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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2016, 10:50:27 PM »

even though vallenato seems to be the most popular music in Colombia

That's quite the unique perspective ;-)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if you polled 10 Colombians from any city in Colombia, excluding a 25 mile radius of Valledupar, that they would not say that Vallenato is the "go to music" of Colombia.

Yes, girls do like Vallenato, but the majority of Colombians (guys and girls) I don't think would say that Vallenato is the main music in Colombia... not with salsa being played everywhere.  If you polled the guys on this board, I don't think they would say that either.

I guess all the clubs are just overflowing with Vallenato and not reggaeton or salsa (or even techno)?  That would be very interesting if all the clubs were bursting at the seams with Vallenato.

Maybe I'm just way off base here.  If I'm wrong... it wouldn't be the first time ;-)

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2016, 06:41:40 AM »
That's quite the unique perspective ;-)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if you polled 10 Colombians from any city in Colombia, excluding a 25 mile radius of Valledupar, that they would not say that Vallenato is the "go to music" of Colombia.

Yes, girls do like Vallenato, but the majority of Colombians (guys and girls) I don't think would say that Vallenato is the main music in Colombia... not with salsa being played everywhere.  If you polled the guys on this board, I don't think they would say that either.

I guess all the clubs are just overflowing with Vallenato and not reggaeton or salsa (or even techno)?  That would be very interesting if all the clubs were bursting at the seams with Vallenato.

Maybe I'm just way off base here.  If I'm wrong... it wouldn't be the first time ;-)

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2016, 10:03:55 AM »

In Manizales many like heavy metal and punk rock..LOL


I'd say that's the case in most of the bigger cities in the interior of the country. I don't think a Vallenato concert would consistently sell out a soccer stadium in a city like Bogota while bands like Metallica and AC/DC do it every time they perform.

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Re: Salsa Dance
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2016, 10:45:43 AM »

I'd say that's the case in most of the bigger cities in the interior of the country. I don't think a Vallenato concert would consistently sell out a soccer stadium in a city like Bogota while bands like Metallica and AC/DC do it every time they perform.


In most nations in Asia, there's a significant population that loves hard core heavy,  'death' metal rock, and some big rock bands, as well as a lot more soft pop music stars, enjoy more popularity and sell out more shows there than in the USA. The headbanger metal heads dress for the part too.
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2016, 02:59:58 PM »
I would say that in Cali electronica very popular amongst those who use "re" as an adjective.
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2016, 05:13:23 PM »
Long live salsa! As for vallenato, I don't care for it...


You probably don't care for aguardiente either.  Like I said vallenato and aguardiente two things that are only Colombians/Venezuelans like.


The girls I was hanging out with last night in Cucuta at the reggaeton concert are from Valencia Venezuela and I noticed they really liked and danced the reggaeton music, then they really liked and enjoyed dancing salsa when that came on also, but they react differently to vallenato music.  They sing all the words to the song LOUDLY, and they make these emotional faces and look like they're about to cry.  I don't see people getting into and really feeling the music like they do with vallenato in Colombia.


Another thing that seems to be popular in Colombia is ranchera music, and to me it sounds just like rancera music from Mexico.  The concert I went to was headlined by Nejo who sings reggaeton, but the band that played after him was a ranchera band, and when I heard the music I felt like I was in Mexico.  I told the girl I was with that Mexicans have to do the "grito" when ranchera music comes on and I started the high pitched "WAAAJAAJAAAYY" and she got embarrassed and put her hand over my mouth.  Then we danced Mexican style to the ranchera music, only for a few seconds because that's not really my thing, it was fun though.  But yea ranchera music is also popular in Colombia.


But yea I prefer salsa to pretty much any type of music especially for dancing, that's one of the main reasons I'm trying to get to Caracas.  Caracas seems to be a big time salsa city, probably equal to Cali Colombia, or maybe even moreso.

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2016, 07:12:19 AM »
I would say that in Cali electronica very popular amongst those who use "re" as an adjective.


I remember obnce I went to an "electronica" concert in Lago Calima years ago.


Full of addicts popping pills


Actually its popular everywhere. They play it in the gym here- Bodytech. I hate that Sh1t..same bom boom boom over and over


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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2016, 09:37:29 AM »
That's quite the unique perspective ;-)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if you polled 10 Colombians from any city in Colombia, excluding a 25 mile radius of Valledupar, that they would not say that Vallenato is the "go to music" of Colombia.

