David Wygant Against Foreign Women

[creeper1]

David Wygant the dating coach has very recently advised against dating foreign women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGh7paV47w&list=UUbor7F226YsxmYfhj76L2UQ

He seems to point out that language barriers make real communication difficult.

He also thinks guys that do that have no "game"

I do not agree with his point of view. However I thought I would share his speech.

[SkyNorth]

This guy is pretty lame to start with these two vids show him contradicting himself.   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJHc4JYdLA&list=UUbor7F226YsxmYfhj76L2UQ  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I5QD4yPwIo    He claims not to be a Pick Up Artist (his term is PUA) but in other places vids etc. he labels them as How and where to Pick Up girls.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8YciL8CmLg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6oKawbAgxU  I wouldn't put much weight in this little girls opinions, she/he is really into fashion....LOL.

[kai #2]

David Wygant the dating coach has very recently advised against dating foreign women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGh7paV47w&list=UUbor7F226YsxmYfhj76L2UQ

He seems to point out that language barriers make real communication difficult.

He also thinks guys that do that have no "game"

I do not agree with his point of view. However I thought I would share his speech.

Who cares what this guy thinks. American women think the same thing. That we are going over sees to 'take advantage' of those 'poor' women. To each man their own woman. If he doesn't like to or have the means to, that's his problem. Those that can and do will keep doing so

[Maverick]

David Wygant the dating coach has very recently advised against dating foreign women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGh7paV47w&list=UUbor7F226YsxmYfhj76L2UQ

He seems to point out that language barriers make real communication difficult.

He also thinks guys that do that have no "game"

I do not agree with his point of view. However I thought I would share his speech.

First, this guy is definitely a PUA. I used to be pretty heavily involved in that whole thing and he came to speak at multiple events.


Second, he doesn't really say anything noteworthy here, just that it's easy to get laid abroad. He briefly mentioned mail order bride once and doesn't really go into it at all.


Third, he's trying to sell his own product. Apparently international dating is growing (otherwise he wouldn't even be talking about it) and he's basically making a sales pitch for guys to not do that and buy his product instead.

[piglett]

Who cares what this guy thinks. American women think the same thing. That we are going over sees to 'take advantage' of those 'poor' women. To each man their own woman. If he doesn't like to or have the means to, that's his problem. Those that can and do will keep doing so

those with the b@lls will get on a plane & find out for themselves what it's all about


if i was back to being single rite this second i would be looking to book a flight ASAP


once you go Asian you don't go back to low quality local chicks.

[robert angel]

those with the b@lls will get on a plane & find out for themselves what it's all about


if i was back to being single rite this second i would be looking to book a flight ASAP


once you go Asian you don't go back to low quality local chicks.

If you're worried about what other people think about who or where you choose to find your wife, your going in the wrong direction and searching overseas isn't for you.

Sure, your family and maybe a closest friend or two should be able to state their opinion and you at should least listen to their opinion out of respect. If nothing else, that helps maintain relations to some extent, but even then, they're not the folks who'll be living with her.

Some times in this line of pursuit, you need to drastically discount what others say or think, adopt a 'You and me against the world' mentality with your chosen one and even, dare say, a 'F___ em all' attitude to the peanut gallery naysayers in general.

Fortunately my family, as well as friends who really mattered  were cool about it all. They liked her from the start and their feelings have only gotten stronger for what a fine person she is. Maybe they know she's the one who reminds me to call them, to visit more and remembers when everybody's birthday is!

As for the 'rest of them'--people we work with, the public in general--if they have things to say about us being together, (and they probably do) they say them out of earshot, not that we really care....

[bcc_1_2]

He seems to point out that language barriers make real communication difficult.

He also thinks guys that do that have no "game"

He's right about the language barrier. That is a real issue. So you've got to give him props on what he is correct about. He's also right that struggling men do get desperate and end up on sites like AFA or hooker bars.

But he's also not being honest with himself. You send this guy to some of these places overseas and he'd be hiding out in his hotel room. I see no reason to put international women down or international relationships down.

There is no question that if you got to look at the guys behind some of these computer screens that David has a point. But at the same time you can't fault a guy who just prefers a certain look or a certain culture.

If you are fat as hell or old as hell or bald as hell... or just old, bald, fat, and nasty as hell (got no game, etc) then maybe the p4p scene is the way to go. I mean it is better than nothing. Not all guys have the same options. So if your only options are nasty old hags or the p4p scene in Thailand.... then maybe you don't get on the guy's case for picking Thailand.

[robert angel]

As to issues with the language barrier, I respect the hell out of you guys who listen and help your wives with their English without going crazy. I am sure that there are many times that you have to ask her twice or more what she's saying.

My wife's language/dialect has a lot of Spanish influence--for instance, to this day, 'scissors' are sometimes pronounced 'Seeeezers' and a few other words are still challenging. We even go over, but not as much anymore--on written expression--tense usage, etc. While I help and sometimes we even practice using tongue twisters and targeting certain vowel and consonant areas, I tell myself how if I married a woman from Thailand, Vietnam or a lady in her late twenties or thirties from Latin America, I'd have a much harder time.

