Medellin or Cali...??

[Hector_Lavoe]

I already have a ticket booked for Jan to go to Medellin. The issue is I am more attracted to the Calena look (darker skin, etc.).

I already booked a flight for Medellin because I like the city better than Cali and I've been chatting with this girl from Medellin who very much wants to meet me.

I am not a big fan of online dating or making a trip for one woman (although some guys on PL have hit the jackpot that way).

Of course, I'll have a Plan B and Plan C. But I am not impressed with what I see on Tinder for BOTH Medellin and Cali...just miserable. Cupid is only marginally better.

This lady from Medellin appears to have plenty going for her: educated, attractive, good family, intelligent, etc. Of course, you NEVER know about chemistry until you meet...

She is definitely not ugly. See link below (to be deleted soon).



http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n544/basketcase2/Photo07.jpg

The catch for me is I go more for a darker look (and slightly more curves) than this lady.  I just don't know how I will react in person...

In my brief visit to Medellin I did see more diversity in skin tone than I expected. But in Cali I am like a kid in at Disneyland...just love the overall look.

I know it sounds juvenile to be so focused on a particular physical type but I have been attracted to dark, petite brunettes for 20 plus years.

My new year's resolution: take JWR's advice and hit Tijuana more often (only a 2.5 hour drive for me). These "one-week" trips to South America are a blast but they are much more difficult to build a social circle which can net you a lot of solid prospects. 

 

[mudd]

sounds like cali or barranquilla is more of your  type, not medellin.  but if your going to enjoy the city, a vacation, or looking for  a girl? if a girl, then why waste time in a city that doesnt have what you want?

[Hector_Lavoe]

^^In a very long winded way, I was asking/saying: I was thinking I might just try meeting this woman and see if there is any chemistry in person.

If that blows up in my face, I would pursue other alternatives.

In your experience in Medellin: is there a decent number of women with darker features?

In my brief visit to Medellin last year I recall there was more variety than I thought there would be. Granted, lots more blondes and light skinned ladies than in Cali.

[robert angel]

I already have a ticket booked for Jan to go to Medellin. The issue is I am more attracted to the Calena look (darker skin, etc.).

I already booked a flight for Medellin because I like the city better than Cali and I've been chatting with this girl from Medellin who very much wants to meet me.

I am not a big fan of online dating or making a trip for one woman (although some guys on PL have hit the jackpot that way).

Of course, I'll have a Plan B and Plan C. But I am not impressed with what I see on Tinder for BOTH Medellin and Cali...just miserable. Cupid is only marginally better.

This lady from Medellin appears to have plenty going for her: educated, attractive, good family, intelligent, etc. Of course, you NEVER know about chemistry until you meet...

She is definitely not ugly. See link below (to be deleted soon).



http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n544/basketcase2/Photo07.jpg

The catch for me is I go more for a darker look (and slightly more curves) than this lady.  I just don't know how I will react in person...

In my brief visit to Medellin I did see more diversity in skin tone than I expected. But in Cali I am like a kid in at Disneyland...just love the overall look.

I know it sounds juvenile to be so focused on a particular physical type but I have been attracted to dark, petite brunettes for 20 plus years.

My new year's resolution: take JWR's advice and hit Tijuana more often (only a 2.5 hour drive for me). These "one-week" trips to South America are a blast but they are much more difficult to build a social circle which can net you a lot of solid prospects.

Comeon' Hector---A few burritos, some days at the beach and she'll be poifect!!

Funny, but the other day we were looking at pictures from our honeymoon and my wife was shocked at how much darker her skin was then. I like em lean, with some curves and tan as cookies. But where she comes from, if able to afford, they pay for skin lightening cosmetics and are (I think) overly conscious of skin tone.

She frets that the sun is unhealthy for the skin , but the white women she works with would give teeth to have her skin tone---her 'natural tan.'

So while I wouldn't mind her skin a couple shades darker,  I couldn't  find a better woman if I tried, so I'm just going to keep rolling with her!

[mambocowboy]

^^In a very long winded way, I was asking/saying: I was thinking I might just try meeting this woman and see if there is any chemistry in person.