Yes, girls do like Vallenato, but the majority of Colombians (guys and girls) I don't think would say that Vallenato is the main music in Colombia... not with salsa being played everywhere.  If you polled the guys on this board, I don't think they would say that either.

I guess all the clubs are just overflowing with Vallenato and not reggaeton or salsa (or even techno)?  That would be very interesting if all the clubs were bursting at the seams with Vallenato.

Maybe I'm just way off base here.  If I'm wrong... it wouldn't be the first time ;-)




Oh yea a "unique perspective"?  I guess after all the time I've spent in Colombia and where I'm currently at I'm just crazy thinking that Vallenato is the music I most commonly hear when I'm out and about.


I guess this website http://off2colombia.com/destination-colombia/colombian-culture/colombian-music-dance is off base too when they state that "The most popular Colombian music is called [/size]Vallenato[/color][/size]. Rafael Escalona, Carlos Vives, Alejo Duran, Jaime Molina, they are all artists of this type of music."[/color]
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[/size]I guess this website http://colombiareports.com/10-genres-music-improved-upon-colombia/ doesn't know what it's talking about either when it says that "[/color][/size]Perhaps the most famous genre in Colombia, old vallenatos typically tell a story or legend, while modern vallenato songs typically deal with the loss/gain/love of a woman."[/color]
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[/size]And I wouldn't put any stock in what a poll of pl posters would tell you.  The ones who very briefly traveled to Colombia to find a wife in the quickest time frame possible would have no clue, and the old farts like bc and expat don't get out enough to have any perspective on the conversation.[/color]

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2016, 10:01:01 AM »



Oh yea a "unique perspective"?  I guess after all the time I've spent in Colombia and where I'm currently at I'm just crazy thinking that Vallenato is the music I most commonly hear when I'm out and about.


I guess this website http://off2colombia.com/destination-colombia/colombian-culture/colombian-music-dance is off base too when they state that "The most popular Colombian music is called Vallenato. Rafael Escalona, Carlos Vives, Alejo Duran, Jaime Molina, they are all artists of this type of music."

I guess this website http://colombiareports.com/10-genres-music-improved-upon-colombia/ doesn't know what it's talking about either when it says that "Perhaps the most famous genre in Colombia, old vallenatos typically tell a story or legend, while modern vallenato songs typically deal with the loss/gain/love of a woman."


And I wouldn't put any stock in what a poll of pl posters would tell you.  The ones who very briefly traveled to Colombia to find a wife in the quickest time frame possible would have no clue, and the old farts like bc and expat don't get out enough to have any perspective on the conversation.


I dont go out every weekend (because I dont want to wreck my health), but I have been travelling to Colombia long enough to know what they listen to in the clubs..in the non straight Salsa clubs, its a mix of everything-Salsa, Merengue , Vallenato, Cumbia , ranchera, Regaton, electronic, romantica, bachata, etc.

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2016, 10:25:25 AM »

I dont go out every weekend (because I dont want to wreck my health), but I have been travelling to Colombia long enough to know what they listen to in the clubs..in the non straight Salsa clubs, its a mix of everything-Salsa, Merengue , Vallenato, Cumbia , ranchera, Regaton, electronic, romantica, bachata, etc.


The debate isn't "what's played in the clubs".  The debate is whether salsa or vallenato is the most popular genre of music in Colombia.


Jv tells me that my perspective is "unique" as if I'm the only person who thinks vallenato is more popular in Colombia than salsa, but I googled "most popular music in Colombia" and I found two highly regarded websites stating that vallenato is the most popular music in Colombia while I'm unable to find one source stating that salsa is the most popular music in Colombia.


So jv, do you still say that my perspective is unique?  Based on google search is seems that your perspective is the one that is unique.


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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2016, 12:27:29 PM »
According to this article about cumbia, the most popular genre in Colombia itself is vallenato:


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Aunque paradójicamente no sea el ritmo más popular en su país (el vallenato es probablemente la música más escuchada), Colombia no solo es el responsable de la creación de la cumbia, sino el lugar de donde han salido alguno de sus cultores más maravillosos.