Of course, it's most difficult when you're trying to talk on the cell phone, eh?

[piglett]

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If you are fat as hell or old as hell or bald as hell... or just old, bald, fat, and nasty as hell (got no game, etc) then maybe the p4p scene is the way to go. I mean it is better than nothing. Not all guys have the same options. So if your only options are nasty old hags or the p4p scene in Thailand.... then maybe you don't get on the guy's case for picking Thailand.

you make a good point


looking 25-30 as i do 


i turn plenty of ladies head in the Philippines (i'm shocked that i am still allowed in the SM mall) 


but once I'm an old buck i don't think i would pull that off


i guess i could look for a 40 something year old widow


but if i havn't taken care of myself


what can i really expect to bring home???


i guess i would be one of the P4P guys in Thailand or angles city


those hookers do need to make a living


can't have them all unemployed   




pig

[kai #2]

If you're worried about what other people think about who or where you choose to find your wife, your going in the wrong direction and searching overseas isn't for you.

Sure, your family and maybe a closest friend or two should be able to state their opinion and you at should least listen to their opinion out of respect. If nothing else, that helps maintain relations to some extent, but even then, they're not the folks who'll be living with her.

Some times in it statery's of pursuit, you need to drastically discount what others say or think, adopt a 'You and me against the world' mentality with your chosen one and even, dare say, a 'F___ em all' attitude to the peanut gallery naysayers in general.

Fortunately my family, as well as friends who really mattered  were cool about it all. They liked her from the start and their feelings have only gotten stronger for what a fine person she is. Maybe they know she's the one who reminds me to call them, to visit more and remembers when everybody's birthday is!

As for the 'rest of them'--people we work with, the public in general--if they have things to say about us being together, (and they probably do) they say them out of earshot, not that we really care....

Maybe he's is right about the language barrier but I've been learning Spanish so I'm on the right path. So far I haven't caught any flack from friends about going overseas to meet women granted I'm not only going to meet women when I travel. You're support on though. I've met to many people that never left the state. Let the haters hate while the rest of enjoy our lives.

[piglett]

Maybe he's is right about the language barrier but I've been learning Spanish so I'm on the right path. So far I haven't caught any flack from friends about going overseas to meet women granted I'm not only going to meet women when I travel. You're support on though. I've met to many people that never left the state. Let the haters hate while the rest of enjoy our lives.

Ive had a couple of people at work that needed to be put in their place


i had a few words for them


guess what...... that is the last time the brought up that subject


good luck to them with the local or should i say loco females here in the states


 

[robert angel]

Sounds like you guys have it right. Kai#2--always liked your approach! You think outside the envelope that most of us place ourselves in and you're not afraid to take the path that's less traveled.

Not that Piglett was going places where there were Marriot and Hilton Hotels! I forgot to ask Piglett if some of his relatives over there fish occasionally using dynamite and hand grenades--it's not unheard of and produces a lot of fish! Did that fish finder you got them work out?

Most of us are so inclined to travel differently than most Kanos, but Kai, it seems in your travels to S.A., you're a bit bolder. Even before you started picking up more Spanish, you were checking places down there out that even some members here might not check out.

I think that it's a whole different ball game when you bring a Spanish--really any other language speaking woman to the USA and try communicating in English, compared to when you're trying to connect down there. Having traveled a good bit, it's amazing how no matter how wide the language barrier, if people are really trying to communicate between each other, knowing a few words of each other's language, using facial expressions and other body language, communication happens!

I think most people I've met overseas who signaled they 'Speak no English' were just blowing me off--actually I got the most of that in San Francisco's China Town--very insular people, especially the elders.

[robert angel]

  Let the haters hate while the rest of enjoy our lives.

Ain't that the truth!!! Who gives a flying f about them?  Too many people need something to feed their negativity--someone or something they feel they can look down on. Actually they're the wretched, insecure ones.

[piglett]

Not that Piglett was going places where there were Marriot and Hilton Hotels! I forgot to ask Piglett if some of his relatives over there fish occasionally using dynamite and hand grenades--it's not unheard of and produces a lot of fish! Did that fish finder you got them work out?

Most of us are so inclined to travel differently than most Kanos, but Kai, it seems in your travels to S.A., you're a bit bolder. Even before you started picking up more Spanish, you were checking places down there out that even some members here might not check out.

they don't use dynamite but some guys there so


some are missing fingers for their trouble


that fishfinder is kicking @ss


my F.I.L. now has 2 boats


he runs the larger one & one of his brothers rents the second one


the rent is 1/2 of the catch


so the family there is doing well

[robert angel]

they don't use dynamite but some guys there so


some are missing fingers for their trouble


that fishfinder is kicking @ss


my F.I.L. now has 2 boats


he runs the larger one & one of his brothers rents the second one


the rent is 1/2 of the catch


so the family there is doing well

Ha ha--sounds like this--I forget the quote or where it came from, but it goes along the lines of 'buy someone a fish and they'll expect you to buy fish forever--teach em to fish and they'll be independent and better off forever!'--