If that blows up in my face, I would pursue other alternatives.

In your experience in Medellin: is there a decent number of women with darker features?

In my brief visit to Medellin last year I recall there was more variety than I thought there would be. Granted, lots more blondes and light skinned ladies than in Cali.

This is my first time in BAQ in 6 years. Havent been to Cali but imagine the women there would appear smoking hot to me. Got to BAQ airport today and had to wait a half hour for my in laws to pick us up. Had forgotten how attractive i find the women here. Saw at least three 9s and more hot women than I see in a month in San Diego, which isn't a bad locale lookswise...

[Dan Las Vegas]

Good luck Hector!  I much prefer the paisa’s and stand with UC on this!

[Hector_Lavoe]

^^ Appreciate all the replies.

I am partial to the look of ladies in Cali/BQ.

However, based on my one brief (4 day) trip to Medellin, the amount of attractive ladies I saw out in public beats anything I have seen anywhere in Colombia (i.e., Barranquilla, Cali, Cartagena and Medellin).

And the paisas are very physically very fit...reminds me a bit of Rio in that regard.   

[vikingo]

Many gringos go to Meddelín to find lighter skinned women as there has been a wave of immigrants from Europe to Meddelín in days gone by. If you like Morenas like I do, Cali or Barranquilla, even Cartagena is for you.
If you are brave and adventurous you could even go to Buenaventura or Tumaco, you would be in heaven, just don't carry anything with you you aren't prepared to part with. If you go to Barranquilla you are fairly safe in the North but stay out of Soledad which is South of the city and in Cali you are safest in the South and are taking your life in your hands in the huge barrio of Aguablanca in the East, even if if it may be tempting and some of the chicks look gorgous, don't go there.
Your first priority though should be to to find a goodhearted woman without a sordid past and lots of baggage.
Find a woman with a good and steady job that she might want to quit though if you are too generous with her. Most of these women are supporting family members, her aging mom who is without any social security, a younger sister or brother still in university, etc. These people with few exceptions have traditionally very tight knit families and everyone who can is helping out and the government knows it, therefore no polititian is losing any sleep over how the old and the sick manage to survive without any kind of pension or social security.
So money is always tight, somebody is always sick, needs surgery or got hurt in a motorcicle accident and you will be a welcome edition to the family. So in most situations you are doomed to help out and you might as well spend your money on a woman who deserves it, like I do and not on some greedy bitch with the body of a model who takes full advantage of her assets.
Don't be mislead by pictures of colombianas you see on social media, most of them are at least 5 years old and they gained a few pounds in the meantime.

[utopiacowboy]

If you have a type, you have a type, why fight it? The last time I was in Colombia two years ago, I spent a lot of time on the coast - Monteria, Cartagena, Barranquilla, Santa Marta - and although I saw a lot of attractive women, for the most part the curvy dark women just don't do it for me. 


I really like the skinny paisas with their pale skin and jet black hair. I kept wishing I was back sitting on one of the benches in Parque Belen. I am sure you will find some of your type in Medellin but it will be nothing like the feast you would have enjoyed on the coast. Or in Cali.

[buencamino3]

I think the type you are looking for is an "india". That is what girls are called who look like the the girl in my avatar. I think they are the ultimate beauty type in Colombia. They always have darker skin than the "paisa". They are stunningly beautiful and "hot" and the poorer barrios of Cali are full of them. You would have a hard time identifying my girl in a club in Menga because they all look like that. Then there are "mulattas". The term covers a broad range that can include "Indias" but for the most part are light skinned Blacks. Lastly and still included under "india" are the girls who I consider to have pronounced Amerindian features i.e. they could easily be extras in Mel Gibson's Apocalipto. Here are three photos that more or less typify each one. (Though not all the prettiest examples).


India





Mulatta





Amerindian





All from Cali.

And lastly for good measure a pretty costeña from Cartagena

[SkyNorth]

HectorL...that is a beautiful lady.  My 2 cents, like Rob says the USA (cheeseburgers) will add the curves, etc.   Good Luck

But I have never had a type - it has always been about personality brains compatibility.  Of course all of BC3's girls above look great as well.