But, like I said before, the most popular Colombian music (or at least originally invented in Colombia) in the rest of South-America (and many other countries of Latin America) is cumbia:



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Hay una música que ha hecho mucho más por la unidad latinoamericana que cientos de discursos. Un ritmo que hermana a colombianos con venezolanos, a bolivianos y peruanos con chilenos, a uruguayos con argentinos.Aunque generalmente ignorada por los intelectuales, la cumbia ha sido la música más popular en casi todos los países del continente de habla castellana desde hace más de medio siglo. En todos los lugares donde llegó se fue mezclando con ritmos e idiosincrasias locales sin perder su clásica cadencia ni su espíritu bailable.
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2016, 01:15:05 PM »
My wife listens to that old time vallenato crap. It's awful. It makes my ears bleed listening to it.

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2016, 03:59:55 PM »
My theme song is "Pa' monte a caballo" but I also like the one with te refrain "tumbela"which in which he celebrates bringing his house down, literally collapsing it with deafening noise...
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Re: Salsa Dance
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2016, 04:08:05 PM »
Where are you at jv?  Do you still say my perspective is unique?  Or are you going to be a man and admit Big Daddy Awesome was right all along?

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2016, 08:20:04 PM »
Where are you at jv?  Do you still say my perspective is unique?  Or are you going to be a man and admit Big Daddy Awesome was right all along?

'Big daddy awesome'?? LOL, if only you could visualize all the pieces of popcorn and empty beer cans that'd be flying at you if you tried to run such a farcial game on the guys here in real life.

Why don't you try and imagine a wee bit harder on actually bringing a real woman into the picture?

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2016, 08:22:29 PM »
My wife listens to that old time vallenato crap. It's awful. It makes my ears bleed listening to it.


Lolz but it for sure brings her back memories. for sure she gets nostalgic, embrace yourself christmas time gets me to sometimes make my EGY husband's ears bleed and I'm no vallenato lover.  ;)
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2016, 08:58:58 PM »
'Big daddy awesome'?? LOL, if only you could visualize all the pieces of popcorn and empty beer cans that'd be flying at you if you tried to run such a farcial game on the guys here in real life.

Why don't you try and imagine a wee bit harder on actually bringing a real woman into the picture?

 -Now that'd be something of a start.... ::)


The topic of this thread isn't a "real woman".  The topic of this thread and more specifically the debate between jv and I was which genre of music is more popular in Colombia.  You are capable of comprehending the English language and following a discussion right ra?


Jv tried to take me to task and have a debate with me and I won the debate, hands down.  Now he's disappeared all of a sudden like a puppy dog hiding with his tail between his legs.  Jv where are you?  I know you're out there somewhere.  Come back and play with Daddy Awesome,  I got a doggy biscuit for you.


And the most hilarious part of all this is that jv actually had the nerve to say "If you polled the guys on this board, I don't think they would say that either."  As if the collective braintrust of pl posters CARRIES ANY VALUE AT ALL.  Jaaajajajaa!!  That's truly funny!

This jv guy's sense of logic is seriously lacking.

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2016, 09:40:18 PM »
My theme song is "Pa' monte a caballo" but I also like the one with te refrain "tumbela"which in which he celebrates bringing his house down, literally collapsing it with deafening noise...


Did you mean :  "A caballo Vamos pal' Monte" and "Tumbatecho"? If so, yeah those are great ones too.
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2016, 08:01:33 PM »

Did you mean :  "A caballo Vamos pal' Monte" and "Tumbatecho"? If so, yeah those are great ones too.


Yes
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2016, 10:07:22 PM »

Did you mean :  "A caballo Vamos pal' Monte" and "Tumbatecho"? If so, yeah those are great ones too.

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2016, 10:23:49 PM »
...Big Daddy Awesome...

LOL  ::)

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2016, 03:59:11 AM »
LOL  ::)

To steal a quote from another regular poster here, "Shirley, you're not serious..."

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Lmao!

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #72 on: December 23, 2016, 10:58:17 AM »
LOL  ::)

To steal a quote from another regular poster here, "Shirley, you're not serious..."

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But at least now you know you were wrong and Awesome was right.  Next time think a little bit more before you post some dumb sh*t.

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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2016, 11:05:40 AM »
It's dangerous to start speaking of yourself in the third person...you could become disembodied.
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Re: Salsa Dance
« Reply #74 on: December 25, 2016, 11:40:38 AM »
It's dangerous to start speaking of yourself in the third person...you could become disembodied.

How could Awesome possibly become disembodied?

Is this your clever way of suggesting that Awesome is a fictional character, making up stories about travels to far away places?

 

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