*****took 20 seconds to look up the quote--translated from Chinese, it's actually:--->"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

[piglett]

Ha ha--sounds like this--I forget the quote or where it came from, but it goes along the lines of 'buy someone a fish and they'll expect you to buy fish forever--teach em to fish and they'll be independent and better off forever!'--

*****took 20 seconds to look up the quote--translated from Chinese, it's actually:--->"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

correct i don't give out fish only fishfinders


get to work, go get your own if you want some

[Researcher]

This guy is talking about getting laid. He does mention at one point about marrying a foreign woman but mostly this is a "how to get laid" guy who is talking about sex tourists. In that respect I don't see how what he is saying applies to those of us who wanted a relationship with a foreign woman. Big difference between that and using "game" to get laid.

That being said getting laid is easy. Making a relationship work isn't so easy. He is obviously clueless about foreign women and is relying on stereotypes and cartoon characters to make his point. I will say he is correct when it comes to guys learning to connect with women and stop looking for an easy and quick way to "get laid".

[robert angel]

This guy is talking about getting laid. He does mention at one point about marrying a foreign woman but mostly this is a "how to get laid" guy who is talking about sex tourists. In that respect I don't see how what he is saying applies to those of us who wanted a relationship with a foreign woman. Big difference between that and using "game" to get laid.

That being said getting laid is easy. Making a relationship work isn't so easy. He is obviously clueless about foreign women and is relying on stereotypes and cartoon characters to make his point. I will say he is correct when it comes to guys learning to connect with women and stop looking for an easy and quick way to "get laid".

Good insight there.

[Researcher]

This guy is pretty lame to start with these two vids show him contradicting himself.   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJHc4JYdLA&list=UUbor7F226YsxmYfhj76L2UQ  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I5QD4yPwIo    He claims not to be a Pick Up Artist (his term is PUA) but in other places vids etc. he labels them as How and where to Pick Up girls.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8YciL8CmLg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6oKawbAgxU  I wouldn't put much weight in this little girls opinions, she/he is really into fashion....LOL.

Yeah, the "evil pick up trick" thing just shows this guy is just another tool with a YouTube channel.

[creeper1]

I confess that I am a fan of Wygant. (look at his other videos) He kicks people's ass and encourages you to approach women that you like. He tells you to clean up your apartment before you bring over a women. Much of what he says is spot on and common sense but has to be said.

Here for example is a video that is solid advice 

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q03F3S7BhU

[SkyNorth]

WOW...The above vid is about a 46 year old guy then, in 2008. babble about a college crush he had his senior year.  (his age as college senior 22 YO plus 24 years ago - if these dates and my math are correct) which puts him at 52 YO now and still making UTuber vids sounds a little juvenile to me.  If anyone needs help he does.
 
 
Gentlemen. If we need this guy to tell us to clean our places before guests come over (male or female) we have much larger issues than dating

[kai #2]

Ain't that the truth!!! Who gives a flying f about them?  Too many people need something to feed their negativity--someone or something they feel they can look down on. Actually they're the wretched, insecure ones.

It's something I noticed with people with boring lives. They don't have any real experience to share or talk about so they like to bring you down. I find the easiest and most effective way of getting back at some one like on facebook is to say ,'You must be real bored if you don't like this post on traveling' they generally shut up after that. Hell even my boss tried the whole ,'You're 31 and you have to go overseas to get a girl. Something is wrong with you". I told him having a g/f / wife doesn't determine my value as man. I like Hispanic women and I like traveling. I told him I was happy that I was able to afford to go oversees to meet women and see things people never get to in a lifetime. discussion ended at that point

[piglett]

It's something I noticed with people with boring lives. They don't have any real experience to share or talk about so they like to bring you down. I find the easiest and most effective way of getting back at some one like on facebook is to say ,'You must be real bored if you don't like this post on traveling' they generally shut up after that. Hell even my boss tried the whole ,'You're 31 and you have to go overseas to get a girl. Something is wrong with you". I told him having a g/f / wife doesn't determine my value as man. I like Hispanic women and I like traveling. I told him I was happy that I was able to afford to go oversees to meet women and see things people never get to in a lifetime. discussion ended at that point

some people don't/can't get it


forget them, they can have all the local  "me me me " type of chicks they wish


"i don't want a local woman" this isn't something everyone is able to understand


they figure "well that is just the way it is"


NO that is the way it is HERE!


it's not our fault that they have no b@lls or  brains




good luck


piglett

[robert angel]

Screw em all--the poor naysayers have no idea what they're missing. I'd probably be in such a bad mood more often, not look forward to coming home and just have a much lower quality of life if I was with the typical American woman. Totally different set of values involved.

[robert angel]

The naysayers are, as William Safire, the writer who among other things penned speeches for politicians and gave (made up) these words for the demented V.P. Spiro Agnew to say:

(They are) ->"nattering nabobs of negativism"