[vikingo]

The great mayority in the cities are mixed with Indio, Spanish, Blacks and some Arabs. If you go to the Pacific Coast like Buenaventura and Tumaco you'll find mostly Blacks, a good number of them mixed with Indio. There is also a fairly large black community south of Cartagena in a town called San Basilia de Palenque, a settlement of escaped slaves from long ago who kept their culture, their meals and dances to this day. Many blacks mixed with Indios for hundreds of years as both races where poor and unfortunately with few exceptions they still are to this day. It is obvious that most Colombians have Spanish surnames, the reason being that most Colombians regardless of color have Spanish blood in their veines for the simple reason that Queen Isabella of Spain told the conquistadores to spread the Spanish Blood in the New World. And the conquistadores didn't need to be told twice. African slaves who were brought here much later and only had first names where allowed to take on the name of their former owner after their liberation.

[Hector_Lavoe]

I think the type you are looking for is an "india". That is what girls are called who look like the the girl in my avatar. I think they are the ultimate beauty type in Colombia.

Yep. If the gal in your avatar has a sister or cute cousin I'd certainly want to meet her. Jajajaja

But seriously I pretty much love the skin tone of all the ladies you posted and all things being equal I will almost ALWAYS go for a girl with any of those skin tones as compared to a woman with lighter skin like your typical Paisa, etc.

They are stunningly beautiful and "hot" and the poorer barrios of Cali are full of them. You would have a hard time identifying my girl in a club in Menga because they all look like that.

I think I could easily spot your girl at a club in Menga. She is easily in the top 10 or 20 percent in terms of physical attributes be it in Cali or just about anywhere else. Though certainly that general type of girl is all over Cali (skin tone, etc.) and for a guy like me that is like being a kid in a candy store.

During my one and only trip to Cali I wound up at a club in Menga one night. But I was pretty lit up (booze only) and I was with a girl I met during the day at a sidewalk cafe. So I really don't recall the scenery in Menga very well.

Here is a question for B.C. or anyone who might know a thing or two about Cali:

-What do you think if a gringo just showed up solo (and mostly sober) to a club in Menga and made an attempt to meet women that way? or perhaps he brings a wingman he met during his travels...

-Let's assume the guy speaks Spanish ok...is he doomed to failure given the "group nature" of Cali nightlife? or do you think a guy might be able to pull a rabbit out of a hat?  And by pulling a "rabbit out of a hat" I simply mean getting a phone number with a decent shot of sincere follow up?

[Hector_Lavoe]

HectorL...that is a beautiful lady.  My 2 cents, like Rob says the USA (cheeseburgers) will add the curves, etc.   Good Luck

But I have never had a type - it has always been about personality brains compatibility.  Of course all of BC3's girls above look great as well.

Thanks for the input. In reference to the bold: very wise words/attitude.

But when it comes to dark brunettes....I am like a bee on honey. 

[mudd]

But when it comes to dark brunettes....I am like a bee on honey.

then cali,barranquilla and cartagena is the place for you lol. more in these cities  than in medellin, bogota, pereria ect.

[Calipro]

Thanks for the input. In reference to the bold: very wise words/attitude.

But when it comes to dark brunettes....I am like a bee on honey.

You can find anything you want in Medellin or any large city in Colombia.


But Medellin has the added benefit of having women that appreciate someone that is direct in their approach and says what they want.


So you can save a lot of time in Medellin if you just let women know exactly what you have on your mind. The same approach will help you in any Colombian city but Paisas are just more pragmatic in their responses.

[buencamino3]

Hector I can't offer advice on the clubbing thing as I'm not into that. Maybe others here can advise. I will say I've met a lot of girls over the years via the cupid sites including the one in my avatar. Of course there's a lot of chaff to sift through.

[Hector_Lavoe]

^^Understood, no worries.

[Hector_Lavoe]

You can find anything you want in Medellin or any large city in Colombia.

I did notice more variety in Medellin than I expected but some cities are plastered wall to wall with ladies with darker features (like Cali, BQ, etc.).

