombiano to screw around with if she wanted.Angela has been divorced 10 years or so.She is 30.Her ex has custody of her son but she spends most days with him.She said she was so deppressed after her ex got custody,his family had money so they won, she got in to hard drugs for awhile.She had a Colombian Novia untill about a year before I met her,but he was screwing around on her.I DONT consider thats what I am doing because I tell the truth about it.She works as a security guard when she can get a job,has great supportive parents she lives with.She wasn't trying to meet a gringo,a friend kind of drug her over here.
Beatriz is 38,lived with a doctor for 10 years,then he dropped her for another woman.It was very hard on her even though the relationship was not good.She says I am so much more carinoso.She had one other guy in the past.She says I am number 3 in her life and I belive her.Not your typical Calena.
I would be VERY surprised Stevo,I don't think so now,but it could develop.

Pete