From the perspective of a guy just dropping in for a week and trying to attract a lady for a serious relationship...do you think either city has an advantage over the other (Medellin or Cali) or are they about the same..?

Other than what you stated about the directness of the Paisa women....

 

[benjio]

The same approach will help you in any Colombian city but Paisas are just more pragmatic in their responses.

This is VERY true. Even outside of Medellin when I meet Colombianos anywhere in the world I can tell if they are Paisas after a few minutes of conversation. Even if they don't have a strong Paisa accent. It's just the way they act and their general outlook on the world. This is even more evident in the business realm from my experience. Most of them simply don't concern themselves with how something they say is going to make you feel....as supposed to most other places in Colombia where someone would rather lie to you than give you bad news.

[robert angel]

HectorL...that is a beautiful lady.  My 2 cents, like Rob says the USA (cheeseburgers) will add the curves, etc.   Good Luck

But I have never had a type - it has always been about personality brains compatibility.  Of course all of BC3's girls above look great as well.

Yeah SkyNorth,

Twelve years in the USA with cheese burgers, other US dietary mainstays, even combined with some exercise, WILL add some 'curves'. Fortunately, I've still been able to drop a few pounds. Then again, my wife has gained a few---just a few, but they've added some curves to her.

Overall she cooks really healthy for us, makes sure our skin's well care for, and you won't see a speck of make up, mascara, not even lip gloss in any of these pictures. Nada. Not her style. Exercises a lot though, yoga etc. Even gets me  to go to yoga sometimes--usually I'm the only straight male there!  In the January 2006 sunset shot that I copied from our belated honeymoon -- reshot from a print using a cellphone here,  when I dug that out and showed her, she was shocked at how dark her skin was, LOL.

The other shots range from a couple weeks old to yesterday. But the few pounds she's put on over the last 12 years have gone to the right places, I think.

She avoids the sun like the plague. Refuses to age, tries to keep me healthy, smiling, tries to prevent me from aging too fast, has upped my sense of fashion a 100% too---that tacky fishing shirt and way too long 'bermuda' shorts in the honeymoon shot---they mysteriously disappeared a while later.....

She's ALL about me retiring from the rat race this year. And while we're far from rich,  I'm gonna. Probably take a looong break, then do something else. Only thing she asks is: "Honey, please go to the gym three times a week"

But like a lot of guys here, dark brunettes set me afire. Regarding my wife, for FOUR years, I kept telling myself "TOO young, TOO well educated, (two 5 year degrees, one in computer hardware, the other software engineering--all credits accepted here) and TOO darn pretty"---but I finally relented and married her. Great, quick to forgive personality,  brains and common sense. Kind. Not materialistic. To think, it could be 16 years instead of twelve and as she approaches age 40, she's still ALL those things....

While I have a weakness for brown eyed blondes with brown eyes and tans, overall for slender babes with nice curves that defy gravity---a morena brunette like my wife still wins overall. I know I could've done worse, but I can't imagine this ole dog doing better any how, not here and now.

[Calipro]

From the perspective of a guy just dropping in for a week and trying to attract a lady for a serious relationship...do you think either city has an advantage over the other (Medellin or Cali) or are they about the same..?

Other than what you stated about the directness of the Paisa women....

A week is a short time to attract a lady for serious relationship. But, I don't necessarily think one city really has that much of an advantage over the other if you are looking for a serious relationship.


But with such a short trip I think you might have more fun in Cali than Medellin....just because from my experience Calenas are more inclined to sleep with you sooner than the average Paisa. I think Calenas tend to use sex to build interest in a relationship more than Paisas when you first start dating....assuming they are interested in a serious relationship with you.

[SkyNorth]

Robert...great photos and a lovely lady.  I am glad she is keeping your diet in check.  You tell her I said "she is the one punching above her weight class" --- You a sexy man, buddy.  LOL   

[Elexpatriado]

Tell her to go to a tannng salon

[Elexpatriado]

Most important test for women..see if they can suck a ping pong ball through a garden